The thread that is now the unofficial PC builds thread :P

[In Vain]

I have tried to build a good gaming PC. And I have these results. Any suggestions or ideas?


Intel Core i7-6800K Boxed

1 MSI X99A SLI Plus
1 MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB
1 WD Red Pro WD4002FFWX, 4TB
1 Scythe Mugen 5
1 Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2400C16
1 BitFenix Whisper BWG550M
1 Crucial MX300 2,5" 525GB

Do you need that six-core CPU for anything specific? For pure gaming porposes, a four-core i7 is still the more sensible choice, at the moment. If you're sure you could use 6c/12t or even 8c/16t, wait a week and see how AMD Ryzen will perform. 

You might consider buying some higher-clocked RAM. IIRC, DDR-2400 is somewhat slow for DDR4. But IÄm not very up-to-date, here.

Sensible choice on heatsink/cooler, PSU and SSD! For GPU make sure to read some reviews, as there's an abundance of models to choose from. MSI usually does well with Geforce GPUs, though. If you're not going for 4K gaming, you could also settle for a 1070 which has a far better price-performance-ratio.

 

[Arvenski]

My suggestion would be that you don't need to spend $200+ USD on a hard drive. Do you really need 4TB? I'd think that 2TB should do fine, unless you're recording a lot of video or something...

 

[Axurimas]

My suggestion would be that you don't need to spend $200+ USD on a hard drive. Do you really need 4TB? I'd think that 2TB should do fine, unless you're recording a lot of video or something...

Yeah I want to stream  and record youtube videos in the future.

And I'm not really a fan of AMD. Always went with Nvidia and I have no remorse.

 

[In Vain]

Yeah I want to stream  and record youtube videos in the future.

And I'm not really a fan of AMD. Always went with Nvidia and I have no remorse.

Ah, that also explains your choice of a six-core.

I'm talking about CPUs here, not GPUs. Just saying. So it's AMD vs Intel and rumors have it that AMDs coming Ryzen CPUs are actually going to be quite good. I'd just wait two weeks and decide then.
GPU-wise, AMD doesn't have anything at th emoment that can compare to Nvidia's 1070 and 1080, that's right.

 

[Axurimas]

Hmm, If I do buy the Ryzen, am I still able to have a MSI Geforce 1080 Graphics Card?

 

[In Vain]

But of course!

 

[Axurimas]

That sounds good.


Well, I'm really in a dilemma. I just want to play games on very good quality and perhaps also on good 4K quality. And run big games like Battlefield 1 and total war games above 90 fps.

I don't really care for the cost but if anyone has a good setup of all the parts, I would be more than happy hehe.

 

[In Vain]

Your configuration is about the best you can get for a still 'reasonable' prize. You can't get a better CPU nor GPU for under a thousand bucks each. As I said, I'd just wait for Ryzen (will be out in a week) and see if it gives you a better prize/performance.

If you don't expect to do any streaming or video editing on a professional level, I'd say you could also make do with a quadcore i7 7700k, but that's up to you and how much money you want to spent.

I also just noticed how expensive the WD Red Pro is. Do you really need such an expensive harddrive for your purpose? You probably could get 2x 2TB for about half the prize.

 

[Axurimas]

yeah I'm going to make a lot of YouTube videos once I'm settled Heheh.

I think I'm gonna wait for the Ryzen 7 1080x then.

 

[AreJohn]

Roight.'

My latop of 5 years has been progressively getting worse recently, the intergrated video card keeps dying and i'm really in need of a better system that's a tower. I'm honestly not sure what matters in regards to what I need.

隐藏: Horrendous specs by todays standard. (What my laptop currently has in its broken form)

32bit
AMD Phenom(tm) II N620  Dual-Cor Processor 2.8ghz
4gb ram (3.24gb usable)
ATI Mobility Raedon HD 5470 with 1917MB graphics memory, 512MB Dedicated video memory and
1405MB SharedSystem Memory

隐藏: And Looking at recommended specs of games on steam, eg (Arma III, Planetside 2, Warthunder, SpaceEngineers ect) I need something around the region of this.

64bit - Not exactly an issue, is pretty standard nowdays.
Find a processor with 3+ ghz
Acquire at least 8GB ram or more
Graphics preferably 4gb
1tb hard drive - Also pretty standard.

