Wargame: Red Dragon
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Paronomasia12
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Linked Steam now correct if anyone wants me. Just play nice.
Do people here prefer using tube or rocket artillery? My Czecho-Polish deck uses both countries RM-70s, and I like TOG-1s.
Do people here prefer using tube or rocket artillery? My Czecho-Polish deck uses both countries RM-70s, and I like TOG-1s.
Patch is out. Increased accuracy for low-tier tanks with bad range and for low-tier tanks, glorious autocannon of deisgn 2A42 gets justice and finally enjoys the same range as capitalist minicannons (well, only on high-end BMPs, but progress is progress). MG3 got slight nerf. Vikhrs questionably buffed - increase in killing power, decrease in range.
And autocannon recon should be easier to detect when firing. So less ninja Bradleys and BRDM-3s. Hopefully.
Rocket arty is very supplies-heavy.
And autocannon recon should be easier to detect when firing. So less ninja Bradleys and BRDM-3s. Hopefully.
Well, it depends on what you use the arty for. Tube arty (high-end 155mm: Ondava, Archer, Caesar...) is the best at actually killing targets (promoting playstyle of heavy recon finding high-value target to destroy with them), lower tier tube arty (the one with 30s aiming time) is not good at all, 122mm tube arty is just waste of points, HE rocket arty ( for example Czech RM-70) is good at assaulting cities as it lowers morale of troops there, but hardly ever kills someone. Cluster rocket arty (for example Polish RM-70) is for sniping CVs and shooting into forests where enemy prepares. Monstrous MLRS (Smerch) are good for those who pray to RNGesus and ATACMs is for insecure, bullied and unsuccesful people who cannot find a girlfriend. 120mm mortars are very very good at everything, but cannot kill anything with more than 1 Armor value. Burrito is good because it nearly insta-stun.Angelsachsen said:
Rocket arty is very supplies-heavy.
Releasing a rebalancing patch for their old game before fixing the crippling issues with their aborted C&C rehash. Stay classy, Eugen.
Beny said:
Not even me. I'm just saying it's kind of cruel to ditch that game so soon after its release, not really promising for future developments.
BloodLuster
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What's new in Red Dragon?
I have both European Escalation and AirLand Battle is it worth the price tag?
I have both European Escalation and AirLand Battle is it worth the price tag?
The price tag is pretty reasonable when on sale.
In my opinion yes. The main addition is China, Japan, ANZACs, **** Korea and Best Korea to the game. Then you've got the maps which offer quite a nice change of scenery, but also have a lot more depth than ALB maps. This is due to better use of hills and the addition of amphibious units.
The "big" selling point when it came out was the Naval aspect, however since the scale isn't really appropriate for naval engagements it doesn't feel very well done. And in an otherwise very authentic feeling game, it feels a bit out of place.
But if you don't expect much from naval combat (Naval landing however are great fun when done well), it is worth it I would say. If not, pick it up for a tenner when it comes on sale again.
EDIT: oh and if you like SP, the campaigns are much better this time around.
In my opinion yes. The main addition is China, Japan, ANZACs, **** Korea and Best Korea to the game. Then you've got the maps which offer quite a nice change of scenery, but also have a lot more depth than ALB maps. This is due to better use of hills and the addition of amphibious units.
The "big" selling point when it came out was the Naval aspect, however since the scale isn't really appropriate for naval engagements it doesn't feel very well done. And in an otherwise very authentic feeling game, it feels a bit out of place.
But if you don't expect much from naval combat (Naval landing however are great fun when done well), it is worth it I would say. If not, pick it up for a tenner when it comes on sale again.
EDIT: oh and if you like SP, the campaigns are much better this time around.
I hope that Eugen makes up their minds about what they want plane-dropped cluster munitions to do in Wargame 4. Because bombing a town with microexplosives should really do more than reduce an infantry unit's morale by a point.
