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Someone who hasn't really looked across the forum, or wasn't there at the time, would say that people weren't polite. There comes a time when a customer wastes a year or over a year of their life trying to give meaningful feedback and having it spat back in their face, that they aren't going to coddle anyone anymore.
 
For sure, I came back at the EA release start, things were a lot more 'constructive' with bugs/issues addressed and some decent feedback between with the devs, etc...then suddenly things go a lot worse around that ~e1.4/1.5 time (after that refactoring afaik). Barely any feedback, criticism was only met with 'we'll discuss' or 'too complicated', patches delayed over months with no update unless we pressed hard multiple times to only get 'not this week', some of the major issues were not touched upon or ignored (besides the major snowballing issue at the outset with mexxico), etc...
We gave some 'nerdy' feedback over that time on how to make it more balanced, fun, 'RP', 'realistic', etc...but were practically ignored as they just kept down their own thing regardless.
We were just their QA bug/crash testers, and they were even use that excuse as to why the patches were delayed, for an 'e' beta of an EA beta version already - when the patch comes, still the same issues/bugs/crashes you can find within the first 2 hours of the new patch.
 
It's one of the biggest frustrations that a community has ever experienced. This game had a potential, but it sucks. Devs are incompetent, the job is unfinished, the boss doesn't give a damn, and seems like no one knows what to do. <snip>
Oh, settle down. In its current state it's abut a 7/10. The developers might get that number higher and they might not. The modders will definitely get it higher. But regardless, if all work of any kind stopped today Bannerlord would be a pretty average title.
 
Life is good if this is your biggest worry.

Now think about your blood pressure, old man. Take a deep breath and walk your 10.000 steps for the day.

A small quote I'd like to leave with:

"You act like mortals in all that you fear, and like immortals in all that you desire."
Seneca - On The Shortness of Life
Thank you, Oh wise and sage one and master of balance.
 
Oh, settle down. In its current state it's abut a 7/10. The developers might get that number higher and they might not. The modders will definitely get it higher. But regardless, if all work of any kind stopped today Bannerlord would be a pretty average title.
Which is where most of the frustration really comes to in the end, game is average at best (6/10) but could have easily been so much better. This is on the back of a very lengthy development, 2.5 years of that as EA with player feedbacks, precedence of the original WB ip + popular mods from WB and VC/F&S, etc...
I don't think they will get that number higher, mods can fix/patch up the remaining commonly 'glaring' issues with the game but that's all it'll surmount to. I don't even think they have any DLC planned much like what 'Warband' technically was to the original M&B which drastically improved that game.
 
Giving it over 6 is way too generous. There's a lot of dishonesty if people are dropping a 7, 8, 9, or even a 10 on Bannerlord. It's 5/10 or 6/10 max.
 
Giving it over 6 is way too generous. There's a lot of dishonesty if people are dropping a 7, 8, 9, or even a 10 on Bannerlord. It's 5/10 or 6/10 max.
I suppose I could agree with this, though cRPG has been showing that it can shine tbh. Imagine if we only had a glitchy version of native without mods on warband, we'd probably feel the same way tbh.
 
Wrong.
Honor in WB:
"Honor affects your interactions with other lords and causes certain events. A high honor can increase the likelihood of a mercenary accepting an offer, or of you being elected as marshall. In Warband some lords will like you for having positive or negative honor; every 3 points in honor will increase or reduce your relation score by 1 (although the latter has small effect due to negative relationship repairing over time). Low honor can result in a bounty being placed on your head or a war being declared on your faction."
Yeah my bad. I wrote that wrong. I mean to say dishonor didn't make you powerful. It only made people dislike you, and thus make you lose power. My point being that in Warband, if you want to be powerful, you pretty much have to be honorable. You can't play a powerful military tyrant, but you can do it in Bannerlord.

Nope, it is not just that. It also relies the output of the game according to your input which is your actions.
Yes, but it's not like Bannerlord is completely lacking this. Again, I agree that Bannerlord is shallow, but it's not as bad as people are putting it out to be.

Please explain how does this making more sense than WB? Or tell me how can I roleplay this? How can I imagine a situation that I can earn such a political power?
I like to think that it's akin to you asking these clans for help, and they're just sending someone to represent them in your army as a gesture of friendship. Of course, as you have pointed out, it's rather silly at times that you can order powerful clan leaders just like that. In my opinion it should be that you're calling upon a clan, and they decide who to send according to your relation with them and influence spent. If you're a nobody they will just send a second son or a young lord, for example. If you're a good friend with them, the clan leader himself might show up to help you. I imagine it would be cool to be surprised that a clan leader decides to answer your call himself.
 
Thank you, Oh wise and sage one and master of balance.
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Don't thank me for I am merely a vessel, brought here to bring enlightenment to those who so desperately need it.
 
