Way to make not all factions hellbent on destroying me?

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rimlanin

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Well after about 250 in-game days of playing, I decided it was time for me to start my own Kingdom. I had sent all my companions out to get some Right to Rule and I had two fiefs (Swardia), so after I defeated a town, I demanded it and the King refused, I - in fact, fearing attack from all angles let him keep it, so at least Swardia would not chase me down to every ditch, mousehole and mountain in the world. I was wrong, very wrong. As soon as I got a few castles from the Sarranid (Who were at war with Swardia at the time), everyone started hating me, exept for the Swardians.

Problem was, as soon as I got a town from the Sarranids, somehow Swardians decided I am a rebel who deserves death and decleared war on me. Great. So now I am at war with everybody and surrounded by enemies on all sides. After I got frustrated of all the marshall attacks (Significant groups of enemies), I do admit, I used cheat mode to give myself a pretty generous amount of money and I used the tweak guide to make party limits 1000 men and make cattle follow me.

Castle after castle, town after town, the Sarranids fell. I then saw a popup screen that was probably my dream "The Sarranid Sultane has been defeated!" and to top it all off, I have Sultan Hakim safe inside my prison towered town. But everybody kept sending marshalls to attack me.

It was interesting trying to defend myself at furst, but then it just got VERY repetetive. I walk around to the other end of the desert, do a grindish 1000 men battle, win after half an hour and repeat.

I kept sending diplomats with persuassion skill, but nobody EVER accepted. One of my vassals was captured by the Khanate and now I am just racing around to the new 1000 men battle.

The game is NOT letting me take a break and just do some quests for my towns, hold some feasts, maybe attack the Khanate, Its just rush, rush, rush to the next defensive possision.

All my villages are constantly burning, some town is constantly under seige and even though I captured King Halarus himself, Swardians would not give me peace. Nobody will give me peace. This has been going on for 200 in-game days and its getting really boring.

So my question is, is there a cheat, modification, ANYTHING that could make at least a few factions at peace with me. I can handle one war effort as it keeps the game interesting, but I do not want to just rush defending town to town from 1000 men marshall attacks.

Oh and by the way, a unrelated rant: Who's idea was it to put only one ladder on seige maps? I have to literraly run around in a circle for 15 minutes because my guys would not let me get anywhere near the top of the ladder.
 
In general, taking fiefs that used to belong to multiple different factions while setting up your kingdom is a bad idea. Those factions are going to want those fiefs back. So, Swadia and Sarranids attacking you seems pretty understandable. Others will join in because they see an easy target. They think "small faction, already at war? Easy meat". This makes starting location and expansion strategy quite important...

But, to answer your more general question about a modification/cheat...I personally can't think of any that do as you ask. I don't believe turning on the cheatmenu will give you any new dialogue options to force peace. But I may be mistaken.
 
Sounds a lot like you overstretched. Try to get some vassals on your side, and do not try to bite off more than you can swallow.

No, there is no way to make the other kingdoms not hate you. Best you can get is them to respect you, if you pose sufficient a threat (in sensible, not "gamey" terms).

Lastly, I would like to point out that from the moment you'll have a stable and defended kingdom, the game will basically be over (as conquering the rest will be much easier that what you had to do until then). This hellish part is all that separates you from losing the main interest in the game. Do you really want to get rid of it?
 
It's true. As soon as I had my own stable kingdom in the north-east, the game became much less interesting for me. Don't rush to reach that point too quickly.
 
Caba`drin said:
In general, taking fiefs that used to belong to multiple different factions while setting up your kingdom is a bad idea. Those factions are going to want those fiefs back. So, Swadia and Sarranids attacking you seems pretty understandable. Others will join in because they see an easy target. They think "small faction, already at war? Easy meat". This makes starting location and expansion strategy quite important...

But, to answer your more general question about a modification/cheat...I personally can't think of any that do as you ask. I don't believe turning on the cheatmenu will give you any new dialogue options to force peace. But I may be mistaken.

I gave Swardia have all my Swardian castles and towns, villages automatically follow them and I attacked the Sarranids only, which were at war with the Swardians (I tried thinking it trough as keeping Swardia as my allies), yet they still hate me.
 
Promote noble companion as vassal, having 1k-2k troop in garrison, wait till your faction have 3 way war before declaring rebel. Looks like you are rushing to make your kingdom.
 
Caba`drin said:
Others will join in because they see an easy target. They think "small faction, already at war? Easy meat". This makes starting location and expansion strategy quite important...

Once I started a game with all the Sarranid cities save the capital and one castle assigned to Rhodoks. Rhodoks invaded the capital while the other realms ganged against Rhodoks. Aftere 3 years Nord were the most powerful faction, so Rhodoks weren't anymore a danger. And still in 10 years of game nobody declared war on the weak Sarranids and all factions were still alive. So they gang against weak target only if they are "player controlled"....however I noticed that they declare wars against war winners not only when they want their land back, but sometimes because they know that newly conquest lands = cities and castles with poor garrison.
 
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE USE BIG TEXT IN FORUMS AND I REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE!

Oh, and download Diplomacy. Seriously, it's wonderful.
 
Well problem is solved. I made a big enough force, killed about 2-3 marshall attacks and suddenly everybody but the Rhodoks wanted peace. Can't attack them, though, or I will have a town surrounded by both Rhodoks and Swardians, which is not going to last very long.
 
This is all becasue of low right to rule,you need higher right to rule to prevent people from declaring war on you.
 
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