Upper-class people=douches for real?

[Pjoo]

While this is not really my personal experience, most people I'd view as douche would've been from working class, the results do kind of make sense. Not being limited as much by morals would improve the chances of getting rich, and being born into upper class could easily make you feel superior, thus care less about your relationships with the common folk.

I guess most of these tests were done on US citizens? Would be intrested to see how it would change if done on people of different nationalities.

 

[Bulle]

So, Bulle's conclusion that money causes people to be douches is flawed, and if there was actually some scientific method of identifying douches you would expect them to occur in the same proportion in each class. It's just that their behaviors would differ.

I didn't say that.

 

[Worbah]

Social segregation leads to douche bags. Should you spend your life only with Bertrams and Portias, chances are you're awkward as **** around people who've not been as well of as you. Saw this in the army quite often, for an example one guy actually asked another "does your daddy not buy you cars? Is he lazy or something?".

 

[Moose!]

My family is certainly upper class (top 10%), but I hope I'm not a douche. Also really interesting study. Thanks for posting the whole thing.

 

[kurczak]

I hate the idea of being "rich" and it makes me miserable thinking of it, of all these narcotics and opiates like "money" which itself is a concept that I oppose. When I was little I was in the upper middle class and then I went down to just the proletariat. Although I have always seen the merits of every political ideology/socioeconomic theory, I have usually identified myself closest to anarchism and communism, both of which rely on the overthrow of bourgeois society. And how can I support such a thing if, hypocritically, I am part of the bourgeoisie? The whole idea of seeing myself as anything but working class is absurd, but just because the job I am interested in coincidentally pays well, I am damned to became a part of what I see as an issue (the government and parts of the bourgeoisie supporting them.)

I would love to hear from you on this subject in five or ten years. Making (relevant) money is pretty addictive, you'll see for yourself. Chances are you're gonna love it.

 

[Oyipggy]

Oh for...

When you expect something, you're going to see it. It's all well and good they've done a study on it, but hell, studies can prove anything these days.

 

[An4Sh]

I hate the idea of being "rich" and it makes me miserable thinking of it, of all these narcotics and opiates like "money" which itself is a concept that I oppose. When I was little I was in the upper middle class and then I went down to just the proletariat. Although I have always seen the merits of every political ideology/socioeconomic theory, I have usually identified myself closest to anarchism and communism, both of which rely on the overthrow of bourgeois society. And how can I support such a thing if, hypocritically, I am part of the bourgeoisie? The whole idea of seeing myself as anything but working class is absurd, but just because the job I am interested in coincidentally pays well, I am damned to became a part of what I see as an issue (the government and parts of the bourgeoisie supporting them.)

**** that, I'm not spending 6 years of my life studying medicine and another 8 years to specialise, which brings it up to 14 years, to earn as much as someone who was able to live his life up to that point doing simpler jobs.

 

[Vieira151]

Talk to people at Glasgow Uni. First person asks "So hey, where are you from?". I say I'm from blablabla High School. Giggles awkwardly. Second person asks, what does your mom and dad do? I say, my dads a gamekeeper, my mum can't work with her wrist, but she was a dog groomer before that. Then the three of them just look at me as if I'm ****ing queer or some ****. They ask my mate what his parents do, he says "Both are doctors" and they nod in approval.


So yes, upper class people = douches.


Except my dads boss, he is teh win.

I'm sure it's worse at Edinburgh and St. Andrews. 

 

[Bulle]

My family is certainly upper class (top 10%), but I hope I'm not a douche. Also really interesting study. Thanks for posting the whole thing.

Buy me something nice and I am sure we can come to an arrangement in terms of you being or not being a douche.

 

[Mage246]

Trying to buy someone's affection is pretty douchey.

 

[Ambalon]

**** that, I'm not spending 6 years of my life studying medicine and another 8 years to specialise, which brings it up to 14 years, to earn as much as someone who was able to live his life up to that point doing simpler jobs.

I am. 

 

[An4Sh]

You are a liar and I don't believe you. May your nervus olfactorius get damaged in a way that you always smell elderberries.

 

[Ambalon]

But... my father! What about him?!

 

[Mage246]

Ambalon, *I* am your father!

 

[Tuckles]

I'm sure it's worse at Edinburgh and St. Andrews. 

It's not bad in Edinburgh (at least the University of Edinburgh), mostly because everyone's upper class.

 

[Vieira151]

Exactly.   

 

[Tibertus]

I think part of the perceived douchiness of upper class people may be attributed to the idea of their status being unfair from a poor person's perspective. I get this all the time. I have a pretty nice motorcycle, it didn't really cost me that much, but it looks expensive and it's exotic. So, when I ride it around, people think I'm some rich bastard and thus treat me like I'm being a jerk even if I'm riding in a perfectly reasonable manner. The ill will towards me gets progressively worse with the level of ****tyness of the observers car. If someone in a beater sees me on my bike, I'll almost always get a scoff. I think part of the perception of upper class people being douches can really be attributed to jealousy and notions of unfairness.

 

[Tuckles]

But... but... it's SCIENCE! on a PUBLISHED PAPER! With an abstract and everything!

 

[Adorno]

I think part of the perceived douchiness of upper class people may be attributed to the idea of their status being unfair from a poor person's perspective. ... I think part of the perception of upper class people being douches can really be attributed to jealousy and notions of unfairness.

That's not what the paper is about. It's not about perception of moral from different points of view
but about lying (withholding the truth) and greed.

 

[QuailLover]

I think there are so many variables with something like this.

Partly I think the more douchie ones are kids who grew up with parents who are rich, and give them what ever they want. Thus the feel entitled. There are the families who are upper class, that don't give their kids what ever they want, and in fact they have to work for things they want. (Movies, music, pocket change and etc). 

Or like me, who have an extremely, life changing disease... that kind of changes your douchie ways.