The French Presidential Elections of 2017. Be polite with each other please...

[Úlfheðinn]

It's ok, considering your (new) country (America) has saved the world in two world wars, I'm willing to forgive you for being Hitler.

 

[Gasset]

Guys, don't hyperventilate. Remember Le Pen's father once got to the second round of the presidential elections and inmediately got shut by the Front Républicain mentioned above.

Said the man nervously.

 

[SacredStoneHead]

I've been outed, after this I'm probably going to have to take a break from the forums.

Just make use of the ? trick: Li?erally Hi?ler.

Thanks Jacob.

 

[Captured Joe]

What even is that

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

In the 1970s two gangs, known as the Bloods and the Crips, formed in black communities in america. Their rivalry was so fierce that the Crips refused to use the letters B, BL or even CK which stands for "crip killer", out of ?ontempt for the Bloods. So "kicking back and relaxing" would become "kiccn bkacc and relaccsin". When people type "thicc" or "succ" these originate from Crip-text.

The Bloods on the other hand refused to use the letters C, CR or BK (blood killer). Their gang colour is also strictly red, so a lot of real bloods on WorldStarHipHop and elsewhere saw the ? emoji practically as a gang sign. Thus a phrase like "I got chocolate chip cookies in the compton prison cell" would become "I got bhocklate bhip boockies in the blompton prison bell"

Black twitter made fun of this around late 2015, and Australians and assorted thot patrol memesters picked up on this around early/mid 2016.

 

[Captured Joe]

Thanks for clearing it up, I thought it was just a TW thing.

 

[Kentucky 『 ＨＥＩＧＵＩ 』 James]

It's bigger than all of us.

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[Feragorn]

Thanks for clearing it up, I thought it was just a TW thing.

Taleworlds has no original memes.

 

[Captured Joe]

But the realted to several danish kings tho

 

[Feragorn]

Nope.

 

[Arcon]

Then again people like trump and Hugo Chavez both promised radical change and look where both nations are right now, USA is the butt of every joke, with the Russians taking a huge advantage of weak leadership, china taking the chance to expand her trade network in Asia, Latin  America pulling away from USA influence due to constant insults and Europe slowly tearing itself appart. (Which is of no benefit for the USA).

I'm not going to sit here and defend Trump, that's not my thing, but there's a few things I have to contest, especially when using Trump as an example to discuss other political issues.

'USA is the butt of every joke' - Yes, but that's been the case for the last 16, possibly even 24 years. Does this even matter? I don't really see memes, even pre-internet ones, as a particular good gauge of political sucess.

'Russians taking a huge advantage of weak leadership' - Within the US? I hear a lot of conspiracy theory and a lot of people talking about Putin running the white house but I have seen zero evidence or even compelling arguments to insinuate this. Trump is a shoddy president and some of his actions have certainly been influenced, but implying that Russia is actually affecting the country in any significant measure is very difficult for me to believe.

'China taking the chance to expand her trade network in Asia' - This is true, but again I kind of question the relevance, what does this really have to do with Trump? Why wouldn't this have been the case with Hillary? Either way, I think China's growing profile in all aspects is a good thing, maybe not for the US, but for the world anyway.

'Latin  America pulling away from USA influence due to constant insults and Europe slowly tearing itself appart' - I don't know much about the Latin American situation, but as for Europe tearing itself apart, I mean... why does this matter to Americans and Trump? I don't believe Clinton's election would have stopped Le Pen from running and her election would have probably failed just as it did with Trump in office, Hillary had enemies abroad too, less of them sure, but it's not like the state department situation would have been perfect. Either way, my question was not about the relevance, but about the impact. Yes, Trump has threatened the military stability of Europe, I just don't really see how this is a bad thing, for American citizens especially, but for many Europeans as well. I think the people who really get the short end of the stick are smaller nations incapable of defending themselves like most of those along the eastern borders, not Central and Western Europe.