I like to think that it's akin to you asking these clans for help, and they're just sending someone to represent them in your army as a gesture of friendship.
Friendship, help? I am dragging Mesui, a clan leader, or any other her clan members, across the map, commanding her and her army on the battlefield as soon as I get 100ish influence and I am going to name this as friendship or help?

WB system is just better than this so called "influence" in any day.
 
The reviews are baffling.
Probably mostly newbies which never played something like Warband/Bannerlord, so not dishonest just naive.
And too many people are forgiving bad gamedesign, Bugs and other stuff too fast, thats why many games with potential are garbage nowadays.

My review was good until today, but the not so "full release" and the recent update made me change my mind.
I will check on this game mid next year again, maybe we have a finished and really playable game then.
 
I guess that means 87% of Steam players are dishonest?

You can't compare the binary scoring system of steam with the gradient system of IGN and other websites. 85% is actually the median for game reviews on steam. People usually leave negative reviews only for games that are completely broken. Read most negative reviews and they're mostly technical issues. Compare that to IGN giving 8.5s to practically every game ever made.

Anyway there is way too much emphasis on game review scores rather than the content of those reviews. Comparing numbers is just a **** measuring contest at the end of the day.
 
I'll say again, it's hard to trust any reviews these days given the amount of astroturfing that takes place in the industry/amongst 'influencers'. I think the source of truth is really the active community, be it on reddit, twitter or even these forums. It's undeniable that the TaleWorlds community is overwhelmingly negative about the "release" of this product. By comparison, with other games releases - there's a sense of excitement and positive feedback on these same mediums. However, you can browse any topics related to Bannerlord, and it's literally a dumpster fire. I have never seen this level of hubris and contempt from a company before with respect to their fans, it's utterly shocking.
 
You can't compare the binary scoring system of steam with the gradient system of IGN and other websites. 85% is actually the median for game reviews on steam. People usually leave negative reviews only for games that are completely broken. Read most negative reviews and they're mostly technical issues. Compare that to IGN giving 8.5s to practically every game ever made.

Anyway there is way too much emphasis on game review scores rather than the content of those reviews. Comparing numbers is just a **** measuring contest at the end of the day.
Personally I don't really care about reviews but ignoring every other review because IGN is one of the few that matches your opinion is dishonst. Metacritic is currently at 76/100 based on 11 professional reviews. Ser Jon says everyone who gives the game more than 6/10 is dishonest. Sorry but that's just a poor troll attempt and I would be shocked if someone as clever as you would agree with such nonsense.
 
Personally I don't really care about reviews but ignoring every other review because IGN is one of the few that matches your opinion is dishonst. Metacritic is currently at 76/100 based on 11 professional reviews. Ser Jon says everyone who gives the game more than 6/10 is dishonest. Sorry but that's just a poor troll attempt and I would be shocked if someone as clever as you would agree with such nonsense.
I mean, most reviews have similar takes from the first week it came out, the combat/battles are great; the rest, not so much. Whether that review weights the combat/battle parts more heavily can mean that overall number is 8/10 but for others mean it's 6/10 as they value the other elements more.
 
I guess that means 87% of Steam players are dishonest?

They don't have to be aware of it, but in most cases? No, that's not entirely what I was getting at. They're just not aware of how to properly judge games or even when to, letting hype and bias and those 3-5 hours they played control everything. It's not a thing just associated to BL reviewers though, most Steam players don't know how to do it either.

Personally I don't really care about reviews but ignoring every other review because IGN is one of the few that matches your opinion is dishonst. Metacritic is currently at 76/100 based on 11 professional reviews. Ser Jon says everyone who gives the game more than 6/10 is dishonest. Sorry but that's just a poor troll attempt and I would be shocked if someone as clever as you would agree with such nonsense.

Yes, if you dislike my opinion, obviously I am a troll. :roll:
 
I mean, most reviews have similar takes from the first week it came out, the combat/battles are great; the rest, not so much. Whether that review weights the combat/battle parts more heavily can mean that overall number is 8/10 but for others mean it's 6/10 as they value the other elements more.
Obviously everyone is entitled to give the game a 6/10. Saying that nobody else should give the game a better rating is the problem.
 
They don't have to be aware of it, but in most cases? No, that's not entirely what I was getting at. They're just not aware of how to properly judge games or even when to, letting hype and bias and those 3-5 hours they played control everything. It's not a thing just associated to BL reviewers though, most Steam players don't know how to do it either.



Yes, if you dislike my opinion, obviously I am a troll. :roll:
Are you genuinely trying to suggest something like IGN is more honest then 100,000 actual players? Because IGN gave battlefield 2042 a 7/10...

IGN is so corrupt its astonishing anyone here is even trying to take it seriously
 
Are you genuinely trying to suggest something like IGN is more honest then 100,000 actual players? Because IGN gave battlefield 2042 a 7/10...

Really? In what world could you derive something like that from my post? No, it has nothing to do with IGN. Just because I agree on a 6/10 rating doesn't mean I think IGN is Jesus Christ to game reviewing, people. Come on. :lol:
 
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