Tardet's New Gambling House | SEMI FINALS are LIVE

[Tardet]

Introduction:

Welcome to what could act (this depends on you!) as the new betting corner of the Warband Native League Season 8. By now, most of you should be familiar with the concept offered in previous editions but for the potential newcomers, a betting corner is usually a place where you can test your competitive knowledge by betting on the tournament's weekly results. With that being said, due to a decrease of interest as of late, this edition will be slightly different than some corners hosted in the past. We will come back to a format which I believe Captain Lust has already used, where every participant are given a sum of coin to start with and have the choice to gamble their virtual money on weekly featured matches from all three divisions. I have tested this format in an important competition on NW about a year or two ago and this was fairly popular so this should hopefully help regain activity when it comes to warband matches betting.

If it wasn't enough, there is also 100 euros worth of steam gifts to be won at the end of the competition, for the top 3 winners. Will you decide to burn all your cash in one evening of crazy bettings or will you prefer going for the long-term - and more tactical - approach in order to get the number one spot in the rankings? Either way, grabs your denars and come join us! ​

Basic Concept:

- Anyone is welcome to participate in this gambling house, whether or not you find yourself playing in the WNL.
- Every participant will be given a starting sum of 40 denars, as a welcome gift from the house.
- This currency doesn't carry any particular value, real or virtual, except it helps to rank each participant. If you have 220 denars, and someone else has 230, this person shall appear above you in the rankings.
- The gambling house is a weekly feature. You can bet on one, two, three or all of the featured matches.
- The minimum amount to bet on a match is 1 denar. There is no maximum.
- A public excel tabler will be used to display the current results of each weekly bettings, current rankings and participants.
- You cannot give your denars to a friend.
- The bettings for a match close 5 minutes prior to its starting time.
- If you wish to change one of your bets, always re-post a message including which one you would like to modify. If you post a bet and edit your message later on without saying anything, your bet may be deemed as null and void. If this happens frequently, this could be considered as fraud and you may even find yourself removed from the gambling house.

Odds Mechanism:

Because not all matches have the same stakes due to the strength of each participant, each of them will have their own odds. These odds effectively represent the multiplicator impacting every single bet.

Spoiler: Exemple A

Apis Europae 1.40 / 3 / 1.70 Renegades

In this example, this match opposes two teams of arguably similar strengths. Because they are in theory of the same level, the odds are gonna be rather similar. With that being said, in that example, Apis Europae is considered to be having a small edge compared to Renegades and this edge shall be represented in the odds.

The '1.40', on the left, represents the multiplicator applied on the bets which give Apis Europae victorious. Effectively, it means that if you did bet 10 denars on Apis Europae, you will receive 14 in case of a victory on their side. The '1.70', on the right, represents the multiplicator applied on the bets which give Renegades victorious. Effectively, it means that if you did bet 10 denars on Renegades, you will receive 17 in case of a victory on their side.

PS: The data in the middle, '3' in the example, represents the odd for the draw. Due to the nature of native matches, even for arguably close encounters, it still very hazardous to bet on a draw as they are a rare occurrence. For that reason, the multiplicator is stronger for a draw, than it is for a victory on either side.

Spoiler: Exemple B

Apis Europae 1.10 / 6 / 7 Heroes of Agincourt

In this example, this match opposes two teams of very different strengths. To reflect this skill-gap, the odds are very different. You gain pretty much nothing if you bet on Apis Europae because their chances of taking the victory against Agincourt are very high. Still, ff you decided to take a risk and bet on Agincourt, your reward will reflect the risk taken and in that case, your bet will be multiplicated by 7 in case of an upset.

Prizes:

1st Place -> 60 €
2nd Place -> 30 €
3rd Place -> 10€

Prizes can be redeemed as steam gifts or via paypal, depending on your preferences.

