TaleWorlds News: New News Necessary for the OT Neophytes

[kurczak]

Many writers try to eliminate redundant adverbs such as very https://prowritingaid.com/grammar/1000047/Why-shouldn-t-you-use-the-word-very-in-your-writing
Traditionalists believe "due to” as an adjective can only modify pronouns and nouns and are unhappy with its modern misuse https://writingcooperative.com/writ...ow-if-it-s-grammatically-correct-264223ca27c0
The Guardian style guide considers ongoing a redundant adjective despite common usage https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/the-ongoing-fuss-over-ongoing/

IMO very is very lazy writing, due to is often clumsy and ongoing is fine in moderation.

Got it. Very interesting. I liked it a lot.

Formal language is always going to tend towards repetition and grammatic oddity, its just the nature of having to send a billion letters and emails. Any other organisation would just accept this linguistic drift, but mogg's entire persona is that he's a primordial english aristocrat. Without that he's just a void. There is an idea of a Rees-Mogg. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real him. Only an entity. Something illusory.

"Impressive. Very Nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's staff prohibitions."

You had me at "there is an idea of..."

Yes, I would like to see him answer 100+ emails 5 days a week without resorting to Can you please advise on the above? etc.

 

[Mad Vader]

Indonesia set to make sex outside marriage punishable by jail

Indonesia's parliament expected to pass new criminal code that will also make insulting the president or state institutions a crime.

The legislative overhaul will also ban insulting the president or state institutions and expressing any views counter to Indonesia’s state ideology. Cohabitation before marriage is also banned.
Decades in the making, the new criminal code is expected to be passed on 15 December, Indonesia’s deputy justice minister, Edward Omar Sharif Hiariej, told Reuters. “We’re proud to have a criminal code that’s in line with Indonesian values,” he told Reuters.

How's your sex life, @Grank?
You also only have limited time to criticize your government, so use it to your utmost, while having premarital sex.

Over here, marriage is something that everyone'd assume everyone do eventually. The main concern for girls is health for childbirth. Marrying too young is obviously not good for health, so people avoid that. It's only when people are too desperate that they marry their young kids off. You know to whom those desperate people are "selling" their kids to? The Arab weebs. Normally for girls it's at 22-27 years old. Above that is already considered risky.

The main concern appears to be virginity now.

 

[Adorno]

That is so sad. Indonesia is moving further in a conservative religious direction.
Who knew you could make something worse than what the Dutch did 300 years ago.

Bambang Wuryanto, a lawmaker involved in the draft...

*giggles like a child*

EDIT: It's now law. I noticed advertising contraceptives is also illegal, as well as blasphemy. Religion's a *****.

 

[Mad Vader]

Do we need a Musk thread?
Apparently tweeting too much makes you an extremist idiot somehow, but this has crossed an important line.

A number of journalists who have reported on Twitter and its new chief executive Elon Musk appear to have been suspended or banned from the platform without explanation.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/15/twitter-suspends-accounts-journalists-musk
...presumably they were somehow breaking his "privacy", which is the newest excuse for banning critical people.

 

[NPC99]

...presumably they were somehow breaking his "privacy", which is the newest excuse for banning critical people.

"Last night, car carrying [his son] lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving and climbed onto hood," he tweeted.
He added that any account revealing people's real-time locations will be suspended "as it is a physical safety violation".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63978323
https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-legal-action-elonjet-jack-sweeney-1849897068
@Elonjet or anything tracking his aircraft movements is a risk especially given Starlink’s involvement in Ukraine. However, data Jack Sweeney could access is available to others whether @Elonjet is banned or not. So, the ban protects him from stalkers, but not the FSB.
I’m sympathetic to tracking violating physical security, but recognise Elon’s knee-jerk reaction has been typically scattergun. I wonder what John Lennon would say, if he’d only been wounded?

 

[Adorno]

Everything seems like a big mess at Twitter right now. The CEO playing customer service and moderator with random polls.
The closed accounts all seem to be from people reporting on the 'doxxing'.
I have some sympathy with that, and see it as a form of stalking (even though the data is available to anyone. Maybe some laws are needed in that area...).
But the bans are scattershot, and simply reporting on a story is of course not participation.

 

[NPC99]

simply reporting on a story is of course not participation

Agreed. However, “While the journalists had reported that the suspensions were permanent, in multiple tweets Musk said the suspensions would be for only seven days.” in the Guardian article lacked sufficient prominence vs all the press freedom outrage.

