TW Sponsored WFaS Tournaments, not Warband?

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Zerilius 说:
Its combat system is very unique and way better than wfas.

Doesn't apply. It's the same system. The only changes come with pikes in WFaS: there's no overhead swing, instead it's an overhead thrust.

The problem with the combat system as far as WFaS is concerned is that you don't get to experience the melee system that was carried over from Warband very often. It's mostly ranged combat.
 
Orion 说:
Zerilius 说:
Its combat system is very unique and way better than wfas.

Doesn't apply. It's the same system. The only changes come with pikes in WFaS: there's no overhead swing, instead it's an overhead thrust.

The problem with the combat system as far as WFaS is concerned is that you don't get to experience the melee system that was carried over from Warband very often. It's mostly ranged combat.

That is what I meant. The ranged combat of wfas is not as much immersing as warband melee.
 
I do surf the forms quite a bit, but honestly this enrages me so that I felt that something must be posted. So here goes an attempt to translate whats in my head to the glowing screen infront of me.

I'm going to start of by first saying this:

You would honestly think that these "Devs" would want to give the praise to the game that started it all for them, not some stand alone mod based off the same engine. Warband already has a competitive scene and the metagame has hit a point where most people are proficient in all classes and can manual block decently. This isn't just another game I bought, beat and laid to rest like so many others. It's a love, its a changelle, it's infuriating somedays, and mostly a good time with good laughs.


Seeing this, knowing that they did this... will forever tarnish their repuation with the warband player base and it feels like a big insult to people who played warband since beta, people who bought warband in general, people who developed mods big and small alike. This isn't only a giant sh*t on warband but also people who want this game to be something. This game could go along away, a very very long way... Hell even could be a MLG for the kind of content and competitive game play that this offers. This game offers a simple beauty: melee combat, something very hard to do but when done right it is oh so sweet. I did buy WFaS, it does massively suck it has all the same problems as warband does (horse teleporting, falling through the world after being bumped/hit while falling/jumping, failure to reload firearm after being hit while firng ect.), and more so the melee combat feel clumsy at best (could just be me), smaller player base by far (only seen WFaS beat Warband on during Steam sales).

That sums up pretty much what I have to say.

For awhile now I've been thinking that if Taleworlds decides that it no longer cares for warband, as evident as the patches without notes or their for lack of patches, or simple fixes that almost any modder could do. I would bodly suggest that we were to make our own un-offical patches to fix various wall glitches, spots to get stuck, ect. Warband has a fairly large player base, not to mention amazing modders, who probably if given time and money could turn out a better turd then WFaS.

I hope my literal spew made a point about something somewhere.
 
I have pmed Yazzy (a dev?) with a link to this thread and a suggestion to release a patch to stop the crashing in MP that started in 1.42. I will keep you updated with the results.
 
iwasbannedwtf 说:
I have pmed Yazzy (a dev?) with a link to this thread and a suggestion to release a patch to stop the crashing in MP that started in 1.42. I will keep you updated with the results.
Results:

No Response.
 
Ash Tre 说:
iwasbannedwtf 说:
I have pmed Yazzy (a dev?) with a link to this thread and a suggestion to release a patch to stop the crashing in MP that started in 1.42. I will keep you updated with the results.
Results:

No Response.

Results:

Most likely never going to respond
 
I have a idea how about we get a admin to put this in the stickied threads so they have more of a chance of seeing it. But instead of putting this thread stickied we make a kinda form of our complaints. We then lock it sticky it and send it to all the devolopers.
 
orangeknite1 说:
I have a idea how about we get a admin to put this in the stickied threads so they have more of a chance of seeing it. But instead of putting this thread stickied we make a kinda form of our complaints. We then lock it sticky it and send it to all the devolopers.

The devs generally don't respond to 4 page threads that are half serious and really don't say much.

That being said, pretty sure TW did sponser the NC with like t-shirts or something, so it's not like they have been ignoring us. And who's to say they won't sponser other events in the future if they're... good... events.
 
I wasnt saying this thread i was saying we make like a 1post form of our complaints and LOCK IT. Then we sticky it
 
orangeknite1 说:
I wasnt saying this thread i was saying we make like a 1post form of our complaints and LOCK IT. Then we sticky it

They don't care if a couple of kids whine about what they're not doing.
 
Rhade 说:
As seen on Taleworlds' homepage, an advertisement for a With Fire and Sword tournament, backed by Nvidia and Taleworlds, is displayed across the page.

However, as a Warband player, I feel pretty alienated in that Taleworlds not only has not hosted a tournament for Warband in some years, but also has refused to fix glaring issues with Warband (steps on Port Assault that "sticks" players when they reach the top, the glitch jump over the roofs to the dragonhead spawn on Nord Town, etc).

I'd really like to see more Taleworlds involvement in Warband, especially if they have the ability and capital to fund a tournament for WFaS, then I feel they should be able to pay similiar attention to Warband.

