tempered weapons?

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i am playing mount &blade today and i saw a tempered great sword, its very expansive  ,should i buy it? i heard people say tempered weapons can 1 hit kill, is that true?

 

[Ludial]

not exactly. A tempered weapon is one that has been, obviously, tempered, so it`s more durable and can inflict greater damage. So basically a tempered great axe(which is immensely powerful to start with) has an even greater chance of one-hitting somebody, while a tempered nordic sword will simply cause some more damage. I personally prefer balanced weapons, since despite their smaller damage bonus compared to tempered and masterwork weapons(and I think even compared to heavy weapons) they`re faster than any. So with a balanced great sword(the one that looks like a sword of war) I do a lot more damage than with a great axe simply because I get a lot more successful hits because of the weapon`s speed(a slower weapon is very easy to block)

 

[Kalnia]

Damn you Ludial! Always getting to posts before me!

Yeah, as Ludial said, tempered, heavy, balanced or masterwork means the peice of kit you're viewing is better then the normal one. I think its sums up as;

Masterwork: Best damage, faster then normal, tempered and heavy..

Balanced: Better then normal model damage, fastest.

Tempered: More damage then normal model, heavy (I think...) and balanced, faster then normal and heavy.

Heavy: More damage then normal model.

I have seen bastard swords that are heavy and balanced I think. Could be wrong on that front.

 

[Ludial]

you have the regular bastard sword and the heavy bastard sword. Damage is the same, but the heavy is ever so slightly longer and slower than the regular. Which is why I prefer a balanced bastard sword - its speed rating is comparable to that of the faster one-handed swords, while the length difference with the heavy is negligible. Weirdly enough, the regular and heavy bastard swords have the same weight

 

[Dragon13]

you have the regular bastard sword and the heavy bastard sword. Damage is the same, but the heavy is ever so slightly longer and slower than the regular. Which is why I prefer a balanced bastard sword - its speed rating is comparable to that of the faster one-handed swords, while the length difference with the heavy is negligible. Weirdly enough, the regular and heavy bastard swords have the same weight

The damage for the heavy is a little more than the standard. Heavy bastard sword is the name of a separate weapon.

 

[Ludial]

yes, they`re separate weapons. No, there is no damage difference, only length and speed rating difference. You can recognize the two different swords by the color of the hilt - heavy is black, regular is light brownish/ochre/pinkish/whatever...

 

[duracell]

The trusting damage of the heavy bastard sword is slightly higher.

 

[Ludial]

well, I can`t know that since I don`t use thrusts and hence do not consider piercing damage when looking at a sword

 

[Moss]

The "heavy bastard sword" is not the same as other weapons with the label "heavy", it's just another type of sword, not a bastard sword with a modifier. Because of that you'll notice "Tempered/balanced Heavy Bastard Swords" appearing in stores.

As to the modifiers certain ones only appear on certain weapons.

Axes, polearms, crossbows (except for the Heavy crossbow) and hammers get the "Heavy" modifier instead of Tempered. Heavy increases damage whilst lowering speed. Some swords may also have "Heavy" versions.

Swords get "Tempered", which slightly increases speed and increases damage.

All melee weapons get a "Balanced" modifier which increases weapon speed and damage to a small degree.

Bows get "Strong" (except for the Strong Bow, which only has a Masterwork version), which increases damage, and lowers speed by a small amount.

"Masterwork" bows increase damage to a greater extent than the "Strong" version, but increase the power draw requirement significantly. The same applies for "Masterwork" crossbows, but with strength requirement increased instead.

"Thick", "Reinforced" and "Lordly" armour increase the armor value of the weapon, with each greater than the last.

"Heavy" Horses have greater charge, armor and health values, "Spirited" are faster and more maneuverable and "Champion" are better than both. Whilst "Lame" refers to a horse that has been injured, but leaving them in your inventory for a week without riding them will cause them to recover to the stats of a normal unmodified horse.

