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The Big Problem with Combat -- Unit collision and mass
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As a player who who love to play DeI (Divide et Impera) mod in R2TW, I agree with the OP's reddit quote especially in the last paragraph, as Bannerlord in it's current form, takes a lot of immersion and enjoyment out of tactical gameplay.
Yep, I have played that mod religiously and I agree as well.
Mount and Blade had better collision than this.
Nevertheless
drallim33
Sergeant
This is I think the biggest problem with the game right now. It's ridiculous how they all stack on top of each other, but I don't think collision is the only problem. The way everyone slides around like they are floating, and start vibrating as they all try to push each other out of the way. It doesn't just look broken visually, it changes the entire feel of combat. That gamescom footage looks basically how warband was, so much better. It's like a completely different game. Actually it looks great I want to play that game.
Same thing happened to starcraft 2 compared to the original, they "improved" the pathing/collision so everything flows like water, but it completely changed the gameplay for the worse. The result was the same too, especially big battles were over really fast and you didn't have much control over them. You just send your blob and hope for the best.
Here we have 250v250 battle, over in seconds. The actual combat only takes about 45 seconds.
Same thing happened to starcraft 2 compared to the original, they "improved" the pathing/collision so everything flows like water, but it completely changed the gameplay for the worse. The result was the same too, especially big battles were over really fast and you didn't have much control over them. You just send your blob and hope for the best.
Here we have 250v250 battle, over in seconds. The actual combat only takes about 45 seconds.
This is I think the biggest problem with the game right now. It's ridiculous how they all stack on top of each other, but I don't think collision is the only problem. The way everyone slides around like they are floating, and start vibrating as they all try to push each other out of the way. It doesn't just look broken visually, it changes the entire feel of combat. That gamescom footage looks basically how warband was, so much better. It's like a completely different game. Actually it looks great I want to play that game.
Same thing happened to starcraft 2 compared to the original, they "improved" the pathing/collision so everything flows like water, but it completely changed the gameplay for the worse. The result was the same too, especially big battles were over really fast and you didn't have much control over them. You just send your blob and hope for the best.
Here we have 250v250 battle, over in seconds. The actual combat only takes about 45 seconds.
Yep these battles are over in a matter of a few minutes. That's the first thing I noticed about sieges, everyone floating flying around like on magic rugs. It's too fast for starters, sieges should never be over in less than 10 minutes.
Nalgasucia507
Squire
+1 on this issue.
The Luminary
Sergeant
It's like they had a much better version of bannerlord and gave us a still fun but troll af version.
Vaeringjar
Recruit
Aye, game is great but the blobbiness is a big turnoff
Dark Assassin
Recruit
Yes，If the soldiers are dense，Weapons will get stuck。
Shield wall and square and circle It's useless now, Soldiers can't fight back, They will only be slaughtered!
I would also note that in siege towers and gates unless you are leading your troops in front you can only attack up or down since side attacks are eitheir blocked by allies or by the walls of the gate or siege tower
Totally agree. Battles feel like blobs clashing mindlessly, nobody can take even half a swing, and its somehow all over in seconds. I fought a mega-battle between Vlandia and Khuzaits in late campaign, 1500vs1200.....the battle didnt last more than a few minutes (and thats only because of reinforcements).
I agree on the spacing, but I do find troops making way for you(their lord) aka pushing past them to be a change for the better as far as quality of life goes.
The regular spacing is wack and a slight increase to collision would likely make formations like square less useless as 3 guys aren't clipping into a single persons worth of attacks.
The regular spacing is wack and a slight increase to collision would likely make formations like square less useless as 3 guys aren't clipping into a single persons worth of attacks.
They should make way for you by moving their legs, not by sliding away
Lol this.
agustin242536
Recruit
+1 to this