 

[Tardet]

Rankings:

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[Tardet]

Weekly Matches:

Division A​	Division B​	Division C​
Frontline Tactics - 1.4 | 2 - House Stark​	Fallen Pride - 1.9 | 1.5 - Invictus Legion​	Men of Borr 1.7 | 1.5 Kobetourage​
Unity - 1.6 | 1.8 - Knights of Malta​	Assyrian Empire - 1.5 | 1.9 - Defender of Faith​

Spoiler: Week 6

Division A​	Division B​	Division C​
Ferocious Trident Wielders - 1.6 | 1.8 - House Stark​	Fallen Pride - 1.4 | 1.9 - Rivia​	The Yummy Senate 1.7 | 1.5 Men of Borr​
Unity - 1.2 | 2.8 - Doner​	Assyrian Empire - 1.9 | 1.4 - Warbandits​
	Invictus Legion - 1.5 | 1.7 Belediye Şövalyeleri​

Spoiler: Week 5

Promotion A - B ​	Promotion B - C​
House Stark - 1.3 | 2.2 - House Dayne of Starfall​	Men of Borr - 1.4 | 1.8 - Rivia​
New Warband Order - 1.4 | 2 - Doner​	The Yummy Senate - 1.8 | 1.3 - Warbandits​

Spoiler: Week 4

Division A​	Division B​
Frontline Tactics - 1.3 | 4.5 | 1.7 - Ferocious Trident Wielders​	House Dayne of Starfall - 1.5 | 2,5 | 1.7 - Doner​
Knights of Malta - 1.3 | 4.5 | 1.7 - New Warband Order​	Menace - 1.6 | 2,5 | 1.5 - Defender of Faith​
Unity - 1.3 | 4.5 | 1.7 - House Stark​	Fallen Pride - 1.4 | 3 | 1.6 - Invictus Legion​
	Men of Borr - 1.4 | 3,5 | 1.7 - Assyrian Empire​
	Belediye Şövalyeleri - 1.4 | 3,5 | 1.7 - The Yummy Senate​

Spoiler: Week 3

Division A​	Division B​
Frontline Tactics - 1.3 | 3 | 1.5 - Unity​	House Dayne of Starfall - 1.4 | 3.5 | 1.7 - Defender of Faith​
Knights of Malta - 1.4 | 4.5 | 1.7 - House Stark​	Doner - 1.7 | 3 | 1.5 - Invictus Legion​
Ferocious Trident Wielders - 1.4 | 2.5 | 1.6 - New Warband Order​	Menace - 1.5 | 2.5 | 1.4 - Men of Borr​
	Belediye Şövalyeleri - 1.4 | 2.5 | 1.6 - Fallen Pride​
	The Yummy Senate - 1.4 | 3.5 | 1.8 - Assyrian Empire​

Spoiler: Week 2

Division A​	Division B​
Frontline Tactics - 1.3 | 3.5 | 1.6 - Knights of Malta​	House Dayne of Starfall - 1.3 | 3.5 | 1.7 - Invictus Legion​
Ferocious Trident Wielders - 1.7 | 4 | 1.3 - Unity​	Defender of Faith - 1.4 | 3 | 1.7 - Doner​
House Stark - 1.4 | 3 | 1.6 - New Warband Order​	Fallen Pride - 1.3 | 3 | 1.7 - Men of Borr​
	The Yummy Senate - 1.4 | 4 | 1.7 - Menace​
	Belediye Şövalyeleri - 1.4 | 2.5 | 1.6 - Assyrian Empire​

Spoiler: Week 1

Division A​	Division B​
Ferocious Trident Wielders - 1.4 | 2.5 | 1.6 - House Stark​	Fallen Pride - 1.3 | 2 | 1.6 - Yummy Senate​
Frontline Tactics - 1.2 | 2 | 2.5 - New Warband Order​	Men of Borr - 1.6 | 2 | 1.3 - Invictus Legion​
Knights of Malta - 1.7 | 2 | 1.4 - Unity​	Defender of Faith - 1.7 | 2 | 1.4 - Belediye Şövalyeleri​
	Assyrian Empire - 1.4 | 2 | 1.8 - House Dayne of Starfall​
	Menace - 1.6 | 2 | 1.4 - Doner​

Template:

[B]Your nickname[/B]:
[B]Your current team in the WNL (if any)[/B]:
[B]Which match are you betting on:[/B] Team A vs Team B
[B]Result:[/B] Team A won / Team B won / Draw
[B]Bet amount:[/B] X denar(s)

 

[Apollo ?]

Sounds great Tardet, great idea I will for sure place a few bets down. Nice one fella!

 

[Elwaen]

 

[Tardet]

I will be adding the weekly featured matches tonight at the latest. Please, do note that while I intend to offer matches from all three divisions, the first weeks of the gambling house will mostly feature matches from Division A & B. This is no mean to disrespect Division C teams, however, I want to provide fair odds for every matches featured here, in order to avoid flaws in the system. By Week 3, I should have gathered enough insights about Division C to feature some of their matches on here and give them odds which make 'some' sense.

