Ultimate medieval warrior!

[Vorenus]

hi people,

I wanna know what you think is the ultimate medieval warrior, or just the the best warrior of all times!

 

[FrisianDude]

Nobody, never and nowhere. 

 

[uncreative]

Considering that I havn't heard of any place where millitary training and martial arts (pankration!) was taken to this extent, I'd say Sparta had the strongest, manliest warriors. And 99% of their males who were "true citizens", were also pretty much mandatory homosexual, despite modern stereotypes.

 

[brasidus]

If you mean European, many would say it was William the Marshall first Earl of Pembroke

William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke (1146 – 14 May 1219), also called William the Marshal (Guillaume le Maréchal), was an Anglo Norman soldier and statesman. He has been described as the "greatest knight that ever lived" (Stephen Langton). He served five kings — Henry the Young King, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, John and Henry III — and rose from obscurity to become a regent of England and one of the most powerful men in Europe. Before him, the hereditary title of "Lord Marshal" designated a sort of head of household security for the king of England; by the time he died, people throughout Europe (not just England) referred to him simply as "the Marshal".

 

[Merlkir]

sounds like a MaB player character

 

[doorknobdeity]

Is that the guy who had to have his helmet literally pounded off by a blacksmith after one tournament?

I really have to read his full biography sometime. If this is who I think it is, he has a wonderful story.

 

[The Wandering Knight]

Geoffroi de Charny.

 

[brasidus]

Charny was good as was Raymond Lull, but none won the fame of The Marshall. His acclaim came from his peers as much as history, no small feat.

 

[Llew2]

If you mean European, many would say it was William the Marshall first Earl of Pembroke

William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke (1146 – 14 May 1219), also called William the Marshal (Guillaume le Maréchal), was an Anglo Norman soldier and statesman. He has been described as the "greatest knight that ever lived" (Stephen Langton). He served five kings — Henry the Young King, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, John and Henry III — and rose from obscurity to become a regent of England and one of the most powerful men in Europe. Before him, the hereditary title of "Lord Marshal" designated a sort of head of household security for the king of England; by the time he died, people throughout Europe (not just England) referred to him simply as "the Marshal".

That's my man! 

 

[Raithe]

Tokugawa Ieyasu - Not only did he unite Japan through Military, social and political means with a little sneakiness thrown in  (Forged documents proving he was of Minamoto decent which allowed him by law to take appointment in the position of Shogun). He set it up so it lasted over 250 years. He did alot more to its pretty interesting. Just read a book that had a large section on him.

 

[Lizard_man]

have to mention Richard the lionheart, even though he was king he was always fighting with his men on the front line, which eventually lead to his death, live by the sword, die by the sword, but in this case it was a bolt from a crossbow

 

[Luisrah]

Well then I'd say my first king was better, D.Afonso Henriques always fought in the front lines, but died by old age, and conquered more than half our current territory from those pesky moors  (no offense)

What about William Wallace? I don't think he even used armor 

 

[Untitled.]

Í fail to see the fun in that.

 

[pentagathus]

My grandma.

 

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[Eric_Clapton]

I Would Still say it's just a plain veteran soldier. Someone Who has fought for 30 years or so, and still lived. Every nation has their own tales of these men. The men named in this thread was all leaders, even thought fought often whith the men, but they had a bodyguard whith them. And for example one of these bodyguards could be the guy you are searching. One of our national(finland) tale "heros" were a guy called Lalli. He wasn't a great soldier or even a veteran one, but he killed singlehanded a big bunch of christian soldiers and the Bishop Henrik after they wanted bread and rest in Lallis house when he wasnt home. He skied a week after the party and killed them all. Of course now days they think that Lalli wasn't actually "a guy", but at least a bunch of guys, or even a party. But both the spoken and the small amount of written evidence of Lallis existance speaks only of Lalli. They think that Lalli could have been the leader of a party or something like that.

Eric_C

 

[The Wandering Knight]

What about William Wallace? I don't think he even used armor 

He did, actually.

 

[Ruthven]

Well, it's a pity I'm late and can't remember their names, but there were two brothers (If I recall this story correctly) From the House of Ruthven who decided (or were forced) to betray Scotland in an attempt to assassinate Mary Queen of Scots. They damn near succeeded, too, but failed in the end. One of the brothers went into hiding, where he was eventually found and killed for treason. The other moved to England and was never caught for his crime.

Still, neither of them died, and seeing as it was pretty much a mad charge into the heart of a whole bunch of guards... I'd say that's pretty good.

Now, there must be some details I'm forgetting, as the last time I read the "official account" of the story was when we found the old family tree after my grandma died.

Funny thing is, I'm related to not only Mary Queen of Scots, but also her two would-be killers. 

 

[anglomanii]

maximillian the first!

hloy roman emperor, and a man who stood in the front rank of geman schlachthaufen. he proved all men could "von der pike auf gelernt" ( come from the pike up)

 

[Ruthven]

Olav Tryggvason. Because no man that didn't die fighting every Nordic nation at once is worth a mention in this thread

I change my vote to this. A monkey with a helmet. Classic.