Sir Saladin
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By gawd you was drunk. You didn't even use paragraphs. 
U.S Fed. Government Shutdown!
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Mage246
I know... The urge to go back and edit is so strong.
Sir Saladin
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Wasn't FDR drunk out of his mind when he gave is "nothing to fear but fear itself" speech?
Divayith
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Sir Saladin 说:Divayith 说:Trevty 说:They are the minority party.Vadermath 说:I wouldn't say the Republicans are a minority in the US, nutty as they are
Republicans are the majority in the lower house, Dems is the upper. We have these things called checks and balances, they serve us well I think.
Also, give the Tea Party some credit, they showed some farsightedness with that rule change
God damn it. I can not believe how many people think checks and balances means having two enemy camps running the country.
The checks and balances are about having three branches of government and a free and independent press, not about having a nice even sided battle between the Outlaws and the Hells Angels. We would do fine with only one political party.
Originally the senate was elected by state congress, and the national house by popular vote, so yes, it was set up to be so. The federalist papers even talk about it being a form of checking power. Not for political party reasons though.
Mage246
It was set up to be that way because they wanted for each state to have a strong advocate in the national government. Not to have the House and Senate fight like cats and dogs and **** around wasting each other's time and taxpayer money. Eventually people realized that having a statewide election could work just as well or better than having the state legislatures provide the state's national representative.
Divayith 说:Sir Saladin 说:Divayith 说:Trevty 说:They are the minority party.Vadermath 说:I wouldn't say the Republicans are a minority in the US, nutty as they are
Republicans are the majority in the lower house, Dems is the upper. We have these things called checks and balances, they serve us well I think.
Also, give the Tea Party some credit, they showed some farsightedness with that rule change
God damn it. I can not believe how many people think checks and balances means having two enemy camps running the country.
The checks and balances are about having three branches of government and a free and independent press, not about having a nice even sided battle between the Outlaws and the Hells Angels. We would do fine with only one political party.
Originally the senate was elected by state congress, and the national house by popular vote, so yes, it was set up to be so. The federalist papers even talk about it being a form of checking power. Not for political party reasons though.
Erm, that difference in selection was intended to make the senate more immune to popular opinion, so that a portion of the legislative branch would consist primarily of intellectuals applying their expertise without fear of retribution from an uneducated public. It had nothing to do with putting the house and the senate in control of opposing parties. Debate from multiple parties is encouraged and welcomed, but that's not indicative of a two party system, two parties this at odds, or having such a hostile debate be a part of the checks and balances.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEUlDNs8j-Qrejenorst 说:Nothing like a drunkard's words to get the blood boiling
Gentlemen let us mobilize for war ^_^ this will be our tipsiest hour...
Divayith
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Magorian Aximand 说:Divayith 说:Sir Saladin 说:Divayith 说:Trevty 说:They are the minority party.Vadermath 说:I wouldn't say the Republicans are a minority in the US, nutty as they are
Republicans are the majority in the lower house, Dems is the upper. We have these things called checks and balances, they serve us well I think.
Also, give the Tea Party some credit, they showed some farsightedness with that rule change
God damn it. I can not believe how many people think checks and balances means having two enemy camps running the country.
The checks and balances are about having three branches of government and a free and independent press, not about having a nice even sided battle between the Outlaws and the Hells Angels. We would do fine with only one political party.
Originally the senate was elected by state congress, and the national house by popular vote, so yes, it was set up to be so. The federalist papers even talk about it being a form of checking power. Not for political party reasons though.
Erm, that difference in selection was intended to make the senate more immune to popular opinion, so that a portion of the legislative branch would consist primarily of intellectuals applying their expertise without fear of retribution from an uneducated public. It had nothing to do with putting the house and the senate in control of opposing parties. Debate from multiple parties is encouraged and welcomed, but that's not indicative of a two party system, two parties this at odds, or having such a hostile debate be a part of the checks and balances.
I put "Not for political party reasons though" If you didn't see that.
You want to address the rest of that? And how about Mage's rant?
Sir Saladin
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Now you just looking for trouble.
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