Throwng Marraiage and Lords

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Gaurav

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Hey guys. I got some minor qustions and 1 major 1.

Q1. I am currently at a point in game where i  can maintain a 80 strong elite army mainly due to earning close to 6K with my  enterprises and using MBTweak to reduce wages. So i have decided to join a faction. But first i wanna get married. To Lady Ruwa. There are a few problems though. First that she is a conventional maiden so i have to woo her brother and father too. And those too guys seem to change factions like a anything.
Joining their faction isnt a feasible option because within a few days they will have again changed factions.

So,
1. If it possible to marry without owning a fief or belonging to a faction?
2. Or is it possible to elope with a conventional maiden?
3. Another problem are constant wars. There are hardly any feasts so i am simply am unable to find her to be a ardent admirer.
4. Is it possible to do the following:
Woo Ruwa to almost 50. Then capture Durquaba from Khergits. Then immediately get married and join Sarranids?

Q2. Below what morale lvl does companion party skills stop working?

Q3. And is this some sort of bug? Not only Ruwa's father Ghanwa and brother Tilisman, but almost all the lords are indicted of treason and keep changing faction.

Q4. Lastly Jarids. Currently i have only 1 char and he is an archer. I have been considering creating a second character and making him a thrower with 10 power throw. So as a test i created a character and used cheats to give him 10 power throw and a bag of jarids to see how he would fare. So i go up against the 4 looters in the 1st mission and tell my recruits to retreat so that i can battle by myself and check the effectiveness.
As expected i kill each looter with 1 throw. But the damage is nowhere near as anticipated.
A jarid does 45 damage and per power throw point must do 14% additional damage. So i calculated with 10 power throw it should easily go above 150. Yet the damage i did to looters never went beyond 70 except for a headshot at point blank range.
Thats wrong isnt it? Throwing weapons have max damage while sacrificing accuracy and range. So how is that i did less than 100 damage with jarids and power throw 10?
 
AFAIK, PT gives 10% rather than 14% per point, so ideally you'd be doing around 90-100 damage. Also, proficiency plays an important role in deciding damage. So if you start with default proficiency and the looter has armor, that number makes sense.
 
i only say what i am sure about so
q1 option 4 -> no
q3 -> its a annoying feature/bug downloading diplomacy solved this problem for me + adding much needed features.
q4 ->everything said is correct i just add a little more.
test more but only on a same unit (looter is a good choice), received damage is not that much easy to calculate, each part of body have a damage modifier/ head receive more damage, body receive normal damage, leg receive less damage (that's why we don't care about leg armor but search for the best head armor). there is also some random factor that can make a lot of difference.
 
Thanks but isnt it still supposed to do at least 100 damage. I manage to hit 1 headshot and others in shoulder/chest. So it should have crossed 100.
Omegaweapon>I thougt diplomacy+POBD was not yet released for 1.153?

And can someone tell me how much morale is necessary for companion skills to work?

 
good thing is diplomacy is not made for 1.53, because this bug/feature come with this patch or so i heard.
diplomacy is compatible with 1.53 but sadly you must start a new game. i use it without any problem.

Suspicious Pilgrim 说:
Keep it high and it'll be fine, I guess. I've never heard of that feature.
i heard it but didn't see it, since i guess they will leave before this happen, except if you use tweak mb but sadly i dunno anything exactly.

about damage here its: 45 base jarid damage 10 power throw mean 100% mean 90 damage, now even 10 armor it mean about 10% reduction - 10 (very rough calculation) so maximum damage u can see is 71 damage. so its correct (roughly).
edit: you forced me to calculate i will never forgive you.
90 - .65 * 10 = 83.5 with some OTHER calculation it reduce to 77 damage if EVERYTHING is in maximum

now its the best damage you can deliver if your target have only 10 armor.

if he have 20 armor -> 90 - 0.65 *20 = 77 now with some other calculation (armor have 2 function that reduce the damage) damage reduce to 69
still its the maximum damage you can deliver.

conclusion: you were lucky to even see 70 damage in the first place. pray to god.
 
So Diplomacy will solve the lord treason prob? Nice. Is Diplomacy vs PBOD compatible with MBTweaks? Can i dowload Diplo and still use MBTweaks to change wages so that i pay only 300 for 80 Huscarls?
 
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