[TWC] Group Stage Week 2

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Gonna be throwaway ids anyway maybe check ip connection to the id from mercs and mm

Guess we'll go back to removing servers off the server list once everyone is there. Lucky that the individual can't count to 10 and does this during unimportant one sided groupstage matches instead of waiting for knockouts  :lol:
 
HKP said:
Gonna be throwaway ids anyway maybe check ip connection to the id from mercs and mm

Guess we'll go back to removing servers off the server list once everyone is there. Lucky that the individual can't count to 10 and does this during unimportant one sided groupstage matches instead of waiting for knockouts  :lol:

Normal warband servers don't track IP. Only the ID is shown with ofc the username. Unless Bullez has activated that for his non-mm servers.
 
Apollo~ said:
HKP said:
Gonna be throwaway ids anyway maybe check ip connection to the id from mercs and mm

Guess we'll go back to removing servers off the server list once everyone is there. Lucky that the individual can't count to 10 and does this during unimportant one sided groupstage matches instead of waiting for knockouts  :lol:

Normal warband servers don't track IP. Only the ID is shown with ofc the username. Unless Bullez has activated that for his non-mm servers.
I know thats why i said use his ID to check over the IP using MM and mercs database since they track both.
unlikely that ip wasnt change but worth a shot
 
HKP said:
Apollo~ said:
HKP said:
Gonna be throwaway ids anyway maybe check ip connection to the id from mercs and mm

Guess we'll go back to removing servers off the server list once everyone is there. Lucky that the individual can't count to 10 and does this during unimportant one sided groupstage matches instead of waiting for knockouts  :lol:

Normal warband servers don't track IP. Only the ID is shown with ofc the username. Unless Bullez has activated that for his non-mm servers.
I know thats why i said use his ID to check over the IP using MM and mercs database since they track both.
unlikely that ip wasnt change but worth a shot

Ye true, Could also try a whitelist system which uses all the signed up ID's from the tournament and only allows players to play on the ID added. Similar to how MM works only people with that ID and name can join that team but on a larger scale. Essentially, if you arent signed up/admin/streamer you can't join the server.

For tournaments like this which are roster and ID limited this would work flawlessly
 
HKP said:
that would make emergency subs nearly impossible. like anchor said if theres a mod that sets the spawnlimit to 8 for both teams that'd probably help a ton if the newest player to join the team can't spawn in

just dont crash 4head
 
Fogotten 9 - 5 Chimpz (Native Side)
https://gyazo.com/51539d46454f01852f5d98257fa4458f
https://gyazo.com/d5d6a43e7dfb6ff37a14192eae7591f6
https://gyazo.com/454c12187800939ec9410231fed104fc
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/772860333447860883/FB5F8A41976245D80B8886575F4521FB78389626/
 
Tom54p said:
Fogotten 9 - 5 Chimpz (Native Side)
https://gyazo.com/51539d46454f01852f5d98257fa4458f
https://gyazo.com/d5d6a43e7dfb6ff37a14192eae7591f6
https://gyazo.com/454c12187800939ec9410231fed104fc
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/772860333447860883/FB5F8A41976245D80B8886575F4521FB78389626/

Ggee
 
Not mad at the score since we won on NW anyway but may I ask why you are using forbidden modules during the official Donut?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790874731950129729/4339F8EDC945006CF2B8CDD39398E9FF6BF8211B/
 
LaPache said:
Not mad at the score since we won on NW anyway but may I ask why you are using forbidden modules during the official Donut?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790874731950129729/4339F8EDC945006CF2B8CDD39398E9FF6BF8211B/

I didn't know at all that using TGs arena NeoGK mod wasn't allowed. I had to install it because I train sometimes on TG Arena and it crashed a lot without the mod.
I didn't even know it gave any advantage I just realized after looking it does tell you the enemy amount in each class so I apologize really for that and won't use it again. I uploaded the pic yesterday to my steam free for everyone to see out of my own ignorance that it gave this tiny info and wasn't allowed lol so that proves Im not lying. I never cheated in my life even as a 10 year old I found cheating disgusting so please don't try to stain my name with that bs.  My steam pics (https://steamcommunity.com/id/4fourfour/screenshots/)

but yeah still that wouldn't have changed the score at all (I didn't even knew that info existed until you pointed this out)
I'll take a punishment and am sorry for my ignorance on this topic.

 
theDonut said:
LaPache said:
Not mad at the score since we won on NW anyway but may I ask why you are using forbidden modules during the official Donut?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790874731950129729/4339F8EDC945006CF2B8CDD39398E9FF6BF8211B/

I didn't know at all that using TGs arena NeoGK mod wasn't allowed. I had to install it because I train sometimes on TG Arena and it crashed a lot without the mod.
I didn't even know it gave any advantage I just realized after looking it does tell you the enemy amount in each class so I apologize really for that and won't use it again. I uploaded the pic yesterday to my steam free for everyone to see out of my own ignorance that it gave this tiny info and wasn't allowed lol so that proves Im not lying. I never cheated in my life even as a 10 year old I found cheating disgusting so please don't try to stain my name with that bs.  My steam pics (https://steamcommunity.com/id/4fourfour/screenshots/)

but yeah still that wouldn't have changed the score at all (I didn't even knew that info existed until you pointed this out)
I'll take a punishment and am sorry for my ignorance on this topic.
I never claimed you are a cheater. I only wanted to know if you aware that this isn't allowed or if it was only a mistake.
 
Frankly, it does not matter what your intentions were when using the mod. The fact is that you used a forbidden modification that gives you and your team a significant advantage. By both the rules and precedent (poor GrafBlade), that should result in a tournament ban and defaulting the rounds you played.
 
