Xardob said:The good news is that if you believe all four known specials currently alive are innocent, the remaining innocents have a won game in their hands. So Soot, this is your time to shine.
I can believe that!
Xardob said:The good news is that if you believe all four known specials currently alive are innocent, the remaining innocents have a won game in their hands. So Soot, this is your time to shine.
Then find an innocent between Soot, Dago, Jock, Biggus Dickus and Eternal and we lynch the rest.Moose! said:Xardob said:The good news is that if you believe all four known specials currently alive are innocent, the remaining innocents have a won game in their hands. So Soot, this is your time to shine.
I can believe that!
I, for one, am not convinced of Rocco and Moose's innocence. I am quite sure the wolves also have someone with abilities, I just don't think they have phasers. Or maybe they do and you just pulled off a really bold move yesterday.Xardob said:Very well. Here's what I'm thinking about right now. We already have confirmed an Oracle, a Tracker, a One-Shot Vigilante and a Veteran confirmed. At least three of these roles are innocents, probably all four. It's likely we have a pair of Lovers as well. What do I make of that? We're ****ed. That's a lot of firepower on the innocent team, so it's likely the wolves have just as much.Moose! said:Maybe Janeway should act like a captain and give us some guidance?
Were this a standard WW game, I'd say the pack is Dago, Eternal and Jock or Biggus Dickus as the third, if you accept Moose and Rocco as innocent lovers.
But since the wolves probably have a couple of specials on their side, that opens the game a bit. I'm sure the wolves have either a roleblocker or someone immune to special actions. If you think Brutus role is restricted to kills, his role doesn't make sense as a wolf. He could still be a villain if you think that ability can nullify anything that targets him. Another possibility would be making one of the lovers a wolf. Even with all that, I still think there's one more ability the wolves may be hiding.
It feels weak and contrived, especially given that Biggus followed my post pretty much word for word right away.Moose! said:Do you know what was weird about Jock joining the band wagon? He said that he reluctantly agreed with me, but I don't really recall giving much reasoning for pushing a lynch against Archer.
This is an interesting thought. Are you suspecting everyone besides Rocco and yourself, Moose?Moose! said:Speaking of, I did think Caesar was quick to jump to Brutus' defense for no reason. No one has really convinced me that a wolf shouldn't have a kill avoid skill, and Soot's total lack of consideration for that roll makes little sense as well.
Notably, in a game of all specials, the Wolves would likely need specials in addition to their night kill, otherwise they would stand out when they don't have a special.
Brutus, Caesar, Sootus pack? Soot did seem especially reluctant to put the hammer down on Arch3r...
Well, I think Xardob's very accurately described the possibilities that we are currently working with, so let's see how that fits with my read of the game, and how it all looks by process of elimination:Xardob said:Very well. Here's what I'm thinking about right now. We already have confirmed an Oracle, a Tracker, a One-Shot Vigilante and a Veteran confirmed. At least three of these roles are innocents, probably all four. It's likely we have a pair of Lovers as well. What do I make of that? We're ****ed. That's a lot of firepower on the innocent team, so it's likely the wolves have just as much.Moose! said:Maybe Janeway should act like a captain and give us some guidance?
Were this a standard WW game, I'd say the pack is Dago, Eternal and Jock or Biggus Dickus as the third, if you accept Moose and Rocco as innocent lovers.
But since the wolves probably have a couple of specials on their side, that opens the game a bit. I'm sure the wolves have either a roleblocker or someone immune to special actions. If you think Brutus role is restricted to kills, his role doesn't make sense as a wolf. He could still be a villain if you think that ability can nullify anything that targets him. Another possibility would be making one of the lovers a wolf. Even with all that, I still think there's one more ability the wolves may be hiding.
The good news is that if you believe all four known specials currently alive are innocent, the remaining innocents have a won game in their hands. So Soot, this is your time to shine.
Moose! said:Boo Soot and archer, you both know nothing and one of you is probably a wolf. I’d bet archer.
Moose! said:Soot why don’t we compromise and lynch Brutus?
Roccoflipside said:Alright, I'll bite. Soot calls me out for wanting to wait to hear from the lurkers, Daho calls me out for not doing any hunting. I provide a basic los, and some ideas as to where the wolves might be, and yet I'm the wolf? My votes, other than my joke vote on jock, were for Marowit (which I screwed up), Xardob, and Doge, who have all been lurking, in an attempt to draw them into the game.
I said that I don't yet have a read on any of the vocal players besides moose, whom I still have as innocent, but I know y'all will give me more to go on in the later game than a lurker will. It's easier for a vocal wolf to get away if there's a bunch of lurkers in late game, or at least that's how I see it.
Other than me, which non-lurkers do you have a read on? If you answer none, than I'm going o have to move you (soot) up my list.
That's what he saidMoose! said:Honestly Biggis dickis seems like he could go both ways...
I think this post was probably left somewhat vague on purpose, but to me the most reasonable reading is that he designed the roles, both abilities and team, first and then randomly assigned them to players. Why?Adaham said:Just a quick info: contrary to all other speculations or meta-information you might be collecting, this game is indeed totally randomised with roles. I did, however, change most roles a wee bit around to add some flavor for everybody. I realized that those Star Trek characters in general would be great for a large and complicated game, where they could all be some form of specials. Here it's taken down quite a bit. At the heart, I still think this is a simple and small setup, but with some flavor abilities to make things work for you.
Hope you enjoy, and if there are questions, don't hesitate to ask!
Marowit said:Didn't adaham say he randomly generated allegiances?
you just come out with entirely reasonable reads all around?