training grounds.... are they useful?

[olliewilliams01]

Hey, so i've always wondered, is it worth it to stop by the training grounds to train your troops? does the sparring and such get a worthwhile amount of xp, or is it smarter to just pump up your trainer skill and camp for a while? are training grounds mostly just for the tutorial for new players, or do they have a use later in the game?

 

[Lord Brutus]

Training grounds are extremely useful early game when you can level up recruits to level three or four in a day or so. Later in game, not so much.

 

[rapier17]

Later in game you will hopefully have a few points in the trainer skill, so as you level up your new recruits train faster and every time you get to midnight if you're hgih enough to train your troops they'll automatically recieve experience.
Throw Lezalit in to your party for fun, level him a bit and you'll have your troops levelled in no time at all. Other than that I can only repeat what Lord Brutus said - early game training grounds are useful but later on you won't need them.

 

[Rec0n412]

Yes, they are very usefull. especially in the beginning when your recruits are quite vulnerable to the higher tier bandits(Sea raiders if your using nords, forest bandits, steppe bandits, ect.). I generally find that 3 sparring sessions, against two recruits each time, is enough to level 3-5 recruits to a tier 1 infantry/whatever comes next in that troop tree.

Training grounds are also useful if you cannot find any bandits to fight and need to level up some lower tier infantry. Be advised, the quickest way to level a soldier is to spar against that soldier. Sparring seems to give out more xp if the fight lasts for an appreciable amount of time(you don't one shot your opponents).

 

[olliewilliams01]

Hmm, alright cool. Yeah on the char file i always use i have a really high trainer level, so I guess in my case its just simpler to camp. That is very good to know though in case i start out with a fresh character at some point. It does kind of suck that you actually have to spar with your troops to give them any XP though, i mean that wastes a lot of (real world) time.
about that, I know this isn't the suggestion board, but just thought i'd put my two cents out there: maybe someone should mod it so you have a "wait" option at the training grounds, where you're troops will get like 2x as much xp than if you were just sitting in the middle of a forrest? Makes more sense that your army would get better trained at an actual training facility than chilling around a campfire.

ahh well, thanks for the replies guys.

 

[tashim72]

You try for yourself...

Take 100 Recruits and 2 tier-5 units, like Swadian/Rhodok Sergeants.
Do 3 sparrings against these 2 Sergeants. You'll then see that 100 Recruits will get monster-exp each time.

...Training Fields are also useful in such situations: you've got 80 out of 100 tier-2 men ready to be upgraded to tier-3, but you want it to be all 100, so then you quickly train them up in fields... now it's all 100 ready to become tier-3, you upgrade - now, at next Midnight you'll passively-train all your 100 troops to tier-4.   ..The bigger number of one batch - the more numbers are trained per one sycle.

 

[MetGreDKo]

Training grounds are extremely useful early game when you can level up recruits to level three or four in a day or so. Later in game, not so much.

Okay, I keep seeing this mentioned here but I'm pathetic. I mean, I have three or four companions at training 8 so I'm not heavily dependant on this but... how do you use training grounds like this? I only ever see the options for myself to practice.

Edit: Doh, missed the post above.

 

[Bregil Ulthranson]

Sparring seems to give out more xp if the fight lasts for an appreciable amount of time(you don't one shot your opponents).

It also helps if you don't take damage as well iirc.

 

[Roach]

I'm sure your trainer skill has a bearing on how much xp your troops get while sparring too. Hearsay and rumour but it would be nice.

 

[killer-blead]

I'm sure your trainer skill has a bearing on how much xp your troops get while sparring too. Hearsay and rumour but it would be nice.

Thus is semi true. It has some effect but not heavily and only after a certain amount of sparring matches where the game will automatically put you back in the world map.

 

[DefenderoftheCrown]

For me personally, the grounds were usefull in learning how to fight effectively in dueling situations.  I'm fairly new to the game, so it was challenging at first.  I kept practicing until I was able to fight on the highest difficulty. 

 

[Orion]

It will also help you with group fights later on, if you take on 3 or 4 opponents at once (I always do 4).

You try for yourself...

Take 100 Recruits and 2 tier-5 units, like Swadian/Rhodok Sergeants.
Do 3 sparrings against these 2 Sergeants. You'll then see that 100 Recruits will get monster-exp each time.

Keep in mind that's total experience gained for that troop type. So if you have 100 recruits and they get 2500 experience, that means each individual troop is getting 25. Whichever units you spar with get bonus experience on top of their portion of the total for that troop type.

 

[Captain_Octavius]

Keep in mind that's total experience gained for that troop type. So if you have 100 recruits and they get 2500 experience, that means each individual troop is getting 25. Whichever units you spar with get bonus experience on top of their portion of the total for that troop type.

Troops are counted as stacks, so it's more like that one half gets all the experience, and the other half nothing, rather than 25 experience per individual. Unless you were merely talking about the calculation of total experience gained for a training session?

 

[Trimaran]

i love hiding behind the spectators for some reason i find training reaally amusing. Lol :d training same level and kind troops all at the same time like 50 recruits is easy in every situation, not only in training grounds. And pump up the trainer skill in all ur companions as a rule of thumb!

 

[Ludial]

trainer skill: if you have really high trainer and lots of companions with really high trainer getting recruits to tier 5 takes you 5 days(one tier per day, that's how the skill works). The problem is with getting there.
Training field: three days straight of bashing skulls turns a mob of recruits into an army of tier 4 and 5 troops. Plus giving you some points in melee proficiencies and xp. Plus not needing companions or even trainer skill.

So to sum it up:
trainer skill takes a lot of time to get to the point where you can actually train up armies within days(can happen late game but is sorta optional). Main advantage is that you can train on the move with it(so no wasting time camping!)

training field is always good as long as you have a couple of in-game days and patience. You don't need skill points for it(can use them for something else), get a tangible benefit from it(prof+xp, not much but still something) and can do it without companions.

Personally, I much prefer the training field. I get to practice my melee skills. Bashing heads is always more fun than waiting.