Because I am not omniscient, I am more than happy to receive help from people who want to help working out the odds every week. In the same idea, if some people want to help me run the gambling house as a whole (editing the sheet, thread, etc ..) then do not hesitate to reach me out. Same thing if you have other suggestions on how to improve the gambling house rules/system. The more suggestions I receive, the better and more entertaining it will be.

Last but not least, I can't help but warning certain people about how you manage your coins. It's a fun contest, but it remains a contest nonetheless. If you want to burn your cash on super risky odds and have fun that way, be my guest. But do not come back by Week 2 asking for a refill because I won't oblige.

Edit: Added the first poll to clarify an important point.

 

[Tardet]

Week 1 Matches:

Division A​	Division B​
Ferocious Trident Wielders - 1.4 | 2.2 | 1.6 - House Stark​	Fallen Pride - 1.3 | 2 | 1.6 - Yummy Senate​
Frontline Tactics - 1.2 | 2 | 2.2 - New Warband Order​	Men of Borr - 1.6 | 2 | 1.3 - Invictus Legion​
Knights of Malta - 1.7 | 2 | 1.4 - Unity​	Defender of Faith - 1.7 | 2 | 1.4 - Belediye Şövalyeleri​
	Assyrian Empire - 1.4 | 2 | 1.8 - House Dayne of Starfall​
	Menace - 1.6 | 2 | 1.4 - Doner​

Template:

[B]Your nickname[/B]:
[B]Your current team in the WNL (if any)[/B]:
[B]Which match are you betting on:[/B] Team A vs Team B
[B]Result:[/B] Team A won / Team B won / Draw
[B]Bet amount:[/B] X denar(s)

About the odds: I respect every opinion and you are free to share them but try to understand that it's inevitably going to change from one person to another and I cannot make odds based on everyone's personal opinion. I try to take roster strength AND the teams' current form into account but I also don't want to give too much importance to practice matches because I know official often end-up looking different.

With that being said, if you see something which REALLY feels wrong, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Enjoy betting and play responsibly.

 

[Gibby Jr]

Your nickname: Gibby
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 20 denars

Your nickname: Gibby
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Defenders of Faith vs Belediye Şövalyeleri
Result: Belediye Şövalyeleri win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: Gibby
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Assyrian Empire vs House Dayne of Starfall
Result: House Dayne of Starfall win
Bet amount: 5 denars

Your nickname: Gibby
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Knights of Malta vs Unity
Result: Unity win
Bet amount: 5 denars

 

[Percival!!]

Your nickname: Percival
Your current team in the WNL: Teutonic
Which match are you betting on:[/B] Assyrian Empire vs House Dayne of Starfall
Result: House Dayne of Starfall win
Bet amount: 5 denar(s)

Your nickname: Percival
Your current team in the WNL: Teutonic
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 5 denar(s)

Your nickname: Percival
Your current team in the WNL: Teutonic
Which match are you betting on: Defenders of Faith vs Belediye
Result: Defenders of Faith
Bet amount: 20 denar(s)

Your nickname: Percival
Your current team in the WNL: Teutonic
Which match are you betting on: Menace vs Doner
Result: Menace
Bet amount: 10 denar(s)

 

[Fietta]

Your nickname: Fietta
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Assyrian Empire
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 20 denars

Your nickname: Fietta
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Assyrian Empire
Which match are you betting on: Defenders of Faith vs Belediye Şövalyeleri
Result: Belediye Şövalyeleri win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: Fietta
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Assyrian Empire
Which match are you betting on: Assyrian Empire vs House Dayne of Starfall
Result: Assyrian Empire win
Bet amount: 5 denars

Your nickname: Fietta
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Assyrian Empire
Which match are you betting on: FT vs nWo
Result: nwo win
Bet amount: 5 denars

 

[theDonut]

really cool work Tardet, tbh
Gonna be posting bets in here I guess soon or another post

My opinion is if there's any kind of money involved there shouldn't be room for foul play.

