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:lol: Well, I guess that'll prove that those links are blue for me, if nothing else.

Either way, in response to -
I personally saw it as a typical libertarian on facebook going "Before we argue, please watch this 1 hour long video and read this work by Ayn Rand".
I don't see it as unreasonable to ask someone to watch the video if you're specifically asking for an opinion on the video itself. It's not like they were already debating and then she pulled it out.
 
Farquaad 说:
RabbleKnight 说:
Could you leave the forum?
Kthxbye  :mrgreen:

Nobody likes Quebec, or the French in general, why don't you leave?


even worse is that you're a wannabe Frenchman, Canadian.
:lol:
I'm no wannabe French.
I'm Quebecois. Learn the difference you ****ing buffoon.  :razz:
 
Austupaio 说:
:lol: Well, I guess that'll prove that those links are blue for me, if nothing else.

Either way, in response to -
I personally saw it as a typical libertarian on facebook going "Before we argue, please watch this 1 hour long video and read this work by Ayn Rand".
I don't see it as unreasonable to ask someone to watch the video if you're specifically asking for an opinion on the video itself. It's not like they were already debating and then she pulled it out.
True, true. But two videos approximately 1 hour in total might be an unrealistic demand for most users if the poster merely wants comments. I would have been able to tell her straight out of hand that the channel isn't reliable had I not been busy chasing down tyrants. But then again, she has posted videos from similar channels before, so it was for me pretty clear that she similarly to what Urgrevling said, wanted confirmation in order for her to feel good.
 
Sure, but like I said, the original youtuber provides two text-based summaries of his sources for reach of the two videos

I also have no intention of watching an hour of videos, but checking the sources isn't that bad.
 
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*Not that this is what Folth's doing, I just considered it fairly apt for the "Before we argue, please watch this 1 hour long video and read this work by Ayn Rand" thing.
 
Úlfheðinn 说:
kurczak 说:
[quote author=Urgrevling]
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Dude, what happened to you when you were gone?

The wolves, man, the wolves.
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What have we done...can we go back to the happy-go-lucky-here's-a-500-word-piece-on-aspirated-vowels-in-the-ionian-dialect Urgrevling?
 
Gestricius 说:
I personally saw it as a typical libertarian on facebook going "Before we argue, please watch this 1 hour long video and read this work by Ayn Rand".
What's wrong with knowing what you're discussing about before discussing about it? If you're going to start an actual debate I'd presume that you're not just going to go with your opinions on the matter.
 
Comrade Temuzu 说:
What's wrong with knowing what you're discussing about before discussing about it?

There's a difference between being clued up on a subject, and outright demanding somebody watch/read a long-ass video/article of your choosing and then berate them for not following your orders. The vast majority of people do just go with their own opinions on any matter. Only somebody with their head some way up their ass would go out of their way to do specific research just to involve themselves in an internet debate.
 
I don't know about that, I suppose it's a matter of semantics but there is a difference between a discussion and an actual debate. For instance, most of what gets posted here is discussion, but you can see some good examples of debate on the religion threads for example.

Yes, ordering someone to do research on a subject before discussing it is somewhat arrogant, but asking the same for a debate would in my opinion be just common sense. I realize I might be contradicting myself but I have some sort of a fever going on so my mind is all over the place.
 
kurczak 说:
What have we done...can we go back to the happy-go-lucky-here's-a-500-word-piece-on-aspirated-vowels-in-the-ionian-dialect Urgrevling?

