Exactly, if these answers made any rational sense it would be far different.I think people react like this because it's almost become a trademark that TW always give these extremely vague answers to even the most minor thing... I mean why not just use the old for PC? everyone likes that one better. Then they can use their radial one for consoles for all I care. Instead we get this "might change and improve in the future" stuff...
I think people react like this because it's almost become a trademark that TW always give these extremely vague answers to even the most minor thing... I mean why not just use the old for PC? everyone likes that one better. Then they can use their radial one for consoles for all I care. Instead we get this "might change and improve in the future" stuff...
I get where you're coming from, but they've announced themselves game will leave EA fairly soon. If they don't know themselves what will be in the game or not at this point, that's just crazy. On the other side I believe they just give us these "maybe" answers to not cause more frustration.They themselves dont have it all pinned out, I believe. So anything they say can and will be held against them in the court of General Discussion. Then if things were to change, they’re not targeted by the mobs but can pull their hands off and say: I said “maybe”, right?
Couple of things could eliminate that behaviour: we could not pin and screenshot every post to use later, they could become more at ease and thus less vage.
One cant go without the other though, but thats a very long and near impossible process.
You have won the internet and the forum drama. Oops, hands up, you caught me red handed while i am lying, officer. Unfortunately for me, i am now taking a step back because of your patronizing language and i will never use humour again in my life, apologizing from any developers and forum moderators got traumatized by my unrespectful and childish comments follows as such: [redacted as i don't want to repeat those crimes against humanity].....
Yes, but what if they have to ask for permission at a meeting? That would take days and they might not even go through with it because they don't think it's important or don't want the aggravation of having to propose and defend something on behalf of some players.That being said, something like the command menu should be possible to change in a couple of hours... It's really not a that complicated thing
That is exactly what I had feared already. Weird to see it said plainly like thisThat would take days and they might not even go through with it because they don't think it's important or don't want the aggravation of having to propose and defend something on behalf of some players.
You misunderstand my intent. I was not dishonest in what I said about it. I stated here that I was making fun of what MRay said, but not the individual himself:To me, it was pretty clearly pointing towards his previous post, as his own sentences from it:
-"Improvements can be made", and
-"If you have more suggestions for the current version, I invite you to the UI suggestions section"
...were paraphrased with a mocking tone, only with the "TW" label instead of his username, only 4 and 5 posts after his, respectively.
That being said, this is still mild stuff and that's why i just simply wrote a post here, so it stays that way and doesen't repeat, at least not in this form of what i understood it as.
It's one thing to make fun of a dev and his answers, but then at least be honest about your intentions when called out on it.
If i am wrong, however, and both of you are being honest (like Lord Grindelvald was), then MRay will read this and be sure he wasn't personally ridiculed - no harm done, other than me falsely calling something out, in which case i would apologize (but as of now i am not convinced one bit for reasons stated two paragraphs ago).
If you are not, the verbal warning from my previous post in this thread stands as a reminder for what is not desirable, in case it repeats, which would make it not be "mild stuff" anymore, and further action has to take place.
But I am not attacking him. I'm principally attacking TW's communication, but if you want to look at the nitty-gritty of it, sure I'm also attacking the dry statement he made. I'm sure he's a great guy, but most of the developers that make statements seem to be strictly limited in what they can say. I do not put the blame on him, I put the blame on the company/management for their overall communication policy. Duh's communication was similar when responding to the community roadmap. People made jokes about his communication style, including me, yet this was not deemed inappropriate behavior, nor seen as a personal attack upon Duh. I don't see what the problem is now, all of a sudden? I do not see how making a lighthearted joke about someone's statement is "flaming and ganging up on a developer" as you put it. If you mock or make fun of what someone says, generally it's not taken as a personal attack on their character, rather, a tease and/or feedback criticizing the statement itself. I did not see myself as attacking MRay.If somehow making fun of what someone has said is equivalent to attacking, flaming, and making someone extremely uncomfortable, then I don't know why someone would ever participate around on the internet.
It wasn't a matter-of-fact statement, it was an analogy to your argument that my joke was naturally supposed to make MRay "uncomfortable".You too are free to report whatever post of mine makes you feel that way, in which case someone (not me) will handle it appropriately.
Yes, but what if they have to ask for permission at a meeting? That would take days and they might not even go through with it because they don't think it's important or don't want the aggravation of having to propose and defend something on behalf of some players.
We really need a more direct channel to TW decision makers to tell them when they are making an obvious mistake, and not rely on individual devs. Perhaps Dejan is such a channel, so if anyone wants to argue this on behalf of all the players, please go ahead and flag him.
(edit: by obvious mistakes I mean the removal of the old PC-friendly formation interface and the removal of the battle size slider)
As a matter of fact, as i was saying earlier, i do agree with the sentiment towards TW communication strategy.People made jokes about his communication style, including me, yet this was not deemed inappropriate behavior, nor seen as a personal attack upon Duh.
We are merely discussing this, because i saw it like i did and stood in his defence.I don't see what the problem is now, all of a sudden?
No hard feelings! A happy ending always makes it worth it. I also apologize for initially responding to you harshly.You have explained very well now, I myself apologize to you for misunderstanding your intent and putting you on the spot, and I'm very glad you clarified your position to MRay, so this little back n forth was worth it.
@MostBlunted is our one true savior. For our sake he was flamed, suspended and banhammered. He has spoken through the sock accounts. He will come again in glory to judge the modders and the devs.he will return like jesus christ and help us continue this holy fight against the infidels