Update:

Your nickname: donut
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Warbandits
Wich match are you betting on: FT vs NwO
Result: FT win
Bet amount: 40 denars

 

[Easter Cow]

Your nickname: Cow
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Kobetourage
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: Cow
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Kobetourage
Which match are you betting on: Defenders of Faith vs Belediye Şövalyeleri
Result: Defenders of Faith win
Bet amount: 5 denars

Your nickname: Cow
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Kobetourage
Which match are you betting on: Fercious Trident Warriors vs House Stark
Result: Ferocious Trident Warriors win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: Cow
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Kobetourage
Which match are you betting on: FT vs nWo
Result: FT win
Bet amount: 10 denars

 

[Cobra-la]

Your nickname: Cobra
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Senate
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 20 denars

Your nickname: Cobra
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Senate
Which match are you betting on: FT vs NwO
Result: FT win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: Cobra
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Senate
Which match are you betting on: Assyrian Empire vs House Dayne of Starfall
Result: House Dayne of Starfall win
Bet amount: 10 denars

 

[MMace]

Your nickname: Mace
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Malta
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 20 denars

Your nickname: Mace
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Malta
Which match are you betting on: FTW vs House Stark
Result: FTW win
Bet amount: 20 denars

 

[Thorin]

Your nickname: Thorin
Your current team in the WNL (if any): BLD
Wich match are you betting on: Defenders of Faith vs Belediye Şövalyeleri
Result: BLD win
Bet amount: 20 denars

Your nickname: Thorin
Your current team in the WNL (if any): BLD
Wich match are you betting on: FTW vs House Stark(fake BE)
Result: FTW win
Bet amount: 20 denars

 

[Tardet]

really cool work Tardet, tbh
Gonna be posting bets in here I guess soon or another post

My opinion is if there's any kind of money involved there shouldn't be room for foul play.

Thank you! I was a tad worried people wouldn't be interested in the whole thing after a day without a single bet but I reckon it just required one person to start (thanks Gibbo) for others to follow-up.

About the risks involved with people being able to bet on their own team's result, I agree we should minimize the risks as much as possible, which is harder said than done. Right now it seems a majority of people are in favor of betting on their own matches, but I believe that's mostly to bet on their win, not the other way around. With that being said, there is indeed a risk that moving forward, some people figure out that it's more interesting to try and gain real money (regardless of how small the amount is) rather than give your best in a match where the outcome might not mean 'much' in the grand scheme of the competition standings. There is no point turning a blind eye to it, it's a possibilty I was fully aware of when I decided to involve real money and that's why I will try to be extremly careful with any fishy bets/results.

At the end of the day we are a small community and fishy behaviours such as match fixing are hard to keep within a private sphere for too long. I have confidence we will learn about any potential issues in time so that nobody end-ups receiving a prize they do not deserve. As per usual, I appreciate any help/concern, yada yada.

Ps: Corrected a few typos in the template, thanks Mace & Cow.

 

[Charlini]

Your nickname: Charlini
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Fallen Pride vs Senate
Result: Senate win
Bet amount: 20 denars

Your nickname: Charlini
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Defenders of Faith vs Belediye Şövalyeleri
Result: Belediye Şövalyeleri win
Bet amount: 15 denars

Your nickname: Charlini
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Frontline Tactics
Which match are you betting on: Knights of Malta vs Unity
Result: Unity win
Bet amount: 5 denars

 

[Ｄｕｓｔ]

get a life you pleb

 

[Elwaen]

Your nickname: Elwaen
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Dayne
Which match are you betting on: Knights of Malta vs Unity
Result: Unity win
Bet amount: 20 denars


Your nickname: Elwaen
Your current team in the WNL (if any): Dayne
Which match are you betting on: Assyrian Empire vs- House Dayne of Starfall
Result: Dayne win,
Bet amount: 20 denar(s)

 

[huN]

Your nickname: huN
Your current team in the WNL (if any): DONER
Which match are you betting on: FT vs. nWo
Result: FT win
Bet amount: 10 denar(s)

Your nickname: huN
Your current team in the WNL (if any): DONER
Which match are you betting on: FTW vs. House Stark
Result: FTW win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: huN
Your current team in the WNL (if any): DONER
Which match are you betting on: Assyrian Empire vs. House Dayne of Starfall
Result: Dayne win
Bet amount: 10 denars

Your nickname: huN
Your current team in the WNL (if any): DONER
Which match are you betting on: Men of Borr vs. Invictus Legion
Result: MoB win
Bet amount: 10 denars