Types of bandits
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insomniac 说:
Yes, but they have to be separate parties too.
They weren't rare then. It would be cool to hire them, I got bored of American mercs.
PrideOfThePhilippines.
Regular
Although being unrelated to subject; I believe that Mexico shouldn't be total republic controlled. The damn Franco-Mexican War lasted to about 1867.
Phoboshobo
Sergeant
A small party of insane redcoat soldiers forgotten by Britain when they withdrew after the War of Independence. You could give them very faded red jackets, muskets and the oldest skin type. They live a small fort on the edge of the map and refuse to believe the war is over.
Phoboshobo
Sergeant
British would be funnier in a bizarre Fallout way. I think the Confeds should be expanded - maybe as an outlaw faction. British troops would make the mix more varied.
Bobicus880
Sergeant
Phoboshobo 说:
Assuming they were around 20 during the war they would have to be 110 and older. Plus the American Revolution happened in the East, and not to mention the fact that the majority of Loyalists went to Canada. I would like to hear the story of how they got to Texas. (I'm not bashing your idea at all. I love the idea of the English (more likely spanish) finding the fountain of youth, and travelig around America as immortals, however it seems like there going for realism)
Redcoats were tough people (except when they had to face Mel Gibson).Penis Colada 说:
Eaglebucky
Veteran
The War of 1812 would me the most recent where the British were in America. Although the did back the Confederate cause over the Union.
For a new bandit party how about Comancheros in the Comanche area it would be completely accurate for the time period
How about some roaming hunters that go after wild game for the towns.
For a new bandit party how about Comancheros in the Comanche area it would be completely accurate for the time period
How about some roaming hunters that go after wild game for the towns.
The Man With No Name
Recruit
About the British redcoat soldier thing... maybe we can have an elderly British mercenary, who had fought the U.S. during the War of 1812? That would be more feasable than a mercenary who had served all the way back to the Revolutionary War. Assuming the British soldier were born in, say, 1792, and he had served in the War of 1812 at the age of 20, he would be 74 by the time of 1866... so would he be a little too old to be an active mercenary? You know, some old guys are tough and healthy bucks even at that age, so it's possible that our friend William Plows (a name idea) can be the odd one out, who is still a healthy 74 year old man, and one who is still able to fight pretty efficiently (though probably not close to how he could have during his 20s).
So, what is your opinion on an old British redcoat mercenary (who fought, again, during the War of 1812, not the other war), instead of a group of them from the Revolutionary War period (too old, though there were a few American Revolutionary War veterans alive in the 1860s, not sure for the British, and even the Americans were frail and weak at that age).
So, what is your opinion on an old British redcoat mercenary (who fought, again, during the War of 1812, not the other war), instead of a group of them from the Revolutionary War period (too old, though there were a few American Revolutionary War veterans alive in the 1860s, not sure for the British, and even the Americans were frail and weak at that age).
I think it's stupid to add old British men here. They would be too old for fighting.
Add one NPC instead. Let him be veteran of old wars, and experienced soldier who has broke and still willing to earn something to eat. This would please all of you who want redcoats in 1866, and would be realistic enough for those who don't want to see 80 year old grandaddies to run on battlefield.
Add one NPC instead. Let him be veteran of old wars, and experienced soldier who has broke and still willing to earn something to eat. This would please all of you who want redcoats in 1866, and would be realistic enough for those who don't want to see 80 year old grandaddies to run on battlefield.
The Man With No Name
Recruit
Lord Tryko 说:
Yeah, that's what I was getting at in my post. It's over the top to have a group of 'em in the 1866 old western frontier. Instead, one British NPC who happens to be born in the very late 1700s, presumably a War of 1812 veteran, would be more feasable.
He wouldn't really look like a Redcoat from the Revolutionary War period, as the British Army uniform changed since then to 1812 to another design set. Here's a picture of what they would have looked like:
I guess by 1866, if our hypothetical 1812 British veteran, William Plows, had managed to keep his old army service uniform, it would still be very tattered and dusty by then, possibly with some holes, stains, and moth bites too. So it would look like old rags, more or less, but a faded dark reddish color. Now, I'm not sure if the 1866 Team is interested in this idea as much as you or I, as it would require a new outfit to be worn by that one character (though it would make him very unique). In regards to his equipment, he would likely be carrying a slightly more modern gun by 1866, rather than his old service rifle, well, we could use an 1807 Springfield for him to carry around, but that's a bit anachronistic in itself, as I'm not sure if the British soldiers at the time would have been using that particular musket, the Americans did, but we were their enemies. Now, if he were to use a more modern rifle, he would likely be using an Enfield, which we already have, so we can opt for that. Now, in regards to his hat, he could be wearing a variation of the Shako that we already have (except, well... make it look less Mexican maybe?), or an old style cocked hat, even a top hat (cylinder hat) that we already have. As for boots, well, he could just have some tattered steel toed boots that are also already in the game.
