The Mead Hall

[Hengwulf]

I was a bit disappointed as well, mostly about 1) England the mythical country 2) apparently they haven't invented drakars yet and he is super cool with his new ship 3) the storyline goes way to fast. In the first episode they introduce so many people, a great meeting, his wife introduced like awesome fighter babe, strange Merlin like shipbuilder, brother / wife affairs, etc. etc. All these thing took about 3 seconds before the next thing was going on.

But since Viking/ Dark age series and films are not abundant, what is a great must see, as we are quite critical.

ps. As a birdwatcher, my sack really hit the floor when in the first few seconds all ravens were actually crows 

 

[Dragomir]

ps. As a birdwatcher, my sack really hit the floor when in the first few seconds all ravens were actually crows 

Hm, weren't ravens a bit rare in early middle ages too? I mean, they did call snakes and worms the same, not being able to tell a crow from a raven would be very likely for vikings. And I presume on real battlefield there would be more crows than ravens.

And the fight scenes I've seen so far make no sense too, but then I've never seen a well made combat scene in any movie ever.

 

[Hengwulf]

Well crows are ofcourse more common, but hey! it was freakin' Oðin himself there. They should have taken ravens

 

[Nyah]

It's a f** series for entertainment not a documentary...
Braveheart is also completely inaccurate but it entertains...

 

[KickingJoub]

It's a f** series for entertainment not a documentary...
Braveheart is also completely inaccurate but it entertains...

And the award for missing half the discussion goes to...! Anyway, just to summarize: They're not talking about the tv series being generally entertaining but about everyone calling it "historically accurate" which it's not. They're also discussing how they view the inaccurasies as a problem from their point of view for being entertained.

So stop being butthurt about what other people think about the things you like.

 

[Wernicke]

It almost sounds as though I will have to check these series out.

 

[Nyah]

Well then, sorry for my behaviour. I will read more proper next time.

 

[Mammoet]

I just pretend it's another fantasy series and suddenly it's not that bad any more. ^^

 

[Dragomir]

I just pretend it's another fantasy series and suddenly it's not that bad any more. ^^

I actually enjoyed Game of Thrones Low fantasy somewhat based in history, with good story, decent acting and cool scenery. Also the costume design was done very well.

 

[RandomUsername]

I actually enjoyed Game of Thrones Low fantasy somewhat based in history, with good story, decent acting and cool scenery. Also the costume design was done very well.

I think the TV series is decent, too, but if you ask me the costume design was the worst thing about it. Some of those armours were downright abysmal. 

 

[Dragomir]

Yeah, armours indeed. But the clothing was decent!

 

[Hospes fori]

ps. As a birdwatcher, my sack really hit the floor when in the first few seconds all ravens were actually crows 

I am no zoologist, but are not all ravens effectively crows?

 

[Hengwulf]

ps. As a birdwatcher, my sack really hit the floor when in the first few seconds all ravens were actually crows 

I am no zoologist, but are not all ravens effectively crows?

Well they are part of the same family, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvidae. This family includes ravens, crows, magpies etc. But they are not the same species.

 

[Hospes fori]

This seems to be somewhat confusing. I have thought crow would be an umbrella term for ravens, therefore that every raven is a crow but not every crow a raven (only the larger species). And in fact the various species of crows and ravens are not only part of the family corvidae but even part of the same genus, called corvus.
However while Wikipedia in fact refers to crow when looking up corvus, the Latin word corvus actually means raven, which in turn would mean that not all ravens are crows but all crows are ravens. In the end the terms crow and raven appear to be very spongy.

 

[Hengwulf]

                                                  Corvidae (Crow family)
                                                                I
True crows (corvus genus)            Magpies (pica genus)          Jays (Garrulus)  etc

*different ravens                            *eurasian magpie                *eurasian jay
*different crows                              *yellowbilled magie
*rooks                                            *blackbilled magpie
*jackdaws
etc


the *  are species.

I also understand the confusion since the family and genus are named after a species which resembles other members of the family. Therefor not all ravens are crows (talking species), but all ravens are part of the true crow genus and the crow family.

 

[sotijalo]

I've thought that magpie just sounds like really cool name for a bird like that...

 

[Leifr Eiríksson]

One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told.

 

[sotijalo]

One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told.

Ya nice poem. Had to wikipedia it to see the link. It's just so funny as in Finnish we call that awesome bird as harakka and it's quite a different sounding name as magpie which always makes me somehow think of some English dish...

 

[HannesFury]

                                                  Corvidae (Crow family)
                                                                I
True crows (corvus genus)            Magpies (pica genus)          Jays (Garrulus)  etc

*different ravens                            *eurasian magpie                *eurasian jay
*different crows                              *yellowbilled magie
*rooks                                            *blackbilled magpie
*jackdaws
etc


the *  are species.

I also understand the confusion since the family and genus are named after a species which resembles other members of the family.
Therefor not all ravens are crows (talking species), but all ravens are part of the true crow genus and the crow family.

         

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[Hengwulf]

Great was my joy to once fight again the mighty Gisli! Hail to thou art and blessed be thou duels!