The French Presidential Elections of 2017. Be polite with each other please...

[rebelknight]

This election may be the turning point for Europe and North America.
If Le Pen win, other far right may win in other European countries as some form of domino effect.
Trump was the begining, Le Pen is the Catalyst.

 

[kurczak]

They said the same about the presidential elections in Austria or the Dutch parliamentary elections and the "far" right lost both.

Chill. Yeah, 2 weeks is a long time in politics and anything can happen, but right now the end is not nigh.

And even if she wins, she won't be an absolute monarch. And honestly, if the France, democracy, the EU or whatever, can't survive one slightly-more-nationalist-than-other-candidates person in office, then they were terribly designed systems and it just wasn't meant to be.

 

[Captured Joe]

People who said Wilders would win in the Netherlands were idiots. Le Pen has a better chance, but I don't think she'll make it. And even if she did, I don't think Frexit would happen.

Also.

 

[kurczak]

Well if she is like Trump and wins and follows the pattern of his post-election behavior, she will be a eurofederalist Muslim by the end of May.

 

[Captured Joe]

Hey, who knows? Make France great again! Rebuild the Maginot line and let Germany pay for it!

 

[kurczak]

But will it have a big, beautiful door in the Ardennes forest???

 

[Captured Joe]

It's gonna be a great door. A tremendous door. Everybody tells me how great that door is. The Germans love it. Honestly, I'm telling you, it's the greatest door.

 

[Vieira151]

I'm really worried about the potential result of this election.

After all, Le Pen is mightier than the sword.

 

[SacredStoneHead]

I'm really worried about the potential result of this election.

After all, Le Pen is mightier than the sword.

It's gonna be a great door. A tremendous door. Everybody tells me how great that door is. The Germans love it. Honestly, I'm telling you, it's the greatest door.

 

[Tarrantmw]

I'm not saying trump was ever ahead in the polls, I'm saying the polls had clinton winning by anywhere from 70-90% leading up to election night, and even on election night. Not anywhere close to just a 4% lead.

Chances of winning re not the same as margin of victory. Nobody ever said Clinton would beat Trump by 70-90% in total votes. Yes, they all strongly predicted her victory, maybe a landslide in electors, but not in total votes.

And you may kindly remember that Clinton did win the popular vote as everyone predicted.

Since France doesn't have states or electors or the winner-takes-all electors method, the only thing that matters is the popular vote and Macron is leading by a huge margin in that.

Correct, and I understand that.

Point being is you don't get touted as having a 70+ chance of winning while only being a tiny bit ahead.

Total votes didn't and don't matter because they don't decide the winner.

It's been a series of upsets, and for citing each upset previously there was a reason "that one" happened and "this one" won't.


Also, the wall just got 10feet higher 

 

[Antoine de Saint-Exupéry]

Correct, and I understand that.

Point being is you don't get touted as having a 70+ chance of winning while only being a tiny bit ahead.

So.... you don't understand it.

Total votes didn't and don't matter because they don't decide the winner.

Except they matter for the point kurczak was making. You may wish to reread the post.

It's been a series of upsets, and for citing each upset previously there was a reason "that one" happened and "this one" won't.

Conveniently ignoring everything that wasn't an upset. Nice series.

 

[omzdog]

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[Farquaad]

Well if she is like Trump and wins and follows the pattern of his post-election behavior, she will be a eurofederalist Muslim by the end of May.

A bit sensational, the guy blew up an empty airfield.

I'm really worried about the potential result of this election.

I'd be more worried about Macron than Le Pen - Macron is pretty much a male version of Hillary Clinton when it comes to globalism. Macron has made his stance on Assad very clear, and I shudder to think about what political favours for the Saudis or EU he'll partake in (and the consequences for the rest of the world).

 

[Úlfheðinn]

They both seem like boring people.

A bit sensational, the guy blew up an empty airfield.

I don't know, he's doing a pretty good job of being Hillary Clinton.

Although, maybe he did like her campaign promises more, so fair play.

 

[Farquaad]

I don't know, he's doing a pretty good job of being Hillary Clinton.

Although, maybe he did like her campaign promises more, so fair play.

I'll let his action against Assad be put down to the whole US global police thing. As long as he leaves Assad alone and takes care of NK from now on, we'll be fine.

The US Government's funding officially expires on April 28th. Once/if Trump's proposed budget gets passed (it's going to be big) and he starts to spend it in the ME, then you can officially call him Clinton.

Back on topic: he's still light years away from being on Macron's level though, so it's aight.

 

[kurczak]

Total votes didn't and don't matter because they don't decide the winner.

They do in France.

It's been a series of upsets, and for citing each upset previously there was a reason "that one" happened and "this one" won't.

What's been a series? You mean Brexit and Trump? The series of two?

Well if she is like Trump and wins and follows the pattern of his post-election behavior, she will be a eurofederalist Muslim by the end of May.

A bit sensational, the guy blew up an empty airfield.

Not attacking Syria. China as currency manipulator. Mexico paying for the wall. Prosecuting Clinton. NATO obsolete. Yellen gotta go. Export Import bank.

And probably more.

 

[Úlfheðinn]

I don't know.

We still have Obamacare, we still have a cesspool of ****ty corporate interest groups running Washington, we're blowing **** up in the Middle East, and we don't even have a wall (I was personally hoping for gun turrets as well). Even worse, both Obama and Hillary Clinton remain free!

It all sounds exactly like what would have happened if Hillary had won.

Do you think that Trump might be secretly be a Democrat? It would be the perfect coup, take over the Republican party, and secure decades of Democrat dominance in one fell-swoop.

 

[Austupaio]

Do you think that Trump might be secretly be a democrat?

Man, my guys in the militia underground have been barking up that tree for years.

 

[Úlfheðinn]

All the more suspicious given that Trump backed Democrats in the past.

Awfully convenient that once he gets elected he suddenly starts to struggle to repeal Obamacare and to prosecute Hillary/Obama.

 

[kurczak]

Trump could never be a Democrat. His 3% titanium tax doesn't go too far for Democrats who won't settle for anything less than 3%.