Uniforms of ww1

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Well, assuming nobody continued Leonardo da Vinci's works, nope. From what I know, Leonardo didn't test the machine himself, but built it. On the other hand, from Evliya Çelebi's Seyahatname (a big set of books that contain his memoirs from his travels across all over the Empire), he met this Ahmet guy in Constantinople and seen him/heard him fly over the Bosphorus from Galata Tower (The flight is possibly somewhere over a kilometer). Which is quite an accomplishment for his time I guess.
 
Gergin Adam said:
Artizan said:
It was revealed that this photo is actually taken in 1918(it was written on the backside of the photo) which is 3 years after Gallipoli. The photo was taken by the German pilot,Emil Meinecke, who fought on behalf of Ottoman Empire. The uniform the tall guy is wearing is actually French, not Turkish(notice how the buttons are on different sides). The guy who released this photo also admitted that "these guys might not be soldiers".

Agree. Artizan mentioned before me. Also I read a detailed research about the photo, it is clearly fake.

Ottoman Air Force had 4 planes? Come on... The empire had a notable air force with around hundred (maybe more) aircrafts and Turkish personnel. Please research about it.

Of course German pilots were much famous, Ottoman Empire started to show interest to aviation just before the WW1.
The whole aviation "thing" started just before the WW1 :razz: The planes were first used for military purpose in 1911, during the Tripoli war. It is natural for Ottomans to show interest, because they were the ones who encountered planes on the battlefield first :grin:
 
Skot the Sanguine said:
Actually you guys are probably right, considering how the airplane is missing the propeller.  :lol:

I'd be surprised if the guy on the right actually normally wears that as a uniform...either that or he took a close bomb or artillery blast not long before the photo.  :mrgreen:

Actually most Turkish soldiers did not have proper clothing. They made clothes and foot wraps from scavenged parts. Those are among those.

Swordmaster said:
Actually Ottomans could've been the pioneers for aviation in the world if Sultan Murad hadn't exiled Hazerfen Ahmet Çelebi after he flew over the Bosphorus and gave him some patronage instead.

Oh come on!  They could have become the pioneers of aviation using a batman costume? That's ridiculous.  :smile:
Here's the part where he flies from the movie "Istanbul Under My Wings"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm3WuGWGap4

Here's the movie with English subs:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51nScozdfOE
 
Artizan said:
It was revealed that this photo is actually taken in 1918(it was written on the backside of the photo) which is 3 years after Gallipoli. The photo was taken by the German pilot,Emil Meinecke, who fought on behalf of Ottoman Empire. The uniform the tall guy is wearing is actually French, not Turkish(notice how the buttons are on different sides). The guy who released this photo also admitted that "these guys might not be soldiers".

Well, the fact that you say it is Emil Meinecke shows that it indeed is the Gallipoli front.  Meinecke was one of the pilots (and an ace) that flew with the German detachment to Turkey at Gallipoli:  FA6.  This was the same unit that Buddecke and Schuz flew with.  That unit stayed in the Gallipoli area throughout the war.  So even though the battle itself was in 1915-1916, the unit flew in the area for the following years.  1917 was a bust for them but in 1918 the Brits and the Greeks were flying raiding missions from the Aegean islands.

So, Gallipoli (not the "battle of" though).

As for the Turk who flew across the Bosphorus in the 1600's...utter rubbish.  It sounds just like those accounts of medieval monks who "flew" from bell towers in Europe.  All those stories are more about religious moralistic teachings than about someone actually flying.  What was probably just someone managing to survive an attempt (and usually busting some limbs in the process) then becomes "successful to fly" and then "flew across X" with X being some large geographic feature, after each decade of retelling.
 
Well, on topic, a real Ottoman pilot from WWI:
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More about Turkish Airforces during ww1; when the war started and Ottomans joined the war on axis side, France did not deliver the planes to Turkey which were ordered before the war. So Ottoman airforce had only 6 planes and 7 pilots initially. Then of course Germany supplied Ottoman Empire with 300 planes during the whole war, and only 100 of them were left at the end of the war. Another pilot photo, Vecihi Bey:sad:later years)
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Skot the Sanguine said:
As for the Turk who flew across the Bosphorus in the 1600's...utter rubbish.  It sounds just like those accounts of medieval monks who "flew" from bell towers in Europe.  All those stories are more about religious moralistic teachings than about someone actually flying.  What was probably just someone managing to survive an attempt (and usually busting some limbs in the process) then becomes "successful to fly" and then "flew across X" with X being some large geographic feature, after each decade of retelling.

It had no religious morality in this case. Someone managing to survive an attempt is also a succes in my book. Besides, it is only mentioned/recorded in Evliya Çelebi's memoirs.
 
Of course, I never said it must have happened, but by recordings we mostly keep track of things that have happened before our time right?

Even his start of the ridiculously long journey is a joke. :smile:
 
Pardon my English, I meant that it's not hundred percent certain of how, when or by whom the things happened in the past. It can be mostly gibberish, though it's an interesting tale.
 
You can't always stick to the topic written in the first post; one post leads to another and you end up talking something different. Which is not entirely different than the first post since we are talking about history, perception, credibility and stuff which is related to the topic at hand via the picture I posted earlier.
So, I win, you lose, Wellenbrecher is somewhere in between which isn't saying much to be honest.
 
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