Jacob, you are not from a country that has any historical experience with Russia nor any experience with foreign occupation, widespread destruction and war crimes, being a puppet state, oppression and human rights abuse or with authoritarianism as such.
Yeah, of course they are not comparable. Britain was objectively worse in every level imaginable.how the UK is comparable to central and eastern Europe in regards to its experience with authoritarianism
Ah, didn't know that at all. Accept my apologies, please.Wait a sec, I just read this bit properly. I'm not going to turn this into oppression olympics, because the ČSSR and Jamaica are fundamentally different cases, but come on man.
Czechia privilege
Yeah, of course they are not comparable. Britain was objectively worse in every level imaginable.
The overall maneurism You just don't substantiate and instead snipe from afar. Unless it is LOTR, that is. Heck, I would still be very much interested in what you see as a possible counterweight to rising global power of billionares if not the (nation) states.also, what exactly is remotely edgy about that?
i don't see (nation-)states doing much of anything in terms of being counterweights. as far as i can tell they've always very much been on the same side of the scale as the billionaires, and i don't see that meaningfully changing in the foreseeable future. the structure of the state is not capable of being a counterweight, though many marxists will yell at me for saying so.Heck, I would still be very much interested in what you see as a possible counterweight to rising global power of billionares if not the (nation) states.
i am often quite happy to discuss these things in detail given the right circumstances, but also there's plenty of substance behind what i say even when it's snarky. i don't really say things without a reason, generally i expect the people on the other end to have the capacity to think it through. though whether or not they choose to is up to them.You just don't substantiate and instead snipe from afar.
it is my one weakness.Unless it is LOTR, that is.
Hey, I think it might maybe have something to do with this recent thing that is happening. You must have heard, you know, how Russia attacked another country with its full military might. For a territorial conquest, I might add. Crazy, I know!I cannot help but comment and even be a bit frustrated when there's an apparent and huge wave of hate against Russia and for some reason, anything connected to Russia, of any period (there are even Russian literature subjects taken down from Universities, ballets cancelled etc.; yeah, good job on being objective and on the side of righteous, West). The "West" and NATO, especially, have about the same or more on their belt, when war crimes are concerned, in the past ~30 years, alone. But somehow, they get away, or almost, scot-free.
Cough, cough, the EUi don't see (nation-)states doing much of anything in terms of being counterweights. as far as i can tell they've always very much been on the same side of the scale as the billionaires, and i don't see that meaningfully changing in the foreseeable future. the structure of the state is not capable of being a counterweight, though many marxists will yell at me for saying so.
i don't know that there's anything that can be an actual counterweight. there are things you can do within the system to lessen its impact, and there are things you can do beyond it to try to build something else, but that's a different framework entirely.
The reel shows post-war transports of Germans to Germany. It's a happy footage of people dodging a bullet and getting a free ticket to a freer, wealthier country full of people like them.a (seemingly) Czech video, with sad music, showing (one instance of, followed and preceded no doubt by others, but absolutely not of a period, say, of about 400 years) people deported and admittedly on their way for a slower or quicker "disposal"
Yes, thank you, that is something that escaped my attention completely. You do realize that I ranted exactly about that, right? How this unwarranted invasion was vilified by everyone in the cultured West, in a propaganda war of epic proportions and quite frankly, ridiculous counter-measures, devoid of any significance to the actual people who should be blamed (yes, I'm sure Putin was severely butt-hurt that Russia can't take part in the cringe-fest that is called Eurovision or that the Uni of Athens doesn't give lectures on Tolstoy; that showed the guy).Hey, I think it might maybe have something to do with this recent thing that is happening. You must have heard, you know, how Russia attacked another country with its full military might. For a territorial conquest, I might add. Crazy, I know!
That's about the most precise definition of his very annoying behavior. The worst thing about it he lacks all self-awareness about this.Will this be another Monty wandering into a thread with an edgy sentence devoid of substance, never to be seen again moment or are you going to expand on how the UK is comparable to central and eastern Europe in regards to its experience with authoritarianism?
i am often quite happy to discuss these things in detail given the right circumstances, but also there's plenty of substance behind what i say even when it's snarky. i don't really say things without a reason, generally i expect the people on the other end to have the capacity to think it through. though whether or not they choose to is up to them.
Iraq and Afghanistan weren't wars of conquest, though. The furthest NATO went in attempting conquest/colonization was propping up democratic governments with mixed results. NATO didn't even engage in combat against a state in Afghanistan recognized by more than 3 other countries (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE). According to a PIPA poll 82% of Aghans wanted the previous Taliban government overthrown, and this strong skew held across all ethnic groups in Afghanistan (though I'd bet the Hazaras polled even higher). The government we propped up there also polled very high while Hamid Karzai was president. Most surprisingly, 79% of those polled said they approved of the NATO invasion of their country. The biggest tragedy of the whole situation in Afghanistan is that we just left them to the mercy of the Taliban, so they're right back where they started.And at the same time, NATO has escaped "attacks on another country with full military might, for a territorial conquest" with excuses like "but they had WMDs/they were communists/they were terrorists/they threatened liberty and freedom! I swear!". Of course, those were attacks on Afghans, Arabs etc. That might have something to do with Europeans not really giving a ****, I think.
I think people should be careful not to mix up US and NATO actions.Iraq's a different kettle of fish, where NATO severely ****ed up by tossing the entirety of the previous (functional) government out and barring them from working in any way for the new government. This included all Ba'ath party members who worked for the government but in non-governing roles, such as thousands of teachers. Because the Ba'ath government and previous Iraqi Army had strong Sunni representation (though both were "officially" secular) and history of violent repression of Shia Muslims (not to mention the invasion of Iran, a Shiite-majority country), the new Shiite-majority government is viewed with suspicion and accused of repressing Sunnis in turn. By getting rid of experienced government personnel who were largely Sunni and against the invasion, then supporting those who were opponents of the previous government (predominantly Shiites), NATO ended up inflaming an existing religious schism.
If you aren't foaming at the mouth in opposition to [thing I dislike], then you're actively a secret supporter of [thing I dislike], justifying both ad hominem and strawman attacks.Ultimately, I just got no beef in this fight.
Really? Where's this going on? That's definitely going full R.there are even Russian literature subjects taken down from Universities, ballets cancelled etc
IDK about wherever you're from but actually public opinion has been pretty hard against these invasions in the UK for most of my lifetime, I was too young at the time we first invaded to know how people felt about it when the decision was made.And at the same time, NATO has escaped "attacks on another country with full military might, for a territorial conquest" with excuses like "but they had WMDs/they were communists/they were terrorists/they threatened liberty and freedom! I swear!". Of course, those were attacks on Afghans, Arabs etc. That might have something to do with Europeans not really giving a ****, I think.