I don't feel different but maybe I'm in a weird place lately.  It could be a good idea for me to stop ****posting and go back to linguistics since that's what I know (a little).
Austupaio 说:
But yeah, the world has changed with the coming of the Internet and people are increasingly living in their own bubble. That doesn't mean we should shrug our shoulders and retreat further into that bubble, which is what you end up doing if you get your information from youtubers.
I agree with you that this is the age of the echo chamber, I just don't agree that it's completely limited to the internet. It greatly exacerbates the effect, but many facets of modern society are responsible here. I agree again that you should not just accept that, but I disagree that is what you're doing by seeking a second opinion on anything from one of the best sources of (largely, with many caveats) free information out there, which is Youtube. Basically anyone, from the village idiot to a literal PhD world-renowned expert on a topic, can make a Youtube channel and put information and opinions out there. If you can't see the value in that, I don't know what to tell you. Retreating further into the bubble of your favourite news network, whether that's MSNBC, CNN, Fox, Huff Po or the BBC is just as bad as watching literally only one Youtube channel.
Sorry I dropped out of the debate, Aust, if you're reading this. I'm not necessarily convinced on the merits of youtubers but at this point it pretty much comes down to you and I disagreeing on what kind of standards the media is beholden to. And comparing getting news from somewhere like the BBC to getting it from a single youtube channel is pretty baffling to me. I'm not sure we're ever going to meet even halfway on this point.
 
I reckon the halfway point would be an agreement that it's best to get your information from multiple different news sources, one of which could a reputable, professional YouTube channel.

For example, I get my tech news from Engadget, The Verge, Gizmodo, and Linus Tech Tips. I certainly consider Gizmodo to be the least reputable by far - or at least it's the one whose journalists I generally dislike reading the most. Mostly due to style and ever so slightly forced sensationalism.
 
Don't worry about fake news anymore. Russia has us covered:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/22/world/europe/russia-fake-news-media-foreign-ministry-.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

The spokeswoman emphasized that the Foreign Ministry would consider the
news fake when it failed to include Russian reaction or the Russian position on the issue.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/world/asia/kansas-attack-possible-hate-crime-srinivas-kuchibhotla.html?_r=0

Kansas reeled on Friday as a shooting at a bar, which left one Indian engineer dead and another injured, escalated into an international incident amid fears that the attack was motivated by bias and hate.
At least one witness said that the gunman, identified by the authorities as Adam W. Purinton, 51, yelled “get out of my country” before opening fire, The Kansas City Star reported. A bartender at a Clinton, Mo., restaurant where Mr. Purinton was later captured said he had heard him say that he had killed two Middle Eastern men.

That's what happens when racist rhetoric becomes commonplace. Sikhs have also been targets of violence and racism because dumbs see the turban and think they're Muslims.
 
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article162314233/Daenischer-Politiker-will-Grenze-zu-Deutschland-neu-ziehen.html

Danish politician demands a new border with Germany. But please "without any tank battles".
Now if this ain't news to shake the earth I don't know what is.
 
Wellenbrecher 说:
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article162314233/Daenischer-Politiker-will-Grenze-zu-Deutschland-neu-ziehen.html

Danish politician demands a new border with Germany. But please "without any tank battles".
Now if this ain't news to shake the earth I don't know what is.

Slesvig er Danmark
Holsten er Danmark
Kosovo je Srbija.

Urgrevling 说:
kurczak 说:

Kurczak, that guy shot three people. That's a fair bit different from protesting. And if you think I don't believe black people can be racist I find myself wondering how you came to that conclusion.

Relax :smile: I was incidentally just reading about anti-immigration riots in South Africa and found the coincidence amusing.
 
Wellenbrecher 说:
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article162314233/Daenischer-Politiker-will-Grenze-zu-Deutschland-neu-ziehen.html

Danish politician demands a new border with Germany. But please "without any tank battles".
Now if this ain't news to shake the earth I don't know what is.

Will I get decleared God-Emperor after they get Flensburg? Seems about as likely.
 
Wellenbrecher 说:
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article162314233/Daenischer-Politiker-will-Grenze-zu-Deutschland-neu-ziehen.html

Danish politician demands a new border with Germany. But please "without any tank battles".
Now if this ain't news to shake the earth I don't know what is.
He has since elaborated/corrected it, saying it was a joke.
He was asked in an interview if he wanted the border to be moved to the Ejder (river)
and said "of course". The part about tank battles was a joke.

"I can't possibly imagine the Danish-German border being moved.
But I don't know what will happen in 15 generations."
http://nyheder.tv2.dk/politik/2017-02-23-espersen-i-vaelten-i-tyske-medier-sagde-han-ville-rykke-graensen-til-ejderen
 
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