I have a budget of £700

I'm not sure where i'm going with this, but i've been flicking through the custom selections at the site PC friend and alot of the items are just walls of jargon to me, which I can't see through or know the point of besides individual components having differing sizes of memory. Which in turn affects the overall value.

Also i've been asking friends on steam and they've been informing me about power supplies, which is also rather going over my head.

I'm rather lost at what to do, could someone lend me some advice?

Regards.

- Wigster600

 

[Danath]

If you are switching from laptop, does that budget include a monitor?

 

[AreJohn]

It does not, i've already got one.

 

[Arvenski]

And Looking at recommended specs of games on steam, eg (Arma III, Planetside 2, Warthunder, SpaceEngineers ect) I need something around the region of this.
64bit - Not exactly an issue, is pretty standard nowdays.
Find a processor with 3+ ghz
Acquire at least 8GB ram or more
Graphics preferably 4gb
1tb hard drive - Also pretty standard.

I have a budget of £700

I'm not sure where i'm going with this, but i've been flicking through the custom selections at the site PC friend and alot of the items are just walls of jargon to me, which I can't see through or know the point of besides individual components having differing sizes of memory. Which in turn affects the overall value.

Are you thinking of building a PC yourself, or buying one? Because building it yourself would probably be cheaper, meaning your could spend more of your budget on the actual PC.

8GB of RAM is fine, at least for now. You can get more, of course, but I'd recommend just sticking with 8GB if you're on a budget, and you can always add more later if you feel you need it. RAM really isn't the most important part of your build, so you don't have to go crazy here: just get something decent, and you'll be fine. RAM comes in different speeds: one pretty standard speed is DDR3-1600, and you can get that pretty cheaply.

Hard drive: with an HDD (hard drive disk), you want it to be 7200 RPM, and be reliable (you don't want that sucker dying on you out of the blue; it's not a bad idea to pay attention to customer reviews/ratings if you can). Again, you don't need an expensive one, just a good one. Here's one that I found.

The power supply is a pretty straightforward one, too: you want to figure out how much juice (watts) your rig is going to use (a site like the one I've been linking to will tell you), and buy a PSU with a wattage output that's a bit bigger than that, just to give you some breathing room. For a budget-midrange PC, you probably won't need more that 500-600 watts. An 80+ rating for a PSU denotes energy efficiency, which may or may not be important to you. The other thing to look at with PSUs is whether or not they have modular cabling: that means that you can plug or unplug cables that cables that go from the PSU to your other components, rather than having all those cables (possibly more than you need) permanently fixed to the PSU. This just helps to reduce unnecessary cable spam inside your tower.

As for the CPU and GPU, I'm going to leave that to others. AMDs are apparently the better option when you're on a budget (as opposed to Intel/Nvidia), and I don't know enough about them to be able to provide any useful advice.

 

[AreJohn]

And Looking at recommended specs of games on steam, eg (Arma III, Planetside 2, Warthunder, SpaceEngineers ect) I need something around the region of this.
64bit - Not exactly an issue, is pretty standard nowdays.
Find a processor with 3+ ghz
Acquire at least 8GB ram or more
Graphics preferably 4gb
1tb hard drive - Also pretty standard.

I have a budget of £700

I'm not sure where i'm going with this, but i've been flicking through the custom selections at the site PC friend and alot of the items are just walls of jargon to me, which I can't see through or know the point of besides individual components having differing sizes of memory. Which in turn affects the overall value.

Are you thinking of building a PC yourself, or buying one? Because building it yourself would probably be cheaper, meaning your could spend more of your budget on the actual PC.

I feel it's more realistic for myself to just buy one, custom built preferably for i'm not that confident and rather inexperienced with assembling pc's. But i'm not sure where to get the best value for money.

隐藏

8GB of RAM is fine, at least for now. You can get more, of course, but I'd recommend just sticking with 8GB if you're on a budget, and you can always add more later if you feel you need it. RAM really isn't the most important part of your build, so you don't have to go crazy here: just get something decent, and you'll be fine. RAM comes in different speeds: one pretty standard speed is DDR3-1600, and you can get that pretty cheaply.

Hard drive: with an HDD (hard drive disk), you want it to be 7200 RPM, and be reliable (you don't want that sucker dying on you out of the blue; it's not a bad idea to pay attention to customer reviews/ratings if you can). Again, you don't need an expensive one, just a good one. Here's one that I found.

