Using "AI lords free units" to prevent snowball Is a bad idea

[Dabos37]

The AI is obviously cheating and I think It is ok. It is much better than see looters capturing Lords every minute.

"Just make the AI smarter"

Well sadly It is not as easy... AI uses cheats in almost every game for this reason.

Once TW fix the snowballing at all, I think that some things should change like making harder for Lords to scape and take some extra days before a defeated lord spawns with his free units.

 

[boooock]

This is my test result. He appeared in the village one day after being defeated and got troops. He had a castle.

 

[Pejot]

This is my test result. He appeared in the village one day after being defeated and got troops. He had a castle.

Ok that's clear proof they use templates. This makes it even worse to the player since they also take from garrisons and player might not be able to recover after battle while lord will come fresh and ready to raid.

 

[Chaosreaper187]

When the game is in the middle ，when you beat a lord , when he left you ,
He'll just come back in two days with his free units and his farmer,
and say "hey! It's been a while"
you beat him ---- over and over again
You just feel bored ，nothing has changed , everything you do is in vain , you're just a loser

sorry these are my feelings
Version 1.3 update sounds depressing
I think it's a priority for us to improve the diplomatic system and make the AI more smarter
but not "free units"

A little bit of advice
I'm sorry if my speech bothers you

The measures implemented to fix snowballing were just bandaids until the rest of their diplomacy systems are implemented.

 

[Tpfitz]

That's weird. The "Its early access bro" crowd told me things were going to get better with updates, not worse.

We all know modders are going to be the ones to make this game playable in the long run. As it is now, i agree with the OP ..it's basically pointless and aimless.

Kill army. Take city. Defend city. Join army to take far away city. Original city gets taken back. Come back from war. Retake city. Its given to someone else, which turns out to be fine when you watch AI spam 8 straight miracle armies to take city back and you dont have to deal with it . Repeat process.

 

[durbal]

I'd probably prefer snowballing at this point. The free units break the economy and are completely annoying. I was playing as a mercenary and killed so many of these parties so many times for the Northern Empire that they have a 3 castles with 500+ prisoners. It's absurd.

 

[Pejot]

I'd probably prefer snowballing at this point. The free units break the economy and are completely annoying. I was playing as a mercenary and killed so many of these parties so many times for the Northern Empire that they have a 3 castles with 500+ prisoners. It's absurd.

Yep now I totally understand what caused my ping pong game with Rhagea when I was Vlandian mercenary. They took two Battanian cities and I fought Rhagea trying to besiege them again and again in the same pass leading from Empire lands to Battania. This became so boring that I left Vlandia.

 

[bigbalzzz]

i am sorry OP the AI already does
witch is way alot of people executing lords idc what penalties come
end game i will vs the lord prison him vs him again with elite units and again and again and again while i try to take castle/city
the game became like cod zomby fighting wave after wave
and the increase jail time is a way to help prevent that for the time being
its actually bad and idk why u even mentioning it

 

[TomaSkTemplar]

so, people were complaining that bandits take lords

unrealistic ? Not.

Instead of nerfing the everpresent, no-food eating bandits, you cried, buff the lords. And they did listen. And it prevented the snowballing. But you as a player could get easily overwhelmed by the huge amounts of enemies, especially because your units are hard and expensive to get. AI now justs cheats them in because you folks like immediate wannabe solutions that break things.

Nerf ai lords, nerf the stupid out of nowhere armies appearing in the next village with 100% hp.

Lords youi destroy come back healthy. You ? Not. It seems people who cry game too easy make for all sorts of penalties AI doesnt get. Do you get ull HP when you escape ? No. 20-25%. Why 12 hp healing for 4,5 days is considered ok ? Armor does next to nothing when you get hit, heal for years. The AI ? They pull them together, special kind of surgeons only AI gets. Not funny at all.