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It wasn't because the first time you looked was day and the next night?
I think it is this way since you can't really kill Saruman, he is hidding in the Orthanc now, an unpenetrable tower, and will be guarded by the Ents.Ningauble said:So helping Rohan we had indeed been winning big battles against Isengard field armies, but Saruman was still holding out with an intimidating 600 - odd garrison in Isengard, let alone several 200 - plus Uruk Hai armies ( with their several camp bases also yet to be conquered ) back in the field, and not to mention the Dunlendings ....... it looked like we still had our work cut out for us ! Then ( c day 140 ) we beat his Guard Legion in the field and suddenly " Isengard crushed ", and in ruins !
This victory sure was an anticlimax; I was hoping to personally cut down Saruman ( why not, like any other M&B lord ? ) in an end -game siege of Isengard - Orthanc !
Is my seemingly premature " faction destroyed " experience somehow a bug, or can it be the intended / possible event " scripting " ?
Either way, can it be " fixed " / tweaked to play out in a more satisfying / interesting way ie Saruman's last stand, holed up in Isengard ?
Since Sauron has no physical form at that time, most probably not ^^Ningauble said:Well, as I said, up to that moment it looked like Isengard still had a lot of fight left .........
And anyway, seeing that the player's game overhauls Lore from the start ( you can even play as the Dark Side and win ! ), it makes much more sense to deliver the coup de grace oneself ............. does this mean that, at the end, I also cannot actually face, and slay, Sauron ( a la The Second Age, was it not ? ) ?
So, a touch too abstract ?
In my last "good" game, from what I recall, the Gates of Morannon were taken by assault without defeating all of the last aimlessly roving war parties, and Mordor was defeated immediately, since they had no fortresses left (not counting the Dark Tower itself), the first faction to be defeated, much to my surprise. The roving war party of Isengard lasted a surprisingly long time, and Moria, the last surviving enemy faction aside from it, was just about to fall before Isengard suddenly vanished, presumably due to an Ent attack, but there was no in-game notification of that event.Knez said:The only way to defeat sauron is to destroy the only thing which binds him to this world, aka his ring. You can't fight the shadow. Frodo and Sam, on the other hand have a way to destroy it, which is his own ring. Once the faction strenght for Mordor goes low, you will see 3 or 4 mordor war parties, around 300, 400 men each with numerous nazguls somewhere close to the black gate. By dealing with them, you give those two little hobbits a chance to sneak by unnoticed. Consider it to be similar to the fight of morranon, except you might face them with your party alone, unlike in the books where it was rohan and gondor war hosts, or should i say "people of the middle earth but without elves and dwarves, basically men only".