War, Past vs. Present

[Kazdum]

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

 

[amondrubee]

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

You're right. People are too materialistic and cling onto empty titles, then reveal their cowardness when war breaks out. I'd rather live in an era where people killed with swords and shields, not hide mile away and press a button or use a gun, a tool even an unskilled kid can use to murder at mass.

 

[Lord Shields]

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

You're right. People are too materialistic and cling onto empty titles, then reveal their cowardness when war breaks out. I'd rather live in an era where people killed with swords and shields, not hide mile away and press a button or use a gun, a tool even an unskilled kid can use to murder at mass.

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

Well you two have definitely opened Pandora's Box with those ridiculous statements. Let me guess, you're both under 18? I'd like to see you don a military uniform, go to another country during a time of war, sight your weapon on someone and pull the trigger. Better yet... fire a mortar round or artillery round and then go see the mutilated body of a child that wandered into the kill zone. Then and only then can you go ahead and call service members cowards again.

This is a world now of who has the longest missile, the biggest bomb, and who can get into the fight losing the least amount of soldiers (or resources). The individual soldier nor do the nations decide what weapon to pick up and use. They have what is available to them at the time and use it to the best of their ability. But to call them cowards for using the weapons of this age, is idiotic to say the least. You sound like a fool when you make a comment like that.

Sure, let's go and put it into perspective. It's probably a different feeling to run your blade into another man's stomach from inches away than to say a sniper. But killing is killing. I'd challenge anyone with any similar thoughts (that it's cowardice) to first enlist yourself into a war and really experience it. Kill someone, from 100 yards away while being shot at and then when you're done, go read Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's book "On Killing" and "On Combat" then again you can come back here and say how much of a coward the rifleman is, or the artilleryman, or any number of people who risk their lives day in and day out.

You two are idiots for having made those comments on this forum, let alone anywhere on the internet. It's amazing how people who have never experienced war before, can claim to have an understanding of it. You see one movie, play one game, read one book, and all of a sudden you think you know what it means to kill. You don't have a CLUE.

 

[amondrubee]

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

You're right. People are too materialistic and cling onto empty titles, then reveal their cowardness when war breaks out. I'd rather live in an era where people killed with swords and shields, not hide mile away and press a button or use a gun, a tool even an unskilled kid can use to murder at mass.

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

Well you two have definitely opened Pandora's Box with those ridiculous statements. Let me guess, you're both under 18? I'd like to see you don a military uniform, go to another country during a time of war, sight your weapon on someone and pull the trigger. Better yet... fire a mortar round or artillery round and then go see the mutilated body of a child that wandered into the kill zone. Then and only then can you go ahead and call service members cowards again.

This is a world now of who has the longest missile, the biggest bomb, and who can get into the fight losing the least amount of soldiers (or resources). The individual soldier nor do the nations decide what weapon to pick up and use. They have what is available to them at the time and use it to the best of their ability. But to call them cowards for using the weapons of this age, is idiotic to say the least. You sound like a fool when you make a comment like that.

Sure, let's go and put it into perspective. It's probably a different feeling to run your blade into another man's stomach from inches away than to say a sniper. But killing is killing. I'd challenge anyone with any similar thoughts (that it's cowardice) to first enlist yourself into a war and really experience it. Kill someone, from 100 yards away while being shot at and then when you're done, go read Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's book "On Killing" and "On Combat" then again you can come back here and say how much of a coward the rifleman is, or the artilleryman, or any number of people who risk their lives day in and day out.

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job. They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. Telling me to read a book just proves how naive you are. A book is purely for entertainment, heavily edited by the publisher, and does not reflect any truth from the author, assuming the author is trying to tell a truthful story rather than make money.

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

 

[Kazdum]

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

You're right. People are too materialistic and cling onto empty titles, then reveal their cowardness when war breaks out. I'd rather live in an era where people killed with swords and shields, not hide mile away and press a button or use a gun, a tool even an unskilled kid can use to murder at mass.

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

Well you two have definitely opened Pandora's Box with those ridiculous statements. Let me guess, you're both under 18? I'd like to see you don a military uniform, go to another country during a time of war, sight your weapon on someone and pull the trigger. Better yet... fire a mortar round or artillery round and then go see the mutilated body of a child that wandered into the kill zone. Then and only then can you go ahead and call service members cowards again.

This is a world now of who has the longest missile, the biggest bomb, and who can get into the fight losing the least amount of soldiers (or resources). The individual soldier nor do the nations decide what weapon to pick up and use. They have what is available to them at the time and use it to the best of their ability. But to call them cowards for using the weapons of this age, is idiotic to say the least. You sound like a fool when you make a comment like that.

Sure, let's go and put it into perspective. It's probably a different feeling to run your blade into another man's stomach from inches away than to say a sniper. But killing is killing. I'd challenge anyone with any similar thoughts (that it's cowardice) to first enlist yourself into a war and really experience it. Kill someone, from 100 yards away while being shot at and then when you're done, go read Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's book "On Killing" and "On Combat" then again you can come back here and say how much of a coward the rifleman is, or the artilleryman, or any number of people who risk their lives day in and day out.

You two are idiots for having made those comments on this forum, let alone anywhere on the internet. It's amazing how people who have never experienced war before, can claim to have an understanding of it. You see one movie, play one game, read one book, and all of a sudden you think you know what it means to kill. You don't have a CLUE.

Yes, I am 9 years old, I dont know nothing about the world. Oh yeah, world war 2 was something, really those men had guts to fight there. But look at the recent wars, the americans bombared the hell out before thinking about engaging in combat, oh but they risk their lives! Who gives a damn, I risk my life every day going down street some thug can pull a gun and shoot me, sure but thats not beign a coward right?

I understand your statment, but you telling me that wars nowadays requires the same courage of the entire force as they did in medieval age? I think you are the one who is 18 here. Yes, SOME men risk their lives and need courage in the wars nowadays, not even near all of them.

No matter what you say, eye to eye combat will never even compare with guns, planes, missles and nuclear bombs.

PS: I wont post anything else about this argument, for this is not what the topic is about.

 

[Buxton]

This is a world now of who has the longest missile,

I've got the longest missile, ahhhhhh yeaahhhh 

 

[Lord Shields]

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job. They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. Telling me to read a book just proves how naive you are. A book is purely for entertainment, heavily edited by the publisher, and does not reflect any truth from the author, assuming the author is trying to tell a truthful story rather than make money.

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

HA! That's even more foolish than your last statement. So someone who wants to serve their country has no qualifications to get a proper job? What do you call an Officer who has a Masters degree in history or science? They don't qualify for half the jobs out there? They serve because they want to (or in WWII/Vietnam because they were drafted. Either way as long as they didn't run away and still shipped out, they chose to serve).

I've served before... so before you climb your high horse and say no one in a war in this era has risked their lives, I'll tell you you're full of crap.

I challenge you again to go ahead and put on the uniform and low crawl behind a dirt embankment while rounds are being fired at you and then come tell me that those soldiers don't risk their lives.

The other poster was 9... I'd bet you're about the same age.

 

[CJ1145]

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

You're right. People are too materialistic and cling onto empty titles, then reveal their cowardness when war breaks out. I'd rather live in an era where people killed with swords and shields, not hide mile away and press a button or use a gun, a tool even an unskilled kid can use to murder at mass.

It would be good, I myself think I have born in the wrong age, I am just glad I dint born in the 1600-1800. But I just cant stand how the world works today, even the wars, bunch of cowards, sit on their planes nuking 10th world countries.

Well you two have definitely opened Pandora's Box with those ridiculous statements. Let me guess, you're both under 18? I'd like to see you don a military uniform, go to another country during a time of war, sight your weapon on someone and pull the trigger. Better yet... fire a mortar round or artillery round and then go see the mutilated body of a child that wandered into the kill zone. Then and only then can you go ahead and call service members cowards again.

This is a world now of who has the longest missile, the biggest bomb, and who can get into the fight losing the least amount of soldiers (or resources). The individual soldier nor do the nations decide what weapon to pick up and use. They have what is available to them at the time and use it to the best of their ability. But to call them cowards for using the weapons of this age, is idiotic to say the least. You sound like a fool when you make a comment like that.

Sure, let's go and put it into perspective. It's probably a different feeling to run your blade into another man's stomach from inches away than to say a sniper. But killing is killing. I'd challenge anyone with any similar thoughts (that it's cowardice) to first enlist yourself into a war and really experience it. Kill someone, from 100 yards away while being shot at and then when you're done, go read Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's book "On Killing" and "On Combat" then again you can come back here and say how much of a coward the rifleman is, or the artilleryman, or any number of people who risk their lives day in and day out.

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job. They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. Telling me to read a book just proves how naive you are. A book is purely for entertainment, heavily edited by the publisher, and does not reflect any truth from the author, assuming the author is trying to tell a truthful story rather than make money.

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

JUST SHUT UP RIGHT NOW YOU GOD-DAMNED MOTHER****ER! My brothers were both in Desert Storm, and it ****ED THEM UP. Guess what? You don't have to KILL to get the **** knocked out of your head! One was a Jeep driver, the other was on a Mortar team. Both of them saw death. Both of them saw friends DIE. Shut your Blasphemed mouth, and never open it again!

 

[13 Spider Bloody Chain]

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job.

You do realize that people qualified for plenty of good jobs CHOOSE (willingly) to join the military?

They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. T

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

You may wish to speak with people on this forum who have served/are serving in the army, and ask of them what it's like to have bullets shot at you.

 

[Kazdum]

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job. They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. Telling me to read a book just proves how naive you are. A book is purely for entertainment, heavily edited by the publisher, and does not reflect any truth from the author, assuming the author is trying to tell a truthful story rather than make money.

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

HA! That's even more foolish than your last statement. So someone who wants to serve their country has no qualifications to get a proper job? What do you call an Officer who has a Masters degree in history or science? They don't qualify for half the jobs out there? They serve because they want to (or in WWII/Vietnam because they were drafted. Either way as long as they didn't run away and still shipped out, they chose to serve).

I've served before... so before you climb your high horse and say no one in a war in this era has risked their lives, I'll tell you you're full of crap.

I challenge you again to go ahead and put on the uniform and low crawl behind a dirt embankment while rounds are being fired at you and then come tell me that those soldiers don't risk their lives.

The other poster was 9... I'd bet you're about the same age.

wow, you really run around topics telling people they have less than 18 years old just because they dont agree with you? Nice attitude dude, I guess we know who is the child here.

 

[An4Sh]

This is a world now of who has the longest missile,

I've got the longest missile, ahhhhhh yeaahhhh 

Pfft, mine has a longer range.

 

[CJ1145]

Don't troll, bastard, this is serious 

 

[Lord Shields]

Sorry to hear about your brothers. This tool has no idea what he's talking about, neither does the other kid (who in another thread before it was lost transferring here, said he was 9 years old). I'd like to see him live on a boat for 4 months, climb onto shore with the rest of his team, and the first experience he gets in the combat zone is a dead mangled child being carried by his father who says, "You did this". Talk about an F'ed up mind.

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job. They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. Telling me to read a book just proves how naive you are. A book is purely for entertainment, heavily edited by the publisher, and does not reflect any truth from the author, assuming the author is trying to tell a truthful story rather than make money.

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

HA! That's even more foolish than your last statement. So someone who wants to serve their country has no qualifications to get a proper job? What do you call an Officer who has a Masters degree in history or science? They don't qualify for half the jobs out there? They serve because they want to (or in WWII/Vietnam because they were drafted. Either way as long as they didn't run away and still shipped out, they chose to serve).

I've served before... so before you climb your high horse and say no one in a war in this era has risked their lives, I'll tell you you're full of crap.

I challenge you again to go ahead and put on the uniform and low crawl behind a dirt embankment while rounds are being fired at you and then come tell me that those soldiers don't risk their lives.

The other poster was 9... I'd bet you're about the same age.

wow, you really run around topics telling people they have less than 18 years old just because they dont agree with you? Nice attitude dude, I guess we know who is the child here.

First time I've ever mentioned that before in a topic. So... how old are you anyway? The other kid said he was 9. I'm guessing you're about the same age, maybe 12. The reason I mentioned it was because it's true. Younger kids don't have the grasp of what war is really like. They speak crap and throw nonsense around and it's usually easy to spot. The way you presented yourself tells me you are inexperienced. Like I said above... I've served before... I went to 13 different countries SERVING my country (when I had a perfectly good job before) and deployed to Iraq during the initial invasion. I'm 27 now and have a fantastic job. My skills that I acquired in the Marines has helped me get the job I have now.

 

[Mabons]

These people don't 'risk their lives', they simply are there because they don't have qualifications to get a proper job. They know they can hide far away and use a gun, so they are not afraid. Telling me to read a book just proves how naive you are. A book is purely for entertainment, heavily edited by the publisher, and does not reflect any truth from the author, assuming the author is trying to tell a truthful story rather than make money.

A gun is the same as stabbing someone in the back with a sword while they are looking elsewhere.

You disgust me. These soldiers choose to go out and risk their life to save your bastarding skin and you treat them like dirt. What a ****ing arsehole.

Yes you do get the occasional(Or in my case a lot of) retard that can't think for ****, so joins the army as cannon fodder, but that is not true for them all.

EDIT:Warning - while you were typing 4 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. :shocked:

 

[Lost-Lamb]

Don't troll, bastard, this is serious 

That's what she said.


To be serious though, as long as it's not a drafting situation, both your brothers and everyone else that lost their lives got what they deserved.

 

[Mabons]

[me=Mabons]ignores LostLambs insignificant and cold-hearted opinion[/me]

 

[Kazdum]

neither does the other kid (who in another thread before it was lost transferring here, said he was 9 years old).

Did you seriously belive when I said I was 9? You have no sense of sarcasm at all? Dude... thats just... uh...

I am 24 years old so you can argue with me all you want, so you better stop calling me kid as a cover for lack of arguments otherwise I will take it as flames. In 3 posts total not answering to me you refered to me as a kid just because I stated my opinion.

 

[CJ1145]

24?! What are you still doing here?!

*Cracks whip* GET TO IRAQ, *****!!

 

[Mabons]

neither does the other kid (who in another thread before it was lost transferring here, said he was 9 years old).

Did you seriously belive when I said I was 9? You have no sense of sarcasm at all? Dude... thats just... uh...

I am 24 years old so you can argue with me all you want, so you better stop calling me kid as a cover for lack of arguments otherwise I will take it as flames. In 3 posts total not answering to me you refered to me as a kid just because I stated my opinion.

Whats the big deal about being called a kid? Never really bothered me, as long as I'm not treated like one.

24?! What are you still doing here?!

*Cracks whip* GET TO IRAQ, *****!!

 

[Kazdum]

neither does the other kid (who in another thread before it was lost transferring here, said he was 9 years old).

Did you seriously belive when I said I was 9? You have no sense of sarcasm at all? Dude... thats just... uh...

I am 24 years old so you can argue with me all you want, so you better stop calling me kid as a cover for lack of arguments otherwise I will take it as flames. In 3 posts total not answering to me you refered to me as a kid just because I stated my opinion.

Whats the big deal about being called a kid? Never really bothered me, as long as I'm not treated like one.

24?! What are you still doing here?!

*Cracks whip* GET TO IRAQ, *****!!

Well everyone have different ways to respond to things, for me it is when someone keep saying that over and over when I am not even posting.

And CJ I am not american