This is history.

[rejenorst]

I would have thought a 100 people would jump on my last post and quote **** it to death while demanding I should slash my wrists before I ever touch a keyboard again.

 

[arbites_augmented]

I'm glad 220 people get to tell the rest of us what to do. 

the question is: who tells them what to do? Gotta go further up the chain me thinks.

No one. Just every couple of years we get to either reelect them or elect someone with almost the exact same views as them.

You telling me lobbyists have no influence? Cause I'm telling you a bit of good old fashion greece behind the the wheels of politics does more than 50% of Americans or congress put together in terms of deciding policies.


Now I know what your thinking: Rejenorst don't be absurd you crazy drugged out ass merchant!

But bear with me while I rip your little world asunder into a magical frost cake.

Money=power! And for a government that doesn't own its own monetary system (the federal reserve which is privatized) the power lies with those who have the cash to get **** done.

I'm not talking conspiracy btw just the nature of money.
 

I demand that you slash your wrists and never touch a keyboard again!

EDIT: Damn, ninja.

 

[rejenorst]

I demand that you slash your wrists and never touch a keyboard again!

EDIT: Damn, ninja.

Your demands are met with the due attention that they deserve.

 

[EdwardWellcraft]

I'm glad 220 people get to tell the rest of us what to do. 

the question is: who tells them what to do? Gotta go further up the chain me thinks.

No one. Just every couple of years we get to either reelect them or elect someone with almost the exact same views as them.

You telling me lobbyists have no influence? Cause I'm telling you a bit of good old fashion greece behind the the wheels of politics does more than 50% of Americans or congress put together in terms of deciding policies.


Now I know what your thinking: Rejenorst don't be absurd you crazy drugged out ass merchant!

But bear with me while I rip your little world asunder into a magical frost cake.

Money=power! And for a government that doesn't own its own monetary system (the federal reserve which is privatized) the power lies with those who have the cash to get **** done.

I'm not talking conspiracy btw just the nature of money.

Oh see I thought you were suggesting us citizens had any power in the Federal government, I was just refuting that. I agree with you.

 

[CryoNomad]

"This is history." Said Mr Obama 7 hours ago.

The healthcare reform was passed, and if the Senate pass their side of the bill, the USA will have taken a significant step towards social equality, not just in their own country but as an example for the entire world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8348941.stm

Never going to pass the Senate. It can win with the votes of the mob, but it won't win with equal representation.

Except that the Senate is the most unequal part of Congress, so I don't know where you're pulling that out of your ass.

Equal representation from the states.

 

[Mage246]

As yes, the states. Those entities with randomly drawn borders, widely disparate population numbers, vastly different economies, and so on and so forth. Clearly the fairest possible means of representation is to put all 50 of them into a room and give them each the same number of votes. Equal number of votes does not mean that they are in truth equal. Rhode Island, for example, which is a state so small that it really encompasses only a single *island*, gets the same number of Senate votes as California, a state with an economy so large that it dwarfs that of almost every country in the world (if it was its own country, it would have the 10th largest economy!).

 

[Tibertus]

As yes, the states. Those entities with randomly drawn borders, widely disparate population numbers, vastly different economies, and so on and so forth. Clearly the fairest possible means of representation is to put all 50 of them into a room and give them each the same number of votes. Equal number of votes does not mean that they are in truth equal. Rhode Island, for example, which is a state so small that it really encompasses only a single *island*, gets the same number of Senate votes as California, a state with an economy so large that it dwarfs that of almost every country in the world (if it was its own country, it would have the 10th largest economy!).

That's why we also have the house of representatives.

 

[Elenmmare]

That's actually quite an astute observation.

I'm assuming you have a full brain between the three of you?

1st: If you can't partake in a discussion without insulting, then don't. I don't like myself when I insult people, it's not nice.

2nd: You seem to assume that I want democrats to rule America - I don't give a ****, I don't live there, and I most likely never will. My view is that the American system isn't as democratic as it's advertised to be (even if this means republicans would be in power), and I can see the irony of this.

Never thought I would hear those things from him....unless I need to be more cynical. I guess I do, but I still don't like the way the U.S. is changing, and I probably care because I'm Canadian, we share the single longest border in the world with them.

We share the single largest border? So you mean, we share the only border and it is the largest by default? Either your sentence skips over Mexico, or it is redundant

 

[Archonsod]

No, he means there is only one border between the US and Canada. Nations can have several borders with each other you know

 

[Mage246]

No, he means there is only one border between the US and Canada.

Well, that's odd. Since there's 2 borders actually. One between the lower 48 and Canada, and one between Alaska and Canada.

 

[Tibertus]

He meant that of all the countries in the world, the US and Canada shares the longest border. 

 

[Mage246]

I know that, I'm just trying to figure out what Arch was saying.

 

[rejenorst]

I know that, I'm just trying to figure out what Arch was saying.

COULD IT BE THAT ARCH MADE A MISTAKE IN HIS INFINITE MYSTICAL WISDOM?!?! COULD IT BEEEEEE?!?!?! TIS AN EVIL OMEN MY CHILDREN! BEWARE!!!!

 

[Mage246]

ZOMG NO I WONT BELIEVE IT!!! IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'VE LEARNED FROM STUPID FORUM LEMMINGS, ARCH IS INFALLIBLE AND SHOULD BE LISTENED TO IN ALL THINGS!!! NOOOOOOO!!!

*snip*

That's why we also have the house of representatives.

Gee, really? Seeing as how this whole conversation doesn't make sense except as a comparison to the House (and how it voted), I wonder how that thought could have occurred to you. He was saying that the Senate was more equal than the House, after all.

 

[rejenorst]

ZOMG NO I WONT BELIEVE IT!!! IF THERE'S ANYTHING I'VE LEARNED FROM STUPID FORUM LEMMINGS, ARCH IS INFALLIBLE AND SHOULD BE LISTENED TO IN ALL THINGS!!! NOOOOOOO!!!

I want names and addresses.

 

[Archonsod]

Well, that's odd. Since there's 2 borders actually. One between the lower 48 and Canada, and one between Alaska and Canada.

Yeah, but who counts Alaska as anything but a vacation home for Polar Bears? The US & Canada have two borders, but one of those borders happens to be the longest border with the US in the world, poor bastards. The point I was trying to get across being that since you can have multiple borders, the use of "single" to denote that this is an individual border is correct. Like saying "the single largest pie in the world" does not denote that you have the only pie in the world, but that of all the pies in the world the pie you have happens to be the largest individual pie.

 

[rejenorst]

 

[Mage246]

I like pie.

 

[rejenorst]

Did Arch... did he... just hit us in the face with a pie...?

 

[FrisianDude]

Now I know what your thinking: Rejenorst don't be absurd you crazy drugged out ass merchant!

HOLY ****, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!