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deucefire

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Have you made any decisions on which Lords to include in the second volume?  If you haven't then maybe you could include Edward the Black Prince.
 

thick1988

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deucefire said:
Have you made any decisions on which Lords to include in the second volume?  If you haven't then maybe you could include Edward the Black Prince.

Volume 1:
Archibald Douglas
Walter de Brienne
Henry de Bohun
Gunther von Schwarzburg
William Marshal
Hugh Bigod
William Staunton
Hartmann von Heldrungen
Knight of Leuven
Hospitaller Grand Master Jean de Villiers
Raynald of Châtillon
Richard the Lionheart
Simon de Montfort, 5th Earl of Leicester
Pierre de Amiens
William Wallace

Volume 2:
Robert the Bruce
Edward Bruce
Robert Fitzwalter
Andrew de Chauvigny
Simon de Montfort, 6th Earl of Leicester
Der Tannhäuser
Almaric de Saint Amand
Hartmann Von Aue
Edward the Black Prince
William the Conqueror
Louis I, Count of Flanders
Ralph Stafford
William Douglas
Edward Longshanks
Captal de Buch

Volume 3:
Jean le Maingre II
Bertrand du Guescelin
 

Temuzu

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I for one come to this thread to read epic stories of badass knights. It's surprising how little we hear about them these days.
 

thick1988

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Comrade Temuzu said:
I for one come to this thread to read epic stories of badass knights. It's surprising how little we hear about them these days.

Glad to hear it, unfortunately some of the recent entries have little to no story behind them. But I'll be sure to include the stories with each new entry.

Yes it's a shame how little you hear about these people, in America we just get to hear our teachers and professors prattle on about people like John Quincy Adams, Susan B. Anthony, and Woodrow Wilson  :roll:
 

Amman d Stazia

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just for some inspiration, I googled "flower of chivalry" and among 8,012,053 other results, it has
William Douglas, (the Knight of Liddesdale)
William Marshal
Bertrand du Guescelin
Edward Longshanks (I of England)
Captal de Buch
 

thick1988

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Amman de Stazia said:
just for some inspiration, I googled "flower of chivalry" and among 8,012,053 other results, it has
William Douglas, (the Knight of Liddesdale)
William Marshal
Bertrand du Guescelin
Edward Longshanks (I of England)
Captal de Buch

Brilliant thinking, I think I've got the right info associated with each individual now. I'll be sure to add these guys into the next volume. Thanks!

William Douglas, (the Knight of Liddesdale) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Douglas,_Lord_of_Liddesdale
William Marshal
Bertrand du Guescelin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_du_Guesclin
Edward Longshanks (I of England) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_I_of_England
Captal de Buch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_III_de_Grailly,_captal_de_Buch
 

Orchid

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Jean (II) le Maingre, aka Boucicaut, would be a wonderful addition to the second volume as well methinks. Marshal of France, known throughout Europe for his prowess in battle and commander of the French vanguard in one of the famous battles of all times: Agincourt.
Boucicaut.svg
Jean%20le%20Maingre%20-%20Boucicault.jpg
 

thick1988

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Orchid said:
Jean (II) le Maingre, aka Boucicaut, would be a wonderful addition to the second volume as well methinks. Marshal of France, known throughout Europe for his prowess in battle and commander of the French vanguard in one of the famous battles of all times: Agincourt.
Boucicaut.svg
Jean%20le%20Maingre%20-%20Boucicault.jpg

Good suggestion, Volume 2 was pretty much full. But I've added him to Volume 3 along with Bertrand du Guesclin
 

thick1988

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Mylae said:
wow... lovely.
let's bring some italian condottieri in:

Guidoriccio da Fogliano
(there is not yet an english wiki, but look http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guidoriccio_da_Fogliano)
foglian2.jpg


Castruccio Castracani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castruccio_Castracani
Castruccio_campo_santo.jpg

451px-Castruccio_ms1661.jpg

John Hawkwood/Giovanni Acuto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hawkwood
http://www.alabarda.net/lilliputold/articulos/mendez/john_hawkwood/john_hawkwood.htm
Paolo_Uccello_044.jpg

john_hawkwood_6.jpg


Good suggestions, I would like to include more Italians as well as some figures from other areas such as Scandiniavia, Poland, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Denmark etc. Trying to stick to Catholic regions at the moment. In the future if the project is relatively successful/popular I'll be moving onto other regions like Russia, Middle East, etc.

Only thing about these suggestions is that Castruccio and John's references are actually made about 40-50 years after their deaths. I know Hawkwoods memorial is from 1436 when he died in 1394. Maybe Mohatmair has some images in his vast archive, but I may have to make an educated guess at what they may have been equipped with.
 

Warrior.X

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Dont know if you need it but i´ve got a lord
count Floris IV of Holland

220px-Florent_IV_de_Hollande.png

coat of arms
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Mylae

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thick1988 said:
Mylae said:
wow... lovely.
let's bring some italian condottieri in:

Guidoriccio da Fogliano
(there is not yet an english wiki, but look http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guidoriccio_da_Fogliano)
foglian2.jpg

What do you say it's true, however a timespan of only 50 years is not so much. Beyond that, those are almost the only contemporary sources we have, and especially in the case of castruccio, his illustration in full armour comes from an eye witness from Lucca. I just gave you a hint, more info could come on a deeper research.
The mid and late XIV century military outlook is fascinating in looking how many leaders rise from lower tiers of society to fight and rule...


