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The underwear of the naked models. A how-to for medieval braies.

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Eogan

Weaponsmith
Grandmaster Knight
WB
As they stand, the current "skivvies" worn by the naked models are atrociously modern.  The male model should have braies.  Braies are basically baggy shorts, and in all illuminations from the 12th century on are ALWAYS white.  The pattern looks like this:
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They're made of three pieces of fabric, each ~50" long and 30" wide, which makes the waistline 120" (10' or 3m) around!  As you can see, the inseam of the legs is not sewn up.  This allows it to fit inside chausses or hosen with a minimum of unsightly bulging on the inner leg.  The red drawstring is used to either secure the chausses/hose, or to tie away the loose legs.  To tie away the legs, take the front bottom corners (A) and wrap them between the legs and around to the tie (B).  The blue string

This detail from the Maciejowski Bible shows a man wearing nothing but braies, with the legs tied up.  Note the hip roll, that's not just the drawstring channel.  Once the braies are on, your pull all the excess material up and under the drawstring.  Not only does this give the unfitted braies a better fit, but it also gives men "hips", which I can tell you is something you definitely want to keep your belt on without having to buckle so tight that it digs in and hurts by dinner time.  More than anything else, having the hips from wearing proper braies gave my medieval garb the right "hang" to actually look medieval.  I can wear my belt loose enough that it has a V-shaped dip in the front, and it will still stay in place all day long.

In this detail, we can see what the braies looked like under chausses.

There is little known about women's undergarments.  They may have worn braies as well to hold their hose up, or they may have just worn a full-length white linen undergown.  The Egerton Genesis portrayal of the rape of Dinah shows knee-high hose tied with a strap just below the knee, so in at least that depiction, the woman likely wore nothing under her gowns.  If the female model isn't to be in a white undergown while "naked", she should also be in braies and have a linen wrap around her breasts.
 

rageshrub

Knight at Arms
M&B
interesting suggestion but it does beg this question: what the **** are you doing running around naked for long enough to have issues realting to the timeperiod of the underwear?
 

El Georgeo McFudge

Knight at Arms
Sum people don't like clothes. And armour is awful uncomfortable.

Oh, and don't forget to put little pretty pick hearts on them.

And the women were deprived of the right to wear underwear....
 

Corinthian Hoplite

Sergeant Knight at Arms
M&BWB
rageshrub said:
interesting suggestion but it does beg this question: what the **** are you doing running around naked for long enough to have issues realting to the timeperiod of the underwear?
Playing berserker-style?
 

DarkAnd

Sergeant Knight at Arms
Vilhjalmr said:
Eogan said:


Yes. Very good. Shouldn't be hard to do either. Might look a bit odd with some of te armours that use the current "braes" as a replacement for britches, but who cares: Those are mostly old Khergit armours. :razz:
And the leather jerking (that one whit Ramun)
 

fisheye

Grandmaster Knight
DarkAnd said:
And the leather jerking (that one whit Ramun)

You should remove your braies before jerking on Ramun's leather. I know it chafes less but the idea is to put the mess on him, not in your underwear.
 

Corinthian Hoplite

Sergeant Knight at Arms
M&BWB
fisheye said:
DarkAnd said:
And the leather jerking (that one whit Ramun)

You should remove your braies before jerking on Ramun's leather. I know it chafes less but the idea is to put the mess on him, not in your underwear.
***'on! Be fair with the poor boy. He just mis-typed the word....
 

Eogan

Weaponsmith
Grandmaster Knight
WB
rageshrub said:
interesting suggestion but it does beg this question: what the **** are you doing running around naked for long enough to have issues realting to the timeperiod of the underwear?
Training?  The very first things many, many new players will do in the game?
 

Suzerain

Regular
Eogan's pretty much dead on there.  women, plausibly a under-garment t-tunic shift in white would be sufficently covering.



Me? I'm just waiting for the codpeice to return to fashion....
 

Neastle

Banned
Ok is this somthing that you thought that u wanted more reveling underwear so you can fell like your getting some?? and then google imaged it??
 

The Mercenary

Grandmaster Knight
Jazed said:
Ok is this somthing that you thought that u wanted more reveling underwear so you can fell like your getting some?? and then google imaged it??

How...um, how....it has to do with the time period? You need to learn how to type?

Reading comprehension fail.
 

tha_rami

Recruit
Well, I guess that would just be a texture change, so I'm all for making the game more historically accurate. Has nothing to do with jerking off, but I admit some replies in this topic where hilarious.
 
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