It is rather lamentable that many simple bug fixes seem to have been forgotten/ignored, but I don't think they are obliged to provide regular tournaments for the game. They are doing now for WFaS what they did for Warband earlier; giving it a kickstart. If either game isn't good enough in the long run to keep the player base without short term attractions like official tournaments, then the multiplayer game obviously isn't that great (mods can provide new variety when needed to keep things fresh, but if the combat is good enough it will keep people playing). Personally I have no interest in tournaments, yet I regularly played Warband until both Native and most of my favourite mods lost their playerbase (e.g. 1866). I still play MP quite often though, it is a fun sideshow to singleplayer and other games. Perhaps though the issue for those wanting a tournament is that competitive play is seen as the goal for the series, and one that needs to be maintained? I would hope that Taleworlds don't agree.

For me, it seems many people in this board regard multiplayer as more important than singleplayer, which makes me sad and I worry for the future potential of the singleplayer game in the next instalment of M&B. I hope too much focus isn't given to multiplayer; the game is at heart singleplayer, and very unique. It seems from this thread that many people are relatively pleased with what is essentially a medieval version of an online FPS; the melee fighting is of course very different, but the pace and atmosphere is much the same. Whereas SP can provide skirmishes which make me feel like being in a 'real' medieval skirmish, MP rarely if ever comes close. I don't think it is worth spending too much time on multiplayer unless they revamp it completely. If they simply devote people to organising tournaments and other gimmicks on a regular basis, then I think those people would be better off being assigned to developing singleplayer.
 
DanAngleland 说:
Rhade 说:
As seen on Taleworlds' homepage, an advertisement for a With Fire and Sword tournament, backed by Nvidia and Taleworlds, is displayed across the page.

However, as a Warband player, I feel pretty alienated in that Taleworlds not only has not hosted a tournament for Warband in some years, but also has refused to fix glaring issues with Warband (steps on Port Assault that "sticks" players when they reach the top, the glitch jump over the roofs to the dragonhead spawn on Nord Town, etc).

I'd really like to see more Taleworlds involvement in Warband, especially if they have the ability and capital to fund a tournament for WFaS, then I feel they should be able to pay similiar attention to Warband.

It is rather lamentable that many simple bug fixes seem to have been forgotten/ignored, but I don't think they are obliged to provide regular tournaments for the game. They are doing now for WFaS what they did for Warband earlier; giving it a kickstart. If either game isn't good enough in the long run to keep the player base without short term attractions like official tournaments, then the multiplayer game obviously isn't that great (mods can provide new variety when needed to keep things fresh, but if the combat is good enough it will keep people playing). Personally I have no interest in tournaments, yet I regularly played Warband until both Native and most of my favourite mods lost their playerbase (e.g. 1866). I still play MP quite often though, it is a fun sideshow to singleplayer and other games. Perhaps though the issue for those wanting a tournament is that competitive play is seen as the goal for the series, and one that needs to be maintained? I would hope that Taleworlds don't agree.

For me, it seems many people in this board regard multiplayer as more important than singleplayer, which makes me sad and I worry for the future potential of the singleplayer game in the next instalment of M&B. I hope too much focus isn't given to multiplayer; the game is at heart singleplayer, and very unique. It seems from this thread that many people are relatively pleased with what is essentially a medieval version of an online FPS; the melee fighting is of course very different, but the pace and atmosphere is much the same. Whereas SP can provide skirmishes which make me feel like being in a 'real' medieval skirmish, MP rarely if ever comes close. I don't think it is worth spending too much time on multiplayer unless they revamp it completely. If they simply devote people to organising tournaments and other gimmicks on a regular basis, then I think those people would be better off being assigned to developing singleplayer.

Well this is the multiplayer board.

Though MnB is first and foremost a single player game. Multiplayer was just an extra thing
 
Mr.X 说:
orangeknite1 说:
I have a idea how about we get a admin to put this in the stickied threads so they have more of a chance of seeing it. But instead of putting this thread stickied we make a kinda form of our complaints. We then lock it sticky it and send it to all the devolopers.

The devs generally don't respond to 4 page threads that are half serious and really don't say much.

That being said, pretty sure TW did sponser the NC with like t-shirts or something, so it's not like they have been ignoring us. And who's to say they won't sponser other events in the future if they're... good... events.
The T-shirts were never recieved, anyway that was only a prize for the first NC which was over a year... Nothing since then I don't believe and even then they cocked it up.
 
He was looking at the thread earlier. I sent him a pm last night, as well as several other PRT's. It would be nice if Taleworlds were to toss a couple of dollars into a tournament's pot or something, however unlikely.
 
I saw him viewing it shortly after I got home from school; so if I had to guess I'd say that he read it and will likely provide a response tomorrow or early next week after discussing it with Armagan and co.

Alternatively, they could just ignore it again.  :sad:
 
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