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Tower siege queue
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Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
So the AI still can't use towers and ladders in the latest updates?
Post your tower ques people, this bug is so in your face every siege I can't believe it's not patched yet
1.5.0
A reverse ladder bug, where they actually avoided it altogether
Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
It's probably the most glaringly immersion breaking bug.
They should climb up the tower, fill the space at the top, and then lower the gangplank and charge.
There must be a reason why this hasn't been fixed since the game came out, what is it about the ladders that the AI can't handle?
Maybe it'd be better if they all had ramps like the smaller towers, or an internal staircase sort of design.
They should climb up the tower, fill the space at the top, and then lower the gangplank and charge.
There must be a reason why this hasn't been fixed since the game came out, what is it about the ladders that the AI can't handle?
Maybe it'd be better if they all had ramps like the smaller towers, or an internal staircase sort of design.
It is truly perplexing that this does not work as it should, at this stage of development.
If we look back at our beloved 2016 videos; the one about the defense, the bots fill the gap before the footbridge goes down. In the attack video, do not
The AI team will surely be working their asses off, however my impression is that as the months go by, the AI turns out to be ... let's say "less lucid". I usually play in Challenging SP and the trolling that you can carry out with the AI in a 1vs1 is awful. With the new patch, I'm sorry to say ... I do not see a significant improvement despite the intensive testing I've done; rather the opposite ... the same flaws and inconsistencies as always.
But... either they are having problems with the computational capacity/optimization balance, or I can't explain it to myself.
If we look back at our beloved 2016 videos; the one about the defense, the bots fill the gap before the footbridge goes down. In the attack video, do not
The AI team will surely be working their asses off, however my impression is that as the months go by, the AI turns out to be ... let's say "less lucid". I usually play in Challenging SP and the trolling that you can carry out with the AI in a 1vs1 is awful. With the new patch, I'm sorry to say ... I do not see a significant improvement despite the intensive testing I've done; rather the opposite ... the same flaws and inconsistencies as always.
But... either they are having problems with the computational capacity/optimization balance, or I can't explain it to myself.
Maybe this was all just scripted? Maybe that´s why the development took so long?
Like 4 years to get this video
The defenders at the gate are also really defending and not just standing there? What happened to this stuff?
For real, the siege from the videos looks "better" than any siege I´ve played in Bannerlord?
Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
The tower in that video has a ramp not ladders, I think that's the reason it appears to work well.
It wasn't something scripted (let's not go hitting with the hammer without a reason eitherMaybe this was all just scripted? Maybe that´s why the development took so long?
Like 4 years to get this video
The defenders at the gate are also really defending and not just standing there? What happened to this stuff?
For real, the siege from the videos looks "better" than any siege I´ve played in Bannerlord?
); they had plenty of material back then:True. Have you tried how they currently work in the game?
But why was the AI able to defend the gate in 2016 but not in 2020? In my sieges I can just go behind them and kill them all most of the time.It wasn't something scripted (let's not go hitting with the hammer without a reason either
I don´t get it?
Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
I'm still on 1.4.2 but the ramp towers used against level 1 walls have generally always worked better. It's ladders which are the problem.
Well, a picture is worth a thousand words.
When the tower is moving, there is no one on it; this should not be so.
When the tower reaches the wall, there is no one on it; this should not be so.
When the attackers start to rise the ramp it is so late that the defenders have taken the tower and are practically outside the walls.
I don't see what works better... honestly.
Julio-Claudian
Sergeant Knight
All of that is true. The tower should be full before it starts moving.
Well, a picture is worth a thousand words.
When the tower is moving, there is no one on it; this should not be so.
When the tower reaches the wall, there is no one on it; this should not be so.
When the attackers start to rise the ramp it is so late that the defenders have taken the tower and are practically outside the walls.
I don't see what works better... honestly.
What works better is that the units can actually move up the ramp without much difficulty but aren't even able to climb towers most of the time.
There's a mod called 'Fix Siege AI' which gives the player full control over siege battles. By using this and micromanaging you can actually get men to climb the ladder towers a lot more smoothly but it's tedious and clunky and still doesn't always work.
NLCRich
Squire
I agree. This is such a major issue with the gameplay. It really destroys the level of fun in sieges. A lot of friends who were playing rage quit because of this issue and never came back. I agree it is the siege towers with ladders that are the biggest issue. What I don't understand is why they can climb the usual ladders without nearly the same issue. I think @ourgekj hit the nail on the head. It is because the ladders are too close together the a.i. blocks eachother and it doesn't work. So perhaps they just need to widen these higher wall level towers so that there can be a bit more space between the ladders... Someone should try this when mod tools come out.
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