twohandet weappons are to imba?
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Spec
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Been discussed many times already, feel free to search.
I think it's fine. Two handers are better against infantry, but one handers with shield allow you to protect yourself against archers, which I could say makes them "imba" since you can still fight quite well in melee with them. Especially now that kick-slashing has been made alot harder, there's basically no easy way around a shield users defense.
And in the hands of a good duellist, a one handed sword can be the most deadly weapon.
I think it's fine. Two handers are better against infantry, but one handers with shield allow you to protect yourself against archers, which I could say makes them "imba" since you can still fight quite well in melee with them. Especially now that kick-slashing has been made alot harder, there's basically no easy way around a shield users defense.
And in the hands of a good duellist, a one handed sword can be the most deadly weapon.
Ermm... I'm guessing English isn't Balean's first language.
That was hardly legible.
Anyways, Two-handed weapons are not unrealistic in their strength or their speed.
Does it not make sense? They are used with two hands instead of one, therefore a weapon that is twice as heavy would swing just as fast as a weapon of half that weight used in one hand.
Also, projectiles my friend, use them.
That was hardly legible.
Anyways, Two-handed weapons are not unrealistic in their strength or their speed.
Does it not make sense? They are used with two hands instead of one, therefore a weapon that is twice as heavy would swing just as fast as a weapon of half that weight used in one hand.
Also, projectiles my friend, use them.
Note that they aren't actually twice as heavy, and they're actually pretty freaking fast. That's definitely a heck of a lot faster than the Warband equivalent. 
Two handed weapons are definitely not overpowered. They'll punish you for mistakes, but they lack staying power in the hands of most players because of their lack of manual blocking ability.
Two handed weapons are definitely not overpowered. They'll punish you for mistakes, but they lack staying power in the hands of most players because of their lack of manual blocking ability.
Thank you NN, thank you very much.Night Ninja said:Note that they aren't actually twice as heavy, and they're actually pretty freaking fast. That's definitely a heck of a lot faster than the Warband equivalent.
Two handed weapons are definitely not overpowered. They'll punish you for mistakes, but they lack staying power in the hands of most players because of their lack of manual blocking ability.
Oyipggy
Master Knight
Night Ninja said:Note that they aren't actually twice as heavy, and they're actually pretty freaking fast. That's definitely a heck of a lot faster than the Warband equivalent.
That video doesn't resemble the combat in Warband in any way though. He's not swinging from his side, just twirling it. The only area that's even remotely close is the overhead strikes, and they look slow and clumsy.
I'm not saying that 2h weapons are too fast, merely that you have provided a bad example. Personally I just think 2h weapons need some sort of tweak as to their "reload" time.
CalCD
Sergeant
2handers are pretty balanced - they do good damage and are generally fast, but im starting to find that opponents with 1handers who feint and block well can be more dangerous than 2handers, since headshots will kill most people even with the weakest sword and 1h feinting is pretty hard to block, seeing as not many people use them that well...
Oyipggy said:
The strike that he's spamming is one of those that you can pull off with a two handed sword. It's called a zwerhau (spelling may vary, not sure on this) AFAIK and it can hit you pretty freaking hard. Note the sound it makes when the sword connects with the pell, you have to be clocking the pole pretty hard to produce that. I get what you mean, but there's a certain visual impact to that video.
This video might be more of what you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ucqArlmpk
Mabons
I dontno I thnik the wonhanders are wai bettah coz now coz of no kicknoobs so wonhanders do a lot of damage where twohandets dont
Oyipggy
Master Knight
Night Ninja said:The strike that he's spamming is one of those that you can pull off with a two handed sword. It's called a zwerhau (spelling may vary, not sure on this) AFAIK and it can hit you pretty freaking hard. Note the sound it makes when the sword connects with the pell, you have to be clocking the pole pretty hard to produce that. I get what you mean, but there's a certain visual impact to that video.
This video might be more of what you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ucqArlmpk
That's definitely a better example, yes.
possum
Knight
Seawied86 said:HOLY SMOKES! A RECRUIT THAT THINKS 2H ARE IMBALANCED!?!?!?!
Seriously though, a lack of a shield is a huge set back.
1. maybe he just did not post anything since he bought the game
2. 95% of the 2h users had a shield on their back, they were using it until they got close enough to pull out the 2h weapon and like many said in melee a 2h is superior to a 1h weapon.
ps. evading arrows is one of the easiest things to learn in this game. only the archer you cant see is dangerous... to a 2h user as well as to a 1h/shield user. an arrow in your butt doesnt care your balls beeing protected by a shield.
my opinion about the vids: the strikes are easy perdictable there: a left -> right strike is always following right -> left strike or the person was circling (again easy to perpare to see from where the next strike will come) to attack twice from the same direction. in the game you can strike twice from the same direction without the circling (using the momentum to preform a quick overhead strike without stopping the weapon), you just stop the strike, press a button and the weapon magically moves to the starting position again.
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HERE WE GO AGAIN
and i could not resist
I'm going to place good money this guy just bought the game after a recent steam sale and is very new to the game. And if 2h were just as strong as 1h, then 1h would be imbalanced. 2 handers have drawbacks. This has been debated to death. Any idiot who knows about the search function can see that plainly. End result: 2h are fine and there isn't a single valid argument against this point that I have yet to see.
possum said:
Yeah, but any sensible archer knows they're going to do this, so you just wait until they start switching and introduce their frontal lobes to an arrowhead.
And predicting someone trying to evade is equally easy to learn. The only difference being of course the shield still protects passively, so even if the shield bearer isn't paying any attention it's possible to hit the shield and do no damage.