I never liked how cluster bombs worked in Wargame. Good against light armor - oh boy, as if most things weren't - but they won't reliably do **** to anything else. I can see why they wouldn't want them to gib infantry, because infantry doesn't need another plane counter, but they should inflict casualties on them in the open.
I have discovered the world of cheap T-72s (T-72M/T-72A to be precise). Granted, you dont have 2275m range, stabilisers and that much armor or rate of fire, but you have 4HE on a 55pts tank that can go 60kmh and can survive at least some punishment. And when they kill one, you can immediately buy another.
They are a paid DLC. But considering how much of support RD was receiving for free and given how much AoA was a flop, it is imho okay from Eugen.
Anyway, as to what interesting things the Netherlands have:
Upgraded M109 (aka the old-ass howitzer) that is on par with other high-end arty of the game (Ondava, Caesar, AS90)
Korps Mariner 90 - Special forces who - unless I am mistaken - have the greatest anti-infantry DPS in the game, apart from flamethrowers, grenade and Spetznaz-like units
Vuurploeg 95 - Fist team (akin to that ERYX team or SMAW team) that has Dragon 2 and thus, supposedly, 2HE attack with 1925m range
M752 Lance - tactical missile (omgwtf). Pinpoint accuracy 45000m-ranged 20HE (ie. 1000kg bomb). ThanksObama ATACMS, can we have S-300 now?
Leopard 2A5NL - W. German superheavy
Leopard 1-V - some weird downgraded Leo 1A5 (aka the best tank in the game).
Leopard 1-V Verkenning - the above, but reconaissance version. By stats it seems like the most OP weapon in NL arsenal. Very good optics, 65pts, Leo 1A5 with 2 less FAV. ZTQ-62G with better cannon.
UH-64A TD - Apache with double the Hellfires but without rocket pods
UH-64 Escort - Rocket pods-only Apache for 65 pts.
F-84F - another. goddamn. zuni. suicide. plane
Some AMRAAMS, no 90 line infantry (Poland and Czechoslovakia are NL buddies are now), poor recon infantry, Gepards, bad IFVs (15pts basically-BMP-2-without-Konkurs but with 1750 range), bad supply truck.
Anyway, as to what interesting things the Netherlands have:
Upgraded M109 (aka the old-ass howitzer) that is on par with other high-end arty of the game (Ondava, Caesar, AS90)
Korps Mariner 90 - Special forces who - unless I am mistaken - have the greatest anti-infantry DPS in the game, apart from flamethrowers, grenade and Spetznaz-like units
Vuurploeg 95 - Fist team (akin to that ERYX team or SMAW team) that has Dragon 2 and thus, supposedly, 2HE attack with 1925m range
M752 Lance - tactical missile (omgwtf). Pinpoint accuracy 45000m-ranged 20HE (ie. 1000kg bomb). Thanks
Leopard 2A5NL - W. German superheavy
Leopard 1-V - some weird downgraded Leo 1A5 (aka the best tank in the game).
Leopard 1-V Verkenning - the above, but reconaissance version. By stats it seems like the most OP weapon in NL arsenal. Very good optics, 65pts, Leo 1A5 with 2 less FAV. ZTQ-62G with better cannon.
UH-64A TD - Apache with double the Hellfires but without rocket pods
UH-64 Escort - Rocket pods-only Apache for 65 pts.
F-84F - another. goddamn. zuni. suicide. plane
Some AMRAAMS, no 90 line infantry (Poland and Czechoslovakia are NL buddies are now), poor recon infantry, Gepards, bad IFVs (15pts basically-BMP-2-without-Konkurs but with 1750 range), bad supply truck.
No new units, only balance changes. Also, Muh Yak-B 
GENERIC:
- Mixed decks activation points reduced from 50 to 45.
- Supply refill rate incresed from 30/sec to 50/sec (rearm/refuel/repair rate unchanged).
- AA units based on IFV chassis added to motorized deck : AMX-13 Oeil noir, VTT-323 Igla, Pongae 3, MT-LB Strzala 10M, Chaparral A3, - Strop 1, Sopel.