A logical and sane viewpoint should not be tolerated in these forums! Don't you see, the Russian hysteria serves a political purpose so we must continue to brainwash people irregardless of facts? Some people like you really need to wake up and realize we must lie by inaccurately blaming the US and Trump for all the world's ills.

I mean, if we actually start telling the truth and having a logical debates based on facts and perspective, we would be forced to question our own beliefs, have productive discussions resulting in sound political policy and an informed population. The nerve you have here!

 

[Úlfheðinn]

We need to teach people basic statistics and research methodology first.

It's impressive how poorly educated people are here (both Europe and Freedomland), which makes it hard to have anything approaching a serious discussion. First, you must provide them the tools so that they can weigh the many insane claims of politicians.

Otherwise it all ends up like any other Political Science conference or Think Tank meeting.

 

[Flin Flon]

Then again people like trump and Hugo Chavez both promised radical change and look where both nations are right now, USA is the butt of every joke, with the Russians taking a huge advantage of weak leadership, china taking the chance to expand her trade network in Asia, Latin  America pulling away from USA influence due to constant insults and Europe slowly tearing itself appart. (Which is of no benefit for the USA).

On the other side of the political spectrum, all of Chavez's promises have come true; but with a very heavy price, the country has gone from being one of the wealthiest in LA to being one of the poorest.

Basically populism is awful, regardless of political leaning.

That seems like an unfair comparison. First, she's not a hysterical narcissist like the two. Second, I don't think her policies are divorced from reality like Chavez's or imaginary like Trump's. I've said it a couple of times here - 90+% of what she says would be mainstream, centrist Gaullism thirty years ago.

Unless being anti-EU automatically makes one far-right/far-left, I don't see what's extreme about her.

I'm very much for European integration and eventual federalization, but what the current EU establishment does is just holding-hands feel-good crap that antagonizes people. They all makes it sound like omg such landslide, muh crushing victory for Macron, but if Le Pen is really such an extreme, radical far-right, then maybe it should be a ****ing wake up call that 35% of people saw this literal Hitler as the lesser evil.

Almost as if the left-right spectrum is relative.

 

[kurczak]

Hm? Sure, but I was talking about her alleged far-ness, not so much about if she's left or right.

 

[nikosierra125]

Well the fact that trump supporters and a large Chunk of hillary supporters started talking about Russia (during the elections) as an equal in terms of military might and in terms of political influence is a HUGE HUGE deal.

After all everything in this world is based on people's perspectives, if the world sees Russia as equal to the USA; then by all means it's equal to it until proven otherwise! Putin is a freaking smart man, he's manipulated and exploited  (and maybe even caused, but that's a whole other discussion)  the world's political instability with a masterful adeptness. Confusing and scheming Russia's way back into political relativity.


After all you know the saying, you will always be judged and measure up against your enemies and rivals. If Russia is once again the USA's rival, it will be a huge boost to its economy, morale, diplomacy (with anti USA circles).

 

[Austupaio]

Well, it is. I think it's an ignorant to say otherwise. So is China, or the EU. I don't see what's so controversial about that.

 

[Almalexia]

Well the fact that trump supporters and a large Chunk of hillary supporters started talking about Russia (during the elections) as an equal in terms of military might and in terms of political influence is a HUGE HUGE deal.

After all everything in this world is based on people's perspectives, if the world sees Russia as equal to the USA; then by all means it's equal to it until proven otherwise! Putin is a freaking smart man, he's manipulated and exploited  (and maybe even caused, but that's a whole other discussion)  the world's political instability with a masterful adeptness. Confusing and scheming Russia's way back into political relativity.


After all you know the saying, you will always be judged and measure up against your enemies and rivals. If Russia is once again the USA's rival, it will be a huge boost to its economy, morale, diplomacy (with anti USA circles).

Until the oil runs out (soon), and then we can just go back to laughing at Russia and the ruble again.

 

[Varalir]

How soon?

 

[Dystopian]

Decades

 

[Varalir]

So has Le Pen won yet or what?