Castruccio Castracani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castruccio_Castracani
Castruccio_campo_santo.jpg

451px-Castruccio_ms1661.jpg

John Hawkwood/Giovanni Acuto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hawkwood
http://www.alabarda.net/lilliputold/articulos/mendez/john_hawkwood/john_hawkwood.htm
Paolo_Uccello_044.jpg

john_hawkwood_6.jpg


Good suggestions, I would like to include more Italians as well as some figures from other areas such as Scandiniavia, Poland, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Denmark etc. Trying to stick to Catholic regions at the moment. In the future if the project is relatively successful/popular I'll be moving onto other regions like Russia, Middle East, etc.

Only thing about these suggestions is that Castruccio and John's references are actually made about 40-50 years after their deaths. I know Hawkwoods memorial is from 1436 when he died in 1394. Maybe Mohatmair has some images in his vast archive, but I may have to make an educated guess at what they may have been equipped with.
 

Nu-Lz

Squire
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thick1988 said:
Good suggestions, I would like to include more Italians as well as some figures from other areas such as Scandiniavia, Poland, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Denmark etc. Trying to stick to Catholic regions at the moment. In the future if the project is relatively successful/popular I'll be moving onto other regions like Russia, Middle East, etc.

Only thing about these suggestions is that Castruccio and John's references are actually made about 40-50 years after their deaths. I know Hawkwoods memorial is from 1436 when he died in 1394. Maybe Mohatmair has some images in his vast archive, but I may have to make an educated guess at what they may have been equipped with.

I'm not Matmohair, but here are some pictures :wink: :

emi_war25.jpg

castrucc.jpg

I know, that are only Miniatures, but the only good pictures I can find till now.
A Condottiere from the early 14th Century could have looked like this one:
large_orig_condottiere_a.jpg

large_orig_condottiere_c.jpg

Very similar to your Avatar.

And other suggestions:

vp_1500.jpg

resize.php

Miniatures again...
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And a scene from a movie. I've only watched some scenes. As good as the armours look, as horrible are some other details (e.g. knights are lifted at their horses with cranes :roll:)

large_orig_drawing_agincourt_knight.jpg

This drawing is from Graham Turner. I have to say I like his style.

large_orig_drawing_knight_cornwall.jpg

Grahama Turner's drawing again.

Graham Turner has drawn some impressive pictures (mainly for some Osprey books). I suggest you take a look at his homepage gallery for some good pictures of late medieval armours: http://www.studio88.co.uk/acatalog/Historical.html
 

thick1988

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Jean de Villiers was the 22nd Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller from 1285 until 1293. He was present at the Siege of Acre in 1291, but escaped to Cyprus just before the city fell to the Mameluks.

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Raynald of Châtillon (c. 1125 – July 4, 1187) was a knight who served in the Second Crusade and remained in the Holy Land after its defeat. He ruled as Prince of Antioch from 1153 to 1160 and through his second marriage became Lord of Oultrejordain. He was an enormously controversial character in his own lifetime and beyond.

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Simon IV de Montfort, 5th Earl of Leicester (1160 – 25 June 121:cool:, also known as Simon de Montfort the elder, was a French nobleman who took part in the Fourth Crusade (1202–1204) and was a prominent leader of the Albigensian Crusade. He died at the siege of Toulouse in 1218.

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Richard I (8 September 1157 – 6 April 1199) was King of England from 6 July 1189 until his death. He also ruled as Duke of Normandy (as Richard IV), Duke of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, Lord of Cyprus, Count of Anjou, Count of Maine, Count of Nantes, and Overlord of Brittany at various times during the same period. He was known as Richard Cœur de Lion, or Richard the Lionheart, even before his accession, because of his reputation as a great military leader and warrior. The Saracens called him Melek-Ric or Malek al-Inkitar – King of England.

By the age of sixteen, Richard had taken command of his own army, putting down rebellions in Poitou against his father, King Henry II. Richard was a central Christian commander during the Third Crusade, leading the campaign after the departure of Philip II of France and scoring considerable victories against his Muslim counterpart, Saladin, although he did not reconquer Jerusalem.

Speaking langue d'oïl and langue d'oc and spending very little time in England (he lived in his Duchy of Aquitaine in the southwest of France, preferring to use his kingdom as a source of revenue to support his armies) he was seen as a pious hero by his subjects. He remains one of the few Kings of England remembered by his epithet, rather than regnal number, and is an enduring iconic figure in England and France.
 

thick1988

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Pierre d'Amiens A tall and powerful French knight who followed Aleaume de Clari through the breach in the wall of Constantinople to ultimately bring about the fall of the city to the Crusaders in 1204 ad.

 

thick1988

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Sir William Wallace (died 23 August 1305) was a Scottish landowner who became one of the main leaders during the Wars of Scottish Independence.

Along with Andrew Moray, Wallace defeated an English army at the Battle of Stirling Bridge in 1297, and was Guardian of Scotland, serving until his defeat at the Battle of Falkirk in July 1298. In 1305, Wallace was captured in Robroyston near Glasgow and handed over to King Edward I of England, who had him summarily hanged, drawn, and quartered for high treason and crimes against English civilians. Since his death, Wallace has obtained an iconic status far beyond his homeland. He is the protagonist of the 15th-century epic poem The Acts and Deeds of Sir William Wallace, Noble of Elderslie, by Blind Harry. Wallace is also the subject of literary works by Sir Walter Scott and Jane Porter and of the 1995 Academy Award-winning epic film Braveheart.
 

thick1988

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Captured Joe said:
YES! I love you! :grin:

Will this be an apart mod, or are this files replacing native lords?

It's originally been intended to be just an OSP pack. It won't be replacing any lords. Although I may create some sort of troops.txt file which has all the lords, their equipment, a horse, and a face code attached later on which could be copied and pasted into a mod's troops.txt file individually. So that it fits with any mod.
 
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