LaPache said:
theDonut said:
LaPache said:
Not mad at the score since we won on NW anyway but may I ask why you are using forbidden modules during the official Donut?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790874731950129729/4339F8EDC945006CF2B8CDD39398E9FF6BF8211B/

I didn't know at all that using TGs arena NeoGK mod wasn't allowed. I had to install it because I train sometimes on TG Arena and it crashed a lot without the mod.
I didn't even know it gave any advantage I just realized after looking it does tell you the enemy amount in each class so I apologize really for that and won't use it again. I uploaded the pic yesterday to my steam free for everyone to see out of my own ignorance that it gave this tiny info and wasn't allowed lol so that proves Im not lying. I never cheated in my life even as a 10 year old I found cheating disgusting so please don't try to stain my name with that bs.  My steam pics (https://steamcommunity.com/id/4fourfour/screenshots/)

but yeah still that wouldn't have changed the score at all (I didn't even knew that info existed until you pointed this out)
I'll take a punishment and am sorry for my ignorance on this topic.
I never claimed you are a cheater. I only wanted to know if you aware that this isn't allowed or if it was only a mistake.

It's okey man I understand your position then.

Watly said:
Frankly, it does not matter what your intentions were when using the mod. The fact is that you used a forbidden modification that gives you and your team a significant advantage. By both the rules and precedent (poor GrafBlade), that should result in a tournament ban and defaulting the rounds you played.

The fact that you want to benefit from this and take our win when we won fair and square only shows how you really are. Never took you for someone like that but the more you know I guess. Enjoy your internet points.
 
Watly said:
Frankly, it does not matter what your intentions were when using the mod. The fact is that you used a forbidden modification that gives you and your team a significant advantage. By both the rules and precedent (poor GrafBlade), that should result in a tournament ban and defaulting the rounds you played.
you must be joking. it really does have no impact on the round whatsoever since cav will spot the setup early on anyway (unless it's something like a cav spamm which might end up with the team camping in a corner - which I guess didn't happen)
you guys really need to calm down since this **** mod doesn't have any impact on how you perform as a player
 
theDonut said:
LaPache said:
theDonut said:
LaPache said:
Not mad at the score since we won on NW anyway but may I ask why you are using forbidden modules during the official Donut?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790874731950129729/4339F8EDC945006CF2B8CDD39398E9FF6BF8211B/

I didn't know at all that using TGs arena NeoGK mod wasn't allowed. I had to install it because I train sometimes on TG Arena and it crashed a lot without the mod.
I didn't even know it gave any advantage I just realized after looking it does tell you the enemy amount in each class so I apologize really for that and won't use it again. I uploaded the pic yesterday to my steam free for everyone to see out of my own ignorance that it gave this tiny info and wasn't allowed lol so that proves Im not lying. I never cheated in my life even as a 10 year old I found cheating disgusting so please don't try to stain my name with that bs.  My steam pics (https://steamcommunity.com/id/4fourfour/screenshots/)

but yeah still that wouldn't have changed the score at all (I didn't even knew that info existed until you pointed this out)
I'll take a punishment and am sorry for my ignorance on this topic.
I never claimed you are a cheater. I only wanted to know if you aware that this isn't allowed or if it was only a mistake.

It's okey man I understand your position then.

Watly said:
Frankly, it does not matter what your intentions were when using the mod. The fact is that you used a forbidden modification that gives you and your team a significant advantage. By both the rules and precedent (poor GrafBlade), that should result in a tournament ban and defaulting the rounds you played.

The fact that you want to benefit from this and take our win when we won fair and square only shows how you really are. Never took you for someone like that but the more you know I guess. Enjoy your internet points.
You lost 2 rounds to me and Python playing, how can your argument have any weight?
 
Habimana said:
Watly said:
Frankly, it does not matter what your intentions were when using the mod. The fact is that you used a forbidden modification that gives you and your team a significant advantage. By both the rules and precedent (poor GrafBlade), that should result in a tournament ban and defaulting the rounds you played.
you must be joking. it really does have no impact on the round whatsoever since cav will spot the setup early on anyway (unless it's something like a cav spamm which might end up with the team camping in a corner - which I guess didn't happen)
you guys really need to calm down since this **** mod doesn't have any impact on how you perform as a player

You clearly have no idea how the game works.
 
Watly said:
Habimana said:
Watly said:
Frankly, it does not matter what your intentions were when using the mod. The fact is that you used a forbidden modification that gives you and your team a significant advantage. By both the rules and precedent (poor GrafBlade), that should result in a tournament ban and defaulting the rounds you played.
you must be joking. it really does have no impact on the round whatsoever since cav will spot the setup early on anyway (unless it's something like a cav spamm which might end up with the team camping in a corner - which I guess didn't happen)
you guys really need to calm down since this **** mod doesn't have any impact on how you perform as a player

You clearly have no idea how the game works.

So are u saying u lost the match coz he had the TG mod? Maybe the NA players had TG mod it all makes sense now...  :fruity:

Also, apart from the cav rush Habi said. How else is this mod effective? Any cav with half a brain can scout out their classes quite easily.
 
I am clearly at no point arguing that we lost because they knew our setup without having to scout. A match is more complicated than "X cheated so we lost."

As a cav who has to scout regularly, I would honestly love to not have to do that. if I play it safe, I may not know their setup until the flag is up and they are set up. If I try learn their setup at all costs, I incur risk that can even get me killed against the top teams. Arguing that a feature that does scouting for you has no significant impact is aggravatingly stupid.
 
Whether or not this mod gives a real advantage it is still prohibited to use it. GrafBlade had this issue some time ago and I think that everyone believed him when he said he wasn't trying to cheat but the fact is we can't know so Donut will probably be banned even if he had no means to gain an unfair advantage. He may be asked to record his gameplay for the rest of the tournament or something like that though.
 
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