And all the negative modifiers, like "Rusty", "Chipped" and "Swaybacked" are all pretty self explanatory.

Hope that helps.

 

[mournful]

not exactly. A tempered weapon is one that has been, obviously, tempered, so it`s more durable and can inflict greater damage. So basically a tempered great axe(which is immensely powerful to start with) has an even greater chance of one-hitting somebody, while a tempered nordic sword will simply cause some more damage. I personally prefer balanced weapons, since despite their smaller damage bonus compared to tempered and masterwork weapons(and I think even compared to heavy weapons) they`re faster than any. So with a balanced great sword(the one that looks like a sword of war) I do a lot more damage than with a great axe simply because I get a lot more successful hits because of the weapon`s speed(a slower weapon is very easy to block)

I agree with all of this. Tempered seems to also be more expensive than balanced weapons. I prefer balanced weapons but I've also though that weapons should occasionally get damaged or broken. Kind of like with horses getting lamed, sometimes weapons should get chipped or bent during combat. If this were the case, tempered weapons could also be more durable and less likely to get damaged.

 

[Sir Lulzalot]

I usually tend to get balanced or tempered until I can find the masterwork model, I guess its just a matter of preference.

 

[Kalnia]

When it all comes down to it, a great axe to the face is a great axe to the face, no matter if its tempered, balance, rusty, whatever! 

 

[n00b]

i am playing mount &blade today and i saw a tempered great sword, its very expansive  ,should i buy it? i heard people say tempered weapons can 1 hit kill, is that true?

They aren't always worth the cost. Tempered crap weapons are just overpriced normal weapons..... 

 

[Ludial]

When it all comes down to it, a great axe to the face is a great axe to the face, no matter if its tempered, balance, rusty, whatever! 

unless you can avoid it, which is not that hard. A 3 foot sword blade to the neck, however, is something else

 

[Virmin]

Here's some hard data:
Balanced modifier 3+ damage 3+ speed, Cost of normal 350%
Tempered modifier 4+ damage, Cost of normal 670%
Masterwork modifier 5+ damage 1+ speed, Cost of normal 1750%

 

[Ludial]

Here's some hard data:
Balanced modifier 3+ damage 3+ speed, Cost of normal 350%
Tempered modifier 4+ damage, Cost of normal 670%
Masterwork modifier 5+ damage 1+ speed, Cost of normal 1750%

which means balanced is the best not only in performance, but also in theory. Cheers

 

[Argos]

Here's some hard data:
Balanced modifier 3+ damage 3+ speed, Cost of normal 350%
Tempered modifier 4+ damage, Cost of normal 670%
Masterwork modifier 5+ damage 1+ speed, Cost of normal 1750%

which means balanced is the best not only in performance, but also in theory. Cheers

If speed is your only concern, then yes. But some of us like damage too, and I think +2damage is better than +2speed.

I do agree that balanced is often the best choice when all factors, including price, are considered.

 

[Ludial]

speed IS my only concern with 2h weapons. If I can`t hit cuz my weapon is too slow, having +2 damage means **** all!(for the record, I don`t use 1h weapons, I think they`re too weak... well, except the balanced scimitar )

 

[Dragon13]

speed IS my only concern with 2h weapons. If I can`t hit cuz my weapon is too slow, having +2 damage means **** all!(for the record, I don`t use 1h weapons, I think they`re too weak... well, except the balanced scimitar )

Unless you have a crazy high 2-h weapon proficiency, then it won't really matter...cause then you will have the same speed with a great axe as with a great sword.

 

[Ludial]

speed IS my only concern with 2h weapons. If I can`t hit cuz my weapon is too slow, having +2 damage means **** all!(for the record, I don`t use 1h weapons, I think they`re too weak... well, except the balanced scimitar )

Unless you have a crazy high 2-h weapon proficiency, then it won't really matter...cause then you will have the same speed with a great axe as with a great sword.

at the same proficiency the sword will still be faster.