MaHuD 说:
No not at all, what I mean is that in Tavern of Terror, I think yes he was being vocal, but the attention was on me. A lot easier to be talking a lot when the attention is not towards you. Altough I do think I remember that he wasn't clear of any suspicion, there were still people suspecting him. But memory is no guarentee
Since I hosted the Tavern, I was lucky enough to see you and Ejnomad in your first games around here. Knowing your roles surely helped whilst reading you, but the overall gist of your posting styles is the same since then. Differences between good/evil roles are determined by details, not by being globally vocal.
But anyhow, this is pretty deep into meta-gaming territory and I think the whole issue can be reduced that you think of him less suspicious because he´s vocal under pressure, and I believe that it doesn´t mean anything because this is his natural (and only?) way of playing. My suspicions are not based on whether he´s agressive and vocal, but on the fact that he was repeatedly selective in his perceptions and conclusions. Yes, he plays definitely like he´s scum-hunting, but it´s those little things that make me think he´s playing false.
MaHuD 说:
Adaham, how would you explain that both "targets" can be related to both Nomad and Awdev?
There would be no reason to eat me during the night, as currently there are plenty of people suspicious of me, the only reason is Awdev and Nomad.
Magorian was immediately linked to have been eaten by Awdev by Nomad.
Eating you could have whatever reason. Maybe a wolf thought you were a special, maybe he thought you were just a dangerous player, and maybe it was after all Ejnomad that thought there was no better cover than killing the person that saved his ass the first day. AWdeV could have tried to revenge-eat you, but I think that would have been a pretty dumb move. And whilst you´re wondering that there was no reason to eat you during the night, you shouldn´t forget that (from what we can derive from the narration) somebody also deemed you important enough to protect you.
As to the whole Magorian-AWdeV theory, I guess you are referring to this:
Not really. Neither of us even voted for each other, and if there's any connection it's between AWdeV and Mag. Afterall, AWdeV was the last person to chew him out and swallow his foot over it. It is too bad I won't see Mag's post to that very post by AWdeV.
Now I read back a couple of pages, looking for whatever AWdeV´s interaction with Magorian was. In fact, it was very little, and actually the absent Magorian became a punching ball in the discussion between AWdeV and Ejnomad. Ejnomad accused AWdeV of "overinflating" his arguments against EJ, but in fact I believe the opposite is true. AWdeV has given his opinion early on in an excited manner, which is what the whole attack on him is based upon. Further on he made some mistakes about who voted who, but honestly...there were moments were I lost track of those things as well (Vote Counts once a day anybody?
).
If I take it all together, it´s quite a compilation. He thinks MaHuD was attacked to actually get a possibility to lynch Ejnomad himself. Magorian then, according to EJ, was eaten by AWdeV, based on a quite constructed idea. This nicely supports his case against the guy that was second in votes on day 1. Later in the same posts he also adresses his other favorite target, Noobscouter, where he dismantles Nod by saying his theories don´t make sense (which is globally true, btw) because the wolves want to get a lynch on Ejnomad. Last, but not least:
Votes are automatically taken off after each day so you don't need to unvote, and I've always suspected the wolves jumped on my bandwagon early. Hence my continued attacks the entire game.
Honestly, if I see this (and the big picture), I can understand why AWdeV got so drastic in his accusations. Basically what Nomad is saying is close to "who votes me is a wolf". If you think Ejnomad would be passive aggressive if in the spotlight as a wolf, I think you should rethink. I think he´s more into aggressive defense, taking the lead. This is the overall feeling I get from him. He´s very keen to stay in a dominant position.
Actually, I right now believe that Ejnomad attacked MaHuD. His whole story seems to be so perfectly laid out as to favor his case, that even though it didn´t work out for Ejnomad to silence MaHuD, he still tries to use the background story he made up.
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Facemelter 说:
Well, I plan on doing this as well, but what are you complaining about? I think you may have agreed to this before, but as Xardob and Ej believe: Day 1 is the best day to figure out what someone's role is. Is there something on Day 1 you don't want Kronic to see? It shouldn't be much of a problem, since these posts on Day 2 thus far have been fairly short and easy reads; if Kronic falls behind, I am sure he can get caught up.
Yo, don´t try to twist my intentions. Firstly, I never advocated not to go back and re-read. As you can see above, I do so myself. But there´s a difference between
just doing it, and
announcing it. While there´s basically nothing wrong with an announcement, it is often abused as a means of postponing (and sometimes not delivering at all). If somebody gets to a dead end and decides to read back, fine, go and announce it. But Kronic has barely delivered anything, even though he showed how capable he was of contributing when he had some votes on him for lurking.
I personally think that if there´s a considerably intense discussion in a room, and the guy that anyway doesn´t say much comes in between and says he´ll go back to his room and take a look at the notes from yesterday, then I think there´s something not quite kosher about that guy. You say "if Kronic falls behind", now tell me...are YOU satisfied with Kronics contributions so far? Why do you feel the need to protect him? My statement to him was not "oh please, don´t read back, otherwise you´ll find something I don´t want you to see", but "where you think you are going to? Stay here and speak up!".
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Top 3 suspects for the moment:
Ejnomad
Kronic
Facemelter
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