- Gun noise increased to prevent armed recon from firing at other recons without being detected.
- APC & IFV with only 3 missiles now have 4 missiles (Fuchs Milan, BMP-2 ...).
- Supply trucks carrying 1700 supply now carry 50 extra supply.
- Supply helicopters price reduced : 120$ to 110$, 85$ to 75$, 65$ to 55$, 45$ to 35$, 30$ to 25$.
- Ground & helicopter-based ATGM resupply cost reduced by 20% with the exception of the ADATS which already was cheaper compared with the rest.
- Multirole aircraft veterancy increased by one step.
- Mig-25BM, JH-7A Feibao & Tornado ECR now fire their SEAD missiles one by one to avoid wasting ammo.
- Mig-31 & F-14 detection range against planes greatly increased, they will now act as long range detectors
- Commonwealth coalition bonus increased to +10% availability.
- Eryx HE suppression reduction missing from last patch fixed(invisible change, the armory only feedbacks the values of the AP)
- Eryx users (Eryx, Hightlanders '90, Legion '90, FSK) prototyped & service date set to 1993 to match the weapon production date.
- MG3 nerf from last patch reverted.
- Petard Gun of the AVRE & CEV range reduced to 1050m, accuracy increased to 70%, aim time reduced from 4 to 1sec.
- 150mm guns on tanks HE power increased to 5 (starphip, sheridan, MBT70).
- HOT 2 missiles accuracy incresed from 55%/45% to 65%/50%.
- HOT 1 missile accuracy increased from 40%/30% to 50%/35%.
- Milan 1 missile accuracy increased from 35% to 40%.
- Milan 2 missile accuracy increased from 40% to 45%.
- 24A2 autocannon from early BMP2 accuracy increased from 20%/5% to 25%/10%
- 24A2 autocannon from late BMP2 accuracy increased from 25%/10% to 30%/20%
- Polish & Czech Mi-8T autonomy unified with other Mi-8T from 400 to 550km
- Yak-B gun now fire in bursts, reducing it's global RoF.
- MBTs availabilities set to match the new prices (see individual nations).
- Planes fuel capacity set to represent better their real life capability (loadout included) and loiter time set acordingly.
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WEST-GERMANY:
- CH-53 (sea stalion) was confused with the CH-53E super stallion, it now has price/availability/cargo similar to Mi-8.
- Marder 2 50mm autocannon HE value increased from 1 to 1.5.
- Jager price increased from 10$ to 15$.
- Leopard 1A5 price increased from 60$ to 65$.
- Leopard 2A1 price reduced from 105$ to 100$.
- Leopard 2A4 price reduced from 135$ to 130$.
- Jaguar 1 45 to 40
- Jaguar 1 availability reduced from 12 to 10
- Jaguar 2 price reduced from 55 to 45
- Jaguar 2 optics increased from poor to medium
NORWAY:
- Gevaermenn '90 price increased from 10 to 15$, availability increased by one step
- FSK price increase from 30$ to 35$
- NM113 RAKPV price reduced from 35 to 25
- NM142 price reduced from 70 to 55
- F-5A Puff veterancy reduced by one step
- F-104G price reduced from 80$ to 60$
- F-16AM price reduced from 160$ to 150$
JAPAN:
- Short Arrow model and sound fixed, the missiles used to be displayed in the wrong place.
- Kyu-Roku WAPC is now available to Kütei '90 and JSDF Rangers.
- Kyu Marun Shiki prototyped and AP increased from 22 to 23 to represent the use of a more modern amunition, service date moved to 1993.
- F-104J Ryu vulcan replaced with the low accurate early version of the gun
- F-15J price reduced from 150$ to 145$
DENMARK:
- M41 DK1 price increased from 20$ to 25$
- M/113A1 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
- M/113A1 TOW-2 price reduced from 70 to 55
USA:
- CH-53 renamed CH-53E Super Stallion, service date changed to 1981
- M728 CEV price reduced from 45$ to 35$
- M2 Bradley series availability increased by one step
- M3A2 Bradley availability reduced from 6 to 4 per pack.
