[UNAC] Suggestions, Improvements and Announcements

[Gelden]

A bit too late to start testing a faction to be implemented into a tournament that has already started don't yah think?

 

[WilySly]

Personally, I'd rather this stay a 1.153 tourney.  I haven't followed the new patch's development for the last couple months, but I've been told that it contains some substantial changes.  I think it's kind of a stretch to expect teams to rapidly adopt these patch changes within the week between Round 1 and Round 2.

After seeing the actual changes (posted below by Cradoc), these actually seem pretty beneficial.

 

[Nord Champion]

Personally, I'd rather this stay a 1.153 tourney.  I haven't followed the new patch's development for the last couple months, but I've been told that it contains some substantial changes.  I think it's kind of a stretch to expect teams to rapidly adopt these patch changes within the week between Round 1 and Round 2.

On the other hand, I think its a stretch to force players to play an outdated version just for a tournament.

You can have both versions installed on your computer, so this doesn't really matter.

 

[Wappaw_Pizza42]

Given that everyone would be adapting to any changes at the same time, we would all be on a level playing field in that respect.

 

[Cradoc]

-Regular Spears will stop horses
-Atheletics for rangers down -1
-Athletics for infantry up +1
-Changed netcode to fix a bug where animations would sometimes fail to load.
-Rebalanced Khergit multiplayer troops and added 'Khergit Infantry' class.
-Adjusted price of certain items in multiplayer based on faction (certain items now cost different amounts of gold depending on faction).
-Rebalanced several items to create proper price/quality progression balance in multiplayer.
-Adjusted the way attack cancelling is handled while jumping. (most notably is jump reloading for Xbows)
-Fixed a visual error with attacks that are cancelled mid air.
-Fixed animation error with pikes.
-Adjusted the way attack cancelling is handled while jumping.
-turn speed being nerfed reverted

Can't find anything else. As for updating? I'm all for it.

 

[Rhade]

Personally, I'd rather this stay a 1.153 tourney.  I haven't followed the new patch's development for the last couple months, but I've been told that it contains some substantial changes.  I think it's kind of a stretch to expect teams to rapidly adopt these patch changes within the week between Round 1 and Round 2.

Disagree. The changes are good and promotes a fresh look to a stale and boring meta. I'd like to embrace it.

Netcode being optimized is a good thing, I've had the animations not loading problem for a while.

 

[Catholic]

Agreed. ^^

 

[Juve]

I too agree. Most of the tournament is new to pretty much everyone as it is; 1200g, first to 4 with sets, map pools, etc. I think the match will be equally new to all teams and its changes will good overall.

 

[Cradoc]

Personally, I'd rather this stay a 1.153 tourney.  I haven't followed the new patch's development for the last couple months, but I've been told that it contains some substantial changes.  I think it's kind of a stretch to expect teams to rapidly adopt these patch changes within the week between Round 1 and Round 2.

Disagree. The changes are good and promotes a fresh look to a stale and boring meta. I'd like to embrace it.

Netcode being optimized is a good thing, I've had the animations not loading problem for a while.

Yeah I'm hoping this fixes the high ping animations that get sped up or just don't play until they finish/hit.
Not to mention most of those changes are really good.

 

[Calamity]

Stay tuned for information regarding this. Should be announced in the next day or so.

 

[m1tchell23]

can the rules be made a bit more clearer. thankyou plz

 

[Juve]

A good point. Just watched the stream, read up on the rules, and noticed this is as clear as it gets:

-Each week, two maps will be randomly chosen from each category (closed/open), resulting in a pool of 4 maps. Captains may only choose maps from the current week's pool. The same map may not be in the pool two weeks in a row. The maps will be selected on the Saturday (day before) the current weeks matches begin.

A simple "only one map of each category per match" or something along those lines would make it crystal clear. Though as far as I know GwA is probably one of the only teams who didn't already know this rule.

 

[Nord Champion]

A good point. Just watched the stream, read up on the rules, and noticed this is as clear as it gets:

-Each week, two maps will be randomly chosen from each category (closed/open), resulting in a pool of 4 maps. Captains may only choose maps from the current week's pool. The same map may not be in the pool two weeks in a row. The maps will be selected on the Saturday (day before) the current weeks matches begin.

A simple "only one map of each category per match" or something along those lines would make it crystal clear. Though as far as I know GwA is probably one of the only teams who didn't already know this rule.

But you can choose from the same category. We noticed that disallowing the choosing of the same category isn't effective with only two categories. Thus, the only thing you can't do is choose the same map twice.

 

[Juve]

Then this is indeed news to me. Nevermind

 

[Kherven]

But you can choose from the same category. We noticed that disallowing the choosing of the same category isn't effective with only two categories. Thus, the only thing you can't do is choose the same map twice.

... so this week could of consisted of Sandi'boush AND Vandetta for a match? ...Interesting. Why are we doing fixtures again? lol It seems that more or less defeats the whole purpose now.

 

[KoA John]

The whole purpose of the map pool idea was to keep the teams from choosing 2 closed maps or 2 open maps in the same match and so if it came to a tie breaker you would get 1 closed, 1 open, 1 mixed and get a really good idea of which team is better at the categories overall

At least that's what I thought

 

[Fritigern]

But you can choose from the same category. We noticed that disallowing the choosing of the same category isn't effective with only two categories. Thus, the only thing you can't do is choose the same map twice.

... so this week could of consisted of Sandi'boush AND Vandetta for a match? ...Interesting. Why are we doing fixtures again? lol It seems that more or less defeats the whole purpose now.

Yeah, I'm not exactly understanding the point of pooling maps into categories anymore if you can just pick whatever the hell you want. I thought the whole purpose of doing this was forcing variety -- although I use that term loosely given what we have to pick from -- into a match.

 

[captain lust]

As a streamer, I have no way to know when matches are going to be played other than talking to all the teams individually. If you could get some kind of schedule up it would help me immensely and MB_tv might be able to get some UNAC action going (which we'd love to do).

 

[Rhade]

- Winner gets to choose attacker or defender. The defending team gets first selection for map and spawn. The attackers then choose their faction, and the defenders choose theirs. Factions may not be mirrored, nor may they be reused on the second map. The category of the map selected may not be picked from again by the defending team (see map categories below). Maps may not be repeated. The second map is chosen by the attackers, who also pick their spawn. Defenders choose faction first on the second map, and attackers choose faction second. Again, no repeated/mirrored factions are allowed.

Reading is hard.

From the tournament rules thread.

 

[captain lust]

- Winner gets to choose attacker or defender. The defending team gets first selection for map and spawn. The attackers then choose their faction, and the defenders choose theirs. Factions may not be mirrored, nor may they be reused on the second map. The category of the map selected may not be picked from again by the defending team (see map categories below). Maps may not be repeated. The second map is chosen by the attackers, who also pick their spawn. Defenders choose faction first on the second map, and attackers choose faction second. Again, no repeated/mirrored factions are allowed.

Reading is hard.

From the tournament rules thread.

By the defending team... i.e. the defending team can pick a closed map for the first one and the attacking team can pick another closed map for the second one.