I'm just throwing ideas here, if this all seems a bit ridiculous, I can understand, but at the same time, I think it's pretty possible, in a very uncommon way for the time, as old veterans would have most likely been retired to civilian life by 1866.
I think it would be really nice to see a weird ol' guy in tattered red uniform, saying ridiculous stories about his warring times. It's not really hard to make a uniform for this mate, but it's on the team to decide.
We've thrown some nice ideas here, I hope everybody else will like 'em.
We've thrown some nice ideas here, I hope everybody else will like 'em.
The Man With No Name
Recruit
Lord Tryko 说:
Yeah I agree. Another idea, and one less farfetched, is to include a band of Confederate renegades, something around 40 men, patrolling the part of the map around New Mexico or northern Texas, where it's a little far from the towns, and it's mainly wilderness. They would have the Confederate uniforms seen in the mercenary units already ingame, though they could also have the more ragged looking uniforms that you can buy in the shops. These Confederates would know of the South's loss and all, but they would refuse to give up, or something along those lines. Would these former Confederate bandits make a good gang that a player can join, possibly, or would this be a little too unrealistic? We have American outlaw, Mexican bandit, and lawmen (militia, rangers, sheriffs, deputies, vigilantes, etc...) groups already, but should Confederate renegades be a category?
DamienZharkoff
Sergeant Knight
How about 10-20 other adventurers with varying backstories, but not all 10-20 are used, at the begining of each game, 5 or 6 random ones are selected.
Some names.
Train Robbers, Canibals.
Train Robbers, Canibals.
Phoboshobo
Sergeant
I dont know if youre going for realistic or artistic license in your mod but Ive got a new idea anyway.
People sometimes moved to the 'New World' and out West for religious freedom and isolationism. How about some ultra-religious group/cult led by a charismatic 'new messiah' or 'prophet'? Theres lots of new groups and splinter groups springing up even today so theres plenty of sources to base the faction on.
Im thinking of it being led by a man known as "The Reverend" with the ranks of the lords being like that in a church (so one might be called 'Bishop AppleWhite') and troops calling themselves things like 'tempolahs' or 'pal'dins'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrisitian_Cults_and_Religious_Discrimination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement
People sometimes moved to the 'New World' and out West for religious freedom and isolationism. How about some ultra-religious group/cult led by a charismatic 'new messiah' or 'prophet'? Theres lots of new groups and splinter groups springing up even today so theres plenty of sources to base the faction on.
Im thinking of it being led by a man known as "The Reverend" with the ranks of the lords being like that in a church (so one might be called 'Bishop AppleWhite') and troops calling themselves things like 'tempolahs' or 'pal'dins'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrisitian_Cults_and_Religious_Discrimination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement
Highlander
Marquis
I've been thinking about adding a KKK gang. Django, you know. But in WWII: China Battlefield there was even a heated controversy whether Japan should be playable. A racist gang like the KKK might lead to even more trouble.Phoboshobo 说:I dont know if youre going for realistic or artistic license in your mod but Ive got a new idea anyway.
People sometimes moved to the 'New World' and out West for religious freedom and isolationism. How about some ultra-religious group/cult led by a charismatic 'new messiah' or 'prophet'? Theres lots of new groups and splinter groups springing up even today so theres plenty of sources to base the faction on.
Im thinking of it being led by a man known as "The Reverend" with the ranks of the lords being like that in a church (so one might be called 'Bishop AppleWhite') and troops calling themselves things like 'tempolahs' or 'pal'dins'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrisitian_Cults_and_Religious_Discrimination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement
I less extreme religious group like you suggested would be possible, I guess.
Bobicus880
Sergeant
I once proposed a birth of a nation mod and I got a bunch of hate, BUT what people have to remember is at this time slavery was still being debated in the southwest, and the KKK was largely active here. They often had raiding parties, and formed a sort of private military. I vote yes to put the KKK in. Defend it with historical accuracy, and argue that if you don't like em' just kill them
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