SP Antiquity [WB] Shadows in the Desert - An Ancient Middle East Mod

[Sahran]

Sort of. Since you're the only one who was willing to guess, I'll spill the beans.

6th Faction is the Trojan League/Trojan Alliance. It'll be split 3 ways between the Trojans, their Thracian and Neo-Hittite allies. The former are modeled after the Greeks/Aegean circa 12th century to 7th century aesthetically, but primarily the Greek Dark Ages or Archaic Age militarily. By that I mean it's more like the warfare of Homer's time in being a mixture of cohesive, proto-hoplite warfare between phalanxes and the tribal/'barbarous' element of individual warfare. So you'll have hoplites but they'll wield boeotian (violin) or the 'upside down pelte' shields along with or instead of aspises, and they might be mixed in amongst more irregular footsoldiers along with archers/skirmishers/horsemen. The exact nature of the "hoplite to irregular" split, along with the fine details of all the Trojan League units are still up in the air. Thracians will be principally light foot with more plentiful horse, without any hoplites but with peltast types instead. Neo-Hittites aren't codified yet but they'll in general be "Oriental-Hellenes" and favor archery and more plentiful cavalry with limited heavy foot.

 

[Sayd Ûthman]

Nice Stuff ! this scythian bow seems to be accurate at my eyes. but why do you don't copy the frame of an existing bow (short bow for example)  so that the string will move.

 

[kuauik]

Nice Stuff ! this scythian bow seems to be accurate at my eyes. but why do you don't copy the frame of an existing bow (short bow for example)  so that the string will move.

hh thats very very simple...i forgot

 

[Zimke Zlovoljni]

That won't work, bows are vertex/frame animated, not rigged.

 

[FrisianDude]

I hope you're able to get it working properly though; it's a pretty bow. Maybe remove the bowstring entirely?

 

[Sayd Ûthman]

That won't work, bows are vertex/frame animated, not rigged.

i mean they should copy the frame.

 

[JankoMega]

Sort of. Since you're the only one who was willing to guess, I'll spill the beans.

6th Faction is the Trojan League/Trojan Alliance. It'll be split 3 ways between the Trojans, their Thracian and Neo-Hittite allies. The former are modeled after the Greeks/Aegean circa 12th century to 7th century aesthetically, but primarily the Greek Dark Ages or Archaic Age militarily. By that I mean it's more like the warfare of Homer's time in being a mixture of cohesive, proto-hoplite warfare between phalanxes and the tribal/'barbarous' element of individual warfare. So you'll have hoplites but they'll wield boeotian (violin) or the 'upside down pelte' shields along with or instead of aspises, and they might be mixed in amongst more irregular footsoldiers along with archers/skirmishers/horsemen. The exact nature of the "hoplite to irregular" split, along with the fine details of all the Trojan League units are still up in the air. Thracians will be principally light foot with more plentiful horse, without any hoplites but with peltast types instead. Neo-Hittites aren't codified yet but they'll in general be "Oriental-Hellenes" and favor archery and more plentiful cavalry with limited heavy foot.

Thanks for the answer and info as well...this is going to be so cool!
Good luck.

 

[FrisianDude]

Sahran you won't believe it but I genuinely thought about Troy when I read what you said with those pictures.

 

[Drusus]

Looks absolutely amazing.  Can't wait for first release

 

[Sahran]

Neo-Hittites & Thracians!

There might be a blend or mix between the distinct Neo-Hittite AOR & nobles and distinct Thracian roster and nobles, since apparently various "Thracians" (Paeonians and Cicones) may have had Phrygian origins. Probably the main difference is that Thracians will have better melee/javelin troops and Neo-Hittites better bow and cavalry.

The accounts I glanced up from the Illiad is that Phrygia was noted as a land of horses and horsemen, the Paeonians were of the curved bow (but also have spearmen attributed to them, and one of their leaders is famous for being ambidexterous and capable of throwing 2 javelins at once), and the Cicones of the spear.

 

[JankoMega]

Neo-Hittites & Thracians!

There might be a blend or mix between the distinct Neo-Hittite AOR & nobles and distinct Thracian roster and nobles, since apparently various "Thracians" (Paeonians and Cicones) may have had Phrygian origins. Probably the main difference is that Thracians will have better melee/javelin troops and Neo-Hittites better bow and cavalry.

The accounts I glanced up from the Illiad is that Phrygia was noted as a land of horses and horsemen, the Paeonians were of the curved bow (but also have spearmen attributed to them, and one of their leaders is famous for being ambidexterous and capable of throwing 2 javelins at once), and the Cicones of the spear.

AWESOME!!! 
Keep up great work.

 

[FrisianDude]

Nice jammies.

 

[El Perro Finlandese]

Wooo! Thraikoi!

 

[Demonwolf]

Will they have rhompaias?

 

[Kendoman]

Very exciting looking mod, unique and flavorful, not to mention sandy.

Cheers

 

[Sahran]

Will they have rhompaias?

I dunno. I don't think so since while we're going for a mythological war/legendry heroic angle the only thing Thracians are attributed to in the Illiad is horsemanship, spearmanship, archery, and light infantry. If they don't get Rhompaxes, they'd probably get machiaras/falcatas/bronze age or early iron age longswords so they can be nasty in melee over short sworded + spear troops. In the case of the former (Bronze age longswords) presumably made of iron, although I read an interesting site that claimed up to 700 BC bronze was still the superior metalurgy and Iron was only just coming out a nascent 'amateur hour' it'd held since its arrival.

 

[Sahran]

Aspis model and texture is credited to Lynores (Some of the helmets are also retextured, modified, or uv edited from his stuff. Not all of them, but we've got his thanks and permission. Just wanted to make sure to mention that and Llew2's base torsos or trouser models being edited and used in a lot of our stuff, so we give them proper credit).

Trojans and Neo-Hittites.

Persian or Neo-Hittite.

Pharoah!

Median, Persian, or Babylonian.

Nubians. Will be mercenaries and bandits, could consider making them AOR in the furthest south part of Egypt but I don't think so. They look really dark but that's due to the lighting of the screenshot.

 

[Sayd Ûthman]

Damned, those are very nice skirt. i was looking for something like that for my mod since no time...
At least egyptian guys 

 

[Al_Mansur]

The gate is awesome !

 

[kuauik]

The gate is awesome !

thanks Al,but if i know how to do vertex painting