 

[Mad Vader]

Agreed

Double agreed, that's exactly the problem here. The journalists are not threatening his security and he just pissed them off. He will, of course, pay for this with more unfavorable reporting, and this is important because Tesla and other shareholders are watching his public escapades with concern, and will eventually make a move to remove or demote him. Both because he is not actively running Tesla while hourly owning the libs on Twitter and because of liberal customer (large Tesla customer base) backlash.

 

[NPC99]

Double agreed, that's exactly the problem here. The journalists are not threatening his security and he just pissed them off. He will, of course, pay for this with more unfavorable reporting, and this is important because Tesla and other shareholders are watching his public escapades with concern, and will eventually make a move to remove or demote him. Both because he is not actively running Tesla while hourly owning the libs on Twitter and because of liberal customer (large Tesla customer base) backlash.

“While the journalists had reported that the suspensions were permanent, in multiple tweets Musk said the suspensions would be for only seven days.” in the Guardian article lacked sufficient prominence vs all the press freedom outrage.

 

[Mad Vader]

“While the journalists had reported that the suspensions were permanent, in multiple tweets Musk said the suspensions would be for only seven days.” in the Guardian article lacked sufficient prominence vs all the press freedom outrage.

Um, okay, so he first banned them indefinitely for NO GOOD REASON, and then commuted their punishment to 7-day bans, which is much better? This isn't even true, he runs a poll at the moment to determine what happens to the journalist accounts. Why have principles when you can run a poll? Go bots!
Of course, his stated reason for banning the journalists is that they provided LINKS to a site that provides his real-time location, something I can't verify, but should be easily verifiable by you insufficiently employed people. He also names them in his poll as "accounts who doxxed my exact location in real-time", which is not what the journalists did.
I'm happy he digs himself into another hole.

 

[NPC99]

Um, okay, so he first banned them indefinitely for NO GOOD REASON, and then commuted their punishment to 7-day bans, which is much better? This isn't even true, he runs a poll at the moment to determine what happens to the journalist accounts. Why have principles when you can run a poll? Go bots!
Of course, his stated reason for banning the journalists is that they provided LINKS to a site that provides his real-time location, something I can't verify, but should be easily verifiable by you insufficiently employed people. He also names them in his poll as "accounts who doxxed my exact location in real-time", which is not what the journalists did.
I'm happy he digs himself into another hole.

I didn’t say that I approved of him going off half-cocked. Merely suggesting that it’s not all one-sided.

 

[Mad Vader]

I didn’t say that I approved of him going off half-cocked. Merely suggesting that it’s not all one-sided.

It's all one-sided, Fash99. Doxxing a billionaire is not even a thing! It's just culture war theater and trying to play a victim to the evil leftist media or whatever.

 

[NPC99]

It's all one-sided, Fash99. Doxxing a billionaire is not even a thing! It's just culture war theater and trying to play a victim to the evil leftist media or whatever.

However rich they are they're still people. Fame targets them. John Lennon wouldn't have been shot, if he was unknown. Ditto stabbings of David Amess & Jo Cox.

 

[Mad Vader]

However rich they are they're still people. Fame targets them. John Lennon wouldn't have been shot, if he was unknown. Ditto stabbings of David Amess & Jo Cox.

No, Elon is not "just people". He is someone who could get any kind of personal security at any moment, if he wishes to, both for himself and his numerous brood. He is not like you and me.

 

[Adorno]

"Last night, car carrying [his son] lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving and climbed onto hood," he tweeted.

Has anyone confirmed that?

(His child is called lil X? And with a capital X. Who could love someone called that?)

 

[NPC99]

Has anyone confirmed that?

(His child is called lil X? And with a capital X. Who could love someone called that?)

AFAIK he posted pictures of the man and his number plate on twitter, hoping his followers could id him or his car.


Doesn't look very threatening, but who knows? I doubt the nutters who machine gun schools wear placards.

Apparently that number plate doesn't exist:


OOPs I'm wrong again:


BTW his eighth kid was named Exa Dark Sideræl Musk

 

[Adorno]

Okay. There sems to be many layers here. Was there a police report filed?
Is the Elonjet account using publically available data, or a workaround to follow a private jet?
Did all the banned journalists literally show his position data (as Musk claims), or did they simply reported on it?
It's getting convoluted and boring.

 

[eddiemccandless]

That's exactly the point. As far as I know there was no police report filed, and there's no evidence that anyone was actually threatening his family. His tweet should be considered as reliable as his other tweets are. This is an open view on his "free speech absolutism" (that honestly was already evidently fