various small suggestions and issues.

[Nikola]

well this thread is basically about 3 things:

1. I love warband and M&B

2.  i fell that two handed weapons (particularly two handed swords) are over powered. i believe they are way to fast for a large and heavy weapons and are overpowered in speed and several minor things already suggested in other threads. personally however i only have a problem with its speed (way to fast).


3.i would like to make a thread of suggestible weapons and more to be added to the game.

I got an idea for a pitchfork to be added to war band as a cheap spear. It doesn't have to be strong but i feel it'll be a cool weapon to use on someone. It'll  also be realism a bit to because often militias or some form of militarized peasant groups (with farm like weapons) were quickly formed and fought in the defense of lands in the past.

Halberds (if that is how you spell it) would also make a great addition to the game.

I also got another idea however its not a weapon. i believe Stamina should be added to the game for characters. At the moment characters spam/ chop away at you real fast with 2 handers and other weapons, you don't really get much of a chance to strike back how fast they are. by adding stamina and making it decrease when a person attacks and refill when they block or not fight will greatly balance the game rather than how its currently going with people unrealistically and unfairly throwing a 50 hit combo at you.

Also i think it would also be fair that if a horses speed depend on its hp and damage taken rather then preforming at its peak even after you throw a axe at its neck.

EDIT:ALSO IF YOUR GOING TO VOTE ON THE POLL ATLEAST LEAVE A COMMENT SAYING WHY OR SAY SOMETHING RELATED TO THE THREAD

 

[foxcola55]

er no cuz stianma with it added be bornin as heck to ply probly end up waiting til stianma is out for ech other then boom none hit with fights wil last long everything be bornin in my opion..

 

[Nikola]

er no cuz stianma with it added be bornin as heck to ply probly end up waiting til stianma is out for ech other then boom none hit with fights wil last long everything be bornin in my opion..

Fair enough but reducing the speed of two handers would still be a good idea.

 

[Qwertyman]

As a peasant I fully support the addition of pitchforks


Stanima has been suggested and discussed before, and its generaly agreed that there are other ways of tackling spam problems that would not have the drawbacks stanima has (ie: making combat a grind, waiting till your enemy gets tired)

IMO 2hander swords arent overpowered,  they are very good in melee combat-  but they are horribly vulnerable to any kind of ranged attack, or even just a long weapon like a spear.
When parry and chamberblock is implimented in a way that affects gameplay more-  2hander spam will be obsolete,  all you will need to do is time a single block well and you will bring them down with ease.

 

[PsykoOps]

I want pitchforks and quarter staffs nao!!!

 

[Ronan]

I just played as a rhodok and felt that the swadian swords were really really fast. There's not really any room for error if fighting with a spiked club. I'd like some speed reduction.

 

[Marin Peace Bringer]

From what i have seen playing, i don't think two handers are to fast, but that may just be me.

I like the weapon ideas! I also think a poleaxe would be awesome, it would have no thrust attack and maybe some thing like, if swung from the left it does hammer type damage, but when swung from the right it does axe damage? or just have one type of damage, it would still be good, epically for the Swadians, but it would need to be done right with the length and such.

 

[Nikola]

i can see everyone agrees with the weapon ideas. Exelent! lol.

 

[Akselst]

Nah, 2h ain't to fast. You should rather consider to decrease the speed of spears. Their swing are way to fast, sometimes faster than 1h swords. Swing of spears should have less speed for sure! 2h is okay in my opinion. I see people with 1h sword killing guys with 2h's all the time, and the other way, so i think they are pretty good balanced.

 

[scythe111]

i can see everyone agrees with the weapon ideas. Exelent! lol.

Lol. Except the polls say otherwise. There's a reason swords were good back in the day! They're versatile and quick in the hands of a veteran.

They need some compensation for their lack of length, anyways. No reason a Nord 2h axe needs to win every time just because of range. Besides, all factions get swords. How can you say they're OP? Lol :]

I *will* say that 1h swords are a tad bit quick now. Scim spam = not fun :/

 

[Plazek]

I think 2h swords are not nearly as good as people sometimes say.

They are cool though 

 

[ares007]

The claim that 2-handed weapons are overpowered screams of noobism.  (just poking fun at you)

Anyhow, 1-handed swords (especially scimitars and short swords) can easily beat any 2-handed weapon in the hands of a good player. Right now, 2-handed spam has been overtaken by 1-handed spam.

Now your view may come from a "realism" point of view. But let me tell you as someone who has actually handled properly balanced European steel swords, a longsword or 2-handed sword was not a slow weapon at all. The force derived from two arms is greater than one which means faster swings (considering the fact that 2-handed swords didn't weigh much more than 1-handers anyway).

 

[Madnes5]

Hey i am going to have to say that i dont think stamina should be added. If i was a knight i would be able to swing a axe all day and night non stop other wise youd be dead in a battle so i dont feel stamina should really be added it would only add something else that would have to be fixed later

 

[Qwertyman]

Hey i am going to have to say that i dont think stamina should be added. If i was a knight i would be able to swing a axe all day and night non stop other wise youd be dead in a battle so i dont feel stamina should really be added it would only add something else that would have to be fixed later

kinda an exaggeration there   but he has a point,  adrenaline is a wonderfull thing-  ive yet to have a fight in warband where my character would have gotten tired and needed a quick sit down before he can fight again.
IMO in battles as short as in warband, fatigue would not really be a huge factor-  at least, not enough to be a gameplay feature.

 

[Nikola]

Firstly thank you very much for all your interesting comments and suggestions.  Secondly i mainly play with and against stereotypical medieval weapons like 2 handers, morning stars and 1 handed swadian/Nord style swords. I wouldn't really know if a spear and several other weps are op cause i rarely vs them and i even more rarely use them (other than the spear which i use against horses), however thanks for the feed back anyway and now that i think about it some other weps are more over powered or under powered than these, i just simply polled about the one that i did cause i was around them a lot more than others. once again thanks for the feed back and feel free to post suggestions.

 

[Daeran]

I want a new faction, peasant where you can have only farmer shirts, pitchfork, cleaver scythes, and stones as weapons.
2handers are fine how they are.

 

[foxcola55]

I want a new faction, peasant where you can have only farmer shirts, pitchfork, cleaver scythes, and stones as weapons.
2handers are fine how they are.

    hell no? that be just dumb maby in mod or sumthing but a fraction no-.-