- M551 ACAV price incresaed from 25$ to 30$.
- V-150 20mm ammo loadout increased from 120 to 390 rounds.
- Super M60 price reduced from 65$ to 60$
- M1A1 Abrams price reduced from 120$ to 115$
- M1A1 HA price reduced from 145$ to 140$
- M1A1 HC price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- M150 price reduced from 35 to 25
- M901 ITV price reduced from 55 to 40
- M901 ITV availability increased from 8 to 10
- M901A1 ITV price reduced from 75 to 60
- LAV-AT price reduced from 45 to 40
- LAV-AT availability increased from 8 to 10
- Tomcat in the AIR tab split into 2 cards of 1 plane at trained level
- F-111E loadout changed from 12x Mk82 to 12x MM117, price increased from 110$ to 130$
CANADA:
- Centurion Marksman removed from motorized decks.
- Leopard C2 MEXAS price increased from 75$ to 80$
- LAV TUA price reduced from 75 to 60
- M113 TUA price reduced from 70 to 55
- M150 I-TOW price reduced from 45 to 35
- M150 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
UK:
- Fixing of a salvo bug that lowered Rarden's Autocannon RoF more than expected when stressed.
- Centurion AVRE peice reduced from 40$ to 30$.
- Chieftain Mk.11 optics increased to normal.
- Chieftain Mk.11 price reduced from 85$ to 80$
- Challenger Mk.1 price reduced from 115$ to 105$
- Challenger Mk.2 price reduced from 125$ to 120$
- Challenger Mk.3 price reduced from 150$ to 145$
- Challenger 2 base availability set to 3
- FV102 Striker price reduced from 45 to 40
- FV102 Striker availability increased from 8 to 10
- Tornado F.2 price increased from 110$ to 115$
SWEDEN:
- AMOS autorized in mototrized decks.
- Kustjägare price reduced from 40$ to 35$ and removed from mechanized decks.
- Strv 121 price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- PVRBV 551 price reduced from 45 to 30
- PVRBV 551 availability increased from 12 to 14
- PVPTJGB 1111 availability increased from 10 to 12
- SK-60B missile changed from F&F to Semi active guidance, accuracy set to 50%
- J 35J Draken price reduced from 80$ to 75$
- JA 37 Viggen price reduced from 110$ to 105$
- JAS 39 Gripen price reduced from 160$ to 150$
FRANCE:
- AML 60/20 Serval price reduced from 30$ to 25$.
- Commando Marine price reduced from 40$ to 35$.
- AMX/HOT price reduced from 45 to 40
- AMX/HOT availability increased from 8 to 10
- VAB Mephisto availability increased from 8 to 10
- AMX-10P Milan price reduced from 30 to 25
- AMX-10P Milan availability increased from 12 to 16
- Mirage F1C-200 price rduced from 105$ to 100$
S-KOREA:
- K1 price increased from 85$ to 90$
- KM1131A1 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
- KM1131A1 I-TOW price reduced from 45 to 35
- F-4D Peace Pheasant I loadout increased from 18xMk82 to 25xMk82
ANZAC:
- ASLAV-25 TOW-2 price reduced from 55 to 45
- ASLAV-25 TOW-2 availability increased from 6 to 8
- F-111C loadout reduced from 8xMk84 to 4xMk-84, ECM increased from 10% to 30%, price reduced from 160$ to 140$
- F-111C is now reserved as a national/coalition asset with a single card of 2 planes.
- Mirage IIIO(F) price reduced from 80$ to 70$
- ANZAC F-4E Phantom price reduced from 100$ to 90$
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USSR:
- UAZ 469 KPVT price reduced from 15$ to 10$ like the other versions
- PT-85 & PT-90 RoF fixed from 12RPM to 8 RPM and autoloader removed
- PT-90 accuracy increased from 35%/10% to 50%/20%
- T-64BM price increased from 90$ to 100$
- T-64BV1 price reduced from 120$ to 110$
- T-64BV price reduced from 130$ to 120$
- T-72B price reduced from 95$ to 90$
- T-72B Obr 1987 price reduced from 125$ to 110$
- T-72B Obr 1989 price reduced from 150$ to 135$
- T-72BU price reduced from 180$ to 175$
- T-80B price reduced from 80$ to 75$
- T-80A price reduced from 110$ to 105$
- T-80BV price reduced from 120$ to 110$
- T-80U price reduced from 155$ to 150$
- T-80UM price reduced from 170$ to 165$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M price reduced from 50 to 45
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M availability increased from 6 to 8
- Shturm-S availability increased from 6 to 8
- Su-27S price increased from 150$ to 155$
CSSR:
- S-24 rocket on the Mi-25 aim time reduced from 1sec to 0.6sec.
- T-72M2 Moderna price reduced from 165$ to 155$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M price reduced from 50 to 45
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M availability increased from 6 to 8
E-GERMANY:
- Mot-Schützen '90 prototyped.
- Fasta-4 missile changed for Igla-1 as DDR never used Strela-3's. Service date changed to 1988, price increased from 30$ to 35$.
- Reserveschützen soldiers per squad increased from 10 to 15.
- SPW-40P2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- SPW-40P2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- SPW-40P2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- SPW-40P2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- Mig-21Bis Lazur price reduced from 85$ to 80$
- T-72S price reduced from 135$ to 125$
- T-72S1 price reduced from 130$ to 120$
POLAND:
- T-72M1 Wilk price reduced from 125$ to 120$
- PT-91 Twardy price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- Mig-27 gun efficiency halved
CHINA:
- ZSD-90 side armor increased from 1 to 2
- ZZC-56 single KPVT changed for a ZPTU-2 as displayed on the model
- WZ-550 HJ-9 missile speed increased to the level of the other laser guided missiles
- HJ-8A missiles acuracy increased from 40% to 50%
- Z-9A HJ-8B missile accuracy incresed from 50%/40% to 60%/45%
- Su-100 price reduced from 20$ to 15$
- Lu Zhandui '90 rocket loadout increased from 9 to 12
- ZTZ-85-III price reduced from 145$ to 140$
- WZ-550 availability increased from 3 to 4
- BRDM-1 HJ-73 availability increased from 16 to 20
- JH-7A Feibao price reduced from 160$ to 150$
- J-8IIB & J-8C gun range vs planes increased to 2800m
N-KOREA:
- Hwasung Chong's strela's accuracy increased from 30% to 40% by consistency with other strela
- Type 63 price increased from 20$ to 25$
- Type 63 accuracy reduced from 50% to 40% & ability to fire on the move removed as the vehicule had no stabilizer.
- Su-100 price reduced from 20$ to 15$
- Bochungsu now have access to BTR-50PK and ZSD-531A
- VTT-323 Igla price reduced from 45$ to 40$
- T-90S price reduced from 175$ to 170$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- Type 85 Susong-Po price reduced from 25 to 20
- Type 85 Susong-Po availability increased from 12 to 20
- Mixed decks activation points reduced from 50 to 45.
- Supply refill rate incresed from 30/sec to 50/sec (rearm/refuel/repair rate unchanged).
- AA units based on IFV chassis added to motorized deck : AMX-13 Oeil noir, VTT-323 Igla, Pongae 3, MT-LB Strzala 10M, Chaparral A3, - Strop 1, Sopel.
- Gun noise increased to prevent armed recon from firing at other recons without being detected.
- APC & IFV with only 3 missiles now have 4 missiles (Fuchs Milan, BMP-2 ...).
- Supply trucks carrying 1700 supply now carry 50 extra supply.
- Supply helicopters price reduced : 120$ to 110$, 85$ to 75$, 65$ to 55$, 45$ to 35$, 30$ to 25$.
- Ground & helicopter-based ATGM resupply cost reduced by 20% with the exception of the ADATS which already was cheaper compared with the rest.
- Multirole aircraft veterancy increased by one step.
- Mig-25BM, JH-7A Feibao & Tornado ECR now fire their SEAD missiles one by one to avoid wasting ammo.
- Mig-31 & F-14 detection range against planes greatly increased, they will now act as long range detectors
- Commonwealth coalition bonus increased to +10% availability.
- Eryx HE suppression reduction missing from last patch fixed(invisible change, the armory only feedbacks the values of the AP)
- Eryx users (Eryx, Hightlanders '90, Legion '90, FSK) prototyped & service date set to 1993 to match the weapon production date.
- MG3 nerf from last patch reverted.
- Petard Gun of the AVRE & CEV range reduced to 1050m, accuracy increased to 70%, aim time reduced from 4 to 1sec.
- 150mm guns on tanks HE power increased to 5 (starphip, sheridan, MBT70).
- HOT 2 missiles accuracy incresed from 55%/45% to 65%/50%.
- HOT 1 missile accuracy increased from 40%/30% to 50%/35%.
- Milan 1 missile accuracy increased from 35% to 40%.
- Milan 2 missile accuracy increased from 40% to 45%.
- 24A2 autocannon from early BMP2 accuracy increased from 20%/5% to 25%/10%
- 24A2 autocannon from late BMP2 accuracy increased from 25%/10% to 30%/20%
- Polish & Czech Mi-8T autonomy unified with other Mi-8T from 400 to 550km
- Yak-B gun now fire in bursts, reducing it's global RoF.
- MBTs availabilities set to match the new prices (see individual nations).
- Planes fuel capacity set to represent better their real life capability (loadout included) and loiter time set acordingly.
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WEST-GERMANY:
- CH-53 (sea stalion) was confused with the CH-53E super stallion, it now has price/availability/cargo similar to Mi-8.
- Marder 2 50mm autocannon HE value increased from 1 to 1.5.
- Jager price increased from 10$ to 15$.
- Leopard 1A5 price increased from 60$ to 65$.
- Leopard 2A1 price reduced from 105$ to 100$.
- Leopard 2A4 price reduced from 135$ to 130$.
- Jaguar 1 45 to 40
- Jaguar 1 availability reduced from 12 to 10
- Jaguar 2 price reduced from 55 to 45
- Jaguar 2 optics increased from poor to medium
NORWAY:
- Gevaermenn '90 price increased from 10 to 15$, availability increased by one step
- FSK price increase from 30$ to 35$
- NM113 RAKPV price reduced from 35 to 25
- NM142 price reduced from 70 to 55
- F-5A Puff veterancy reduced by one step
- F-104G price reduced from 80$ to 60$
- F-16AM price reduced from 160$ to 150$
JAPAN:
- Short Arrow model and sound fixed, the missiles used to be displayed in the wrong place.
- Kyu-Roku WAPC is now available to Kütei '90 and JSDF Rangers.
- Kyu Marun Shiki prototyped and AP increased from 22 to 23 to represent the use of a more modern amunition, service date moved to 1993.
- F-104J Ryu vulcan replaced with the low accurate early version of the gun
- F-15J price reduced from 150$ to 145$
DENMARK:
- M41 DK1 price increased from 20$ to 25$
- M/113A1 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
- M/113A1 TOW-2 price reduced from 70 to 55
USA:
- CH-53 renamed CH-53E Super Stallion, service date changed to 1981
- M728 CEV price reduced from 45$ to 35$
- M2 Bradley series availability increased by one step
- M3A2 Bradley availability reduced from 6 to 4 per pack.
- M551 ACAV price incresaed from 25$ to 30$.
- V-150 20mm ammo loadout increased from 120 to 390 rounds.
- Super M60 price reduced from 65$ to 60$
- M1A1 Abrams price reduced from 120$ to 115$
- M1A1 HA price reduced from 145$ to 140$
- M1A1 HC price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- M150 price reduced from 35 to 25
- M901 ITV price reduced from 55 to 40
- M901 ITV availability increased from 8 to 10
- M901A1 ITV price reduced from 75 to 60
- LAV-AT price reduced from 45 to 40
- LAV-AT availability increased from 8 to 10
- Tomcat in the AIR tab split into 2 cards of 1 plane at trained level
- F-111E loadout changed from 12x Mk82 to 12x MM117, price increased from 110$ to 130$
CANADA:
- Centurion Marksman removed from motorized decks.
- Leopard C2 MEXAS price increased from 75$ to 80$
- LAV TUA price reduced from 75 to 60
- M113 TUA price reduced from 70 to 55
- M150 I-TOW price reduced from 45 to 35
- M150 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
UK:
- Fixing of a salvo bug that lowered Rarden's Autocannon RoF more than expected when stressed.
- Centurion AVRE peice reduced from 40$ to 30$.
- Chieftain Mk.11 optics increased to normal.
- Chieftain Mk.11 price reduced from 85$ to 80$
- Challenger Mk.1 price reduced from 115$ to 105$
- Challenger Mk.2 price reduced from 125$ to 120$
- Challenger Mk.3 price reduced from 150$ to 145$
- Challenger 2 base availability set to 3
- FV102 Striker price reduced from 45 to 40
- FV102 Striker availability increased from 8 to 10
- Tornado F.2 price increased from 110$ to 115$
SWEDEN:
- AMOS autorized in mototrized decks.
- Kustjägare price reduced from 40$ to 35$ and removed from mechanized decks.
- Strv 121 price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- PVRBV 551 price reduced from 45 to 30
- PVRBV 551 availability increased from 12 to 14
- PVPTJGB 1111 availability increased from 10 to 12
- SK-60B missile changed from F&F to Semi active guidance, accuracy set to 50%
- J 35J Draken price reduced from 80$ to 75$
- JA 37 Viggen price reduced from 110$ to 105$
- JAS 39 Gripen price reduced from 160$ to 150$
FRANCE:
- AML 60/20 Serval price reduced from 30$ to 25$.
- Commando Marine price reduced from 40$ to 35$.
- AMX/HOT price reduced from 45 to 40
- AMX/HOT availability increased from 8 to 10
- VAB Mephisto availability increased from 8 to 10
- AMX-10P Milan price reduced from 30 to 25
- AMX-10P Milan availability increased from 12 to 16
- Mirage F1C-200 price rduced from 105$ to 100$
S-KOREA:
- K1 price increased from 85$ to 90$
- KM1131A1 TOW price reduced from 35 to 25
- KM1131A1 I-TOW price reduced from 45 to 35
- F-4D Peace Pheasant I loadout increased from 18xMk82 to 25xMk82
ANZAC:
- ASLAV-25 TOW-2 price reduced from 55 to 45
- ASLAV-25 TOW-2 availability increased from 6 to 8
- F-111C loadout reduced from 8xMk84 to 4xMk-84, ECM increased from 10% to 30%, price reduced from 160$ to 140$
- F-111C is now reserved as a national/coalition asset with a single card of 2 planes.
- Mirage IIIO(F) price reduced from 80$ to 70$
- ANZAC F-4E Phantom price reduced from 100$ to 90$
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USSR:
- UAZ 469 KPVT price reduced from 15$ to 10$ like the other versions
- PT-85 & PT-90 RoF fixed from 12RPM to 8 RPM and autoloader removed
- PT-90 accuracy increased from 35%/10% to 50%/20%
- T-64BM price increased from 90$ to 100$
- T-64BV1 price reduced from 120$ to 110$
- T-64BV price reduced from 130$ to 120$
- T-72B price reduced from 95$ to 90$
- T-72B Obr 1987 price reduced from 125$ to 110$
- T-72B Obr 1989 price reduced from 150$ to 135$
- T-72BU price reduced from 180$ to 175$
- T-80B price reduced from 80$ to 75$
- T-80A price reduced from 110$ to 105$
- T-80BV price reduced from 120$ to 110$
- T-80U price reduced from 155$ to 150$
- T-80UM price reduced from 170$ to 165$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M price reduced from 50 to 45
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M availability increased from 6 to 8
- Shturm-S availability increased from 6 to 8
- Su-27S price increased from 150$ to 155$
CSSR:
- S-24 rocket on the Mi-25 aim time reduced from 1sec to 0.6sec.
- T-72M2 Moderna price reduced from 165$ to 155$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M price reduced from 50 to 45
- BRDM-2 Konkurs-M availability increased from 6 to 8
E-GERMANY:
- Mot-Schützen '90 prototyped.
- Fasta-4 missile changed for Igla-1 as DDR never used Strela-3's. Service date changed to 1988, price increased from 30$ to 35$.
- Reserveschützen soldiers per squad increased from 10 to 15.
- SPW-40P2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- SPW-40P2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- SPW-40P2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- SPW-40P2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- Mig-21Bis Lazur price reduced from 85$ to 80$
- T-72S price reduced from 135$ to 125$
- T-72S1 price reduced from 130$ to 120$
POLAND:
- T-72M1 Wilk price reduced from 125$ to 120$
- PT-91 Twardy price reduced from 160$ to 155$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- BRDM-2 Konkurs price reduced from 40 to 35
- BRDM-2 Konkurs availability increased from 8 to 12
- Mig-27 gun efficiency halved
CHINA:
- ZSD-90 side armor increased from 1 to 2
- ZZC-56 single KPVT changed for a ZPTU-2 as displayed on the model
- WZ-550 HJ-9 missile speed increased to the level of the other laser guided missiles
- HJ-8A missiles acuracy increased from 40% to 50%
- Z-9A HJ-8B missile accuracy incresed from 50%/40% to 60%/45%
- Su-100 price reduced from 20$ to 15$
- Lu Zhandui '90 rocket loadout increased from 9 to 12
- ZTZ-85-III price reduced from 145$ to 140$
- WZ-550 availability increased from 3 to 4
- BRDM-1 HJ-73 availability increased from 16 to 20
- JH-7A Feibao price reduced from 160$ to 150$
- J-8IIB & J-8C gun range vs planes increased to 2800m
N-KOREA:
- Hwasung Chong's strela's accuracy increased from 30% to 40% by consistency with other strela
- Type 63 price increased from 20$ to 25$
- Type 63 accuracy reduced from 50% to 40% & ability to fire on the move removed as the vehicule had no stabilizer.
- Su-100 price reduced from 20$ to 15$
- Bochungsu now have access to BTR-50PK and ZSD-531A
- VTT-323 Igla price reduced from 45$ to 40$
- T-90S price reduced from 175$ to 170$
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P price reduced from 30 to 20
- BRDM-2 Malyutka-P availability increased from 12 to 20
- Type 85 Susong-Po price reduced from 25 to 20
- Type 85 Susong-Po availability increased from 12 to 20
The balance patch is nice but I don't know how well the Dutchie DLC is going to do. Maybe a DLC that added new units I could deal with, but with this DLC adding only one minor nation, it's going to either end up breaking their promises regarding loan equipment even further (and we still lack a German Eurofighter, among other desperately-needed imports/collaborations) to make sure they're relatively balanced, or they're going to end up being as **** as Denmark. And I certainly wouldn't pay money for Denmark, low-tier spam decks aside.
Well, we will see how the W. Germany will work now since you cannot drown the enemy in Jägers' MG-3 fire anymore. All in all, I think HOL-GER could be a working coalition.
Dutch have also apparently reintroduced Blufor (GER-HOL alliance) helo spam as they can mix their cheap Apaches and expensive Apaches with German recon Tigers and back it all with super-good ECR.
Dutch have also apparently reintroduced Blufor (GER-HOL alliance) helo spam as they can mix their cheap Apaches and expensive Apaches with German recon Tigers and back it all with super-good ECR.