The power supply is a pretty straightforward one, too: you want to figure out how much juice (watts) your rig is going to use (a site like the one I've been linking to will tell you), and buy a PSU with a wattage output that's a bit bigger than that, just to give you some breathing room. For a budget-midrange PC, you probably won't need more that 500-600 watts. An 80+ rating for a PSU denotes energy efficiency, which may or may not be important to you. The other thing to look at with PSUs is whether or not they have modular cabling: that means that you can plug or unplug cables that cables that go from the PSU to your other components, rather than having all those cables (possibly more than you need) permanently fixed to the PSU. This just helps to reduce unnecessary cable spam inside your tower.

As for the CPU and GPU, I'm going to leave that to others. AMDs are apparently the better option when you're on a budget (as opposed to Intel/Nvidia), and I don't know enough about them to be able to provide any useful advice.

Thanks for clearing some things up. 

 

[Arvenski]

I feel it's more realistic for myself to just buy one, custom built preferably for i'm not that confident and rather inexperienced with assembling pc's. But i'm not sure where to get the best value for money.

Everybody's gotta start somewhere. I'd say go for it and try building it yourself. You'll save some money, and you'll learn some new things in the process.

I'd recommend reading some articles or watching some YouTube videos on building a PC. Knowing how stuff goes together before you start building is very important, IMO, and you could at least see, after reading up on it or watching someone else do it, if it was something you thought you could handle. Edit: Here's something to get you started. I'm pretty sure I had this guide, or a previous version of it, open on my laptop when I was building my PC a couple years ago.

 

[AreJohn]

I feel it's more realistic for myself to just buy one, custom built preferably for i'm not that confident and rather inexperienced with assembling pc's. But i'm not sure where to get the best value for money.

Everybody's gotta start somewhere. I'd say go for it and try building it yourself. You'll save some money, and you'll learn some new things in the process.

I'd recommend reading some articles or watching some YouTube videos on building a PC. Knowing how stuff goes together before you start building is very important, IMO, and you could at least see, after reading up on it or watching someone else do it, if it was something you thought you could handle. Edit: Here's something to get you started. I'm pretty sure I had this guide, or a previous version of it, open on my laptop when I was building my PC a couple years ago.

Once again, thanks for the advice. I've got some reading to do. 

 

[Arvenski]

Once again, thanks for the advice. I've got some reading to do. 

No problem.

 

[Danath]

Assuming you are never going going to overclok or use 2 GPUs, and at most 1HDD + 1SDD, looking at "Superb" line in http://www.logicalincrements.com/ you could get

GPU: RX 480
CPU: i5 7600 (K = overclocking).
HFS: don't see the need of buying something expensive for non-overclocking stuff. Something like the Artic i32 would do fine.

Motherboard: they'll charge you for so many features that you won't ever use. The "pro" and "Z" are basically for overclocking. Even the H170 chipset would do more than fine, since there is an update to use the last Intel's CPU generation.

RAM: not going to overclock, then just standard DDR4
Power supply and case: getting good pieces means you'll probably still use them for the next computer. Spending more now is less in the future.

 

[kalarhan]

I've got some reading to do. 

also if you plan to keep this computer running for 4-5 years: plan to buy a new GPU in 18-24 months ish. You can sell your old own and get some money back, and with a $100-200 bucks upgrade it will help keep your machine alive for the new games in 2018-2020

 

[AreJohn]

Okay, so we've got an old PackardBell tower that runs windows xp (something we got off a local IT guy that runs his business in a shed after we traded in our old bluescreening vista) collecting dust because nobody uses it that i've decided to open and have a look inside/try taking parts out and replacing them/have a general tinker with it.

Through digging through it, combined with googling, i've found out some information of what is housed inside it.
The MotherBoard it has is a ASUS P5S800-VM/S (No idea if this sort of MotherBoard is still relevant/useful to modern hardware today.)

隐藏: Pic of the model of MotherBoard

It houses a FSP250-60GEN 250Wat ATX PSU (power supply unit)

While housing a HYS64D32300HU-5-C (256MB, 400MHZ RAM Card) and a Seitec RAM Card 256MB 333MHZ not the best thing ever.

No idea what the video cards specs are without turning it on, besides a label on the side of it saying "VGA CARD(IV031)" but most likely something rubbish, for it struggles to run my disk version of Cossacks 2 Napoleonic Wars smoothly so I dread to think what it posesses. 

However the tower itself is nice, despite having a slight bit of rust on the removeable side panel.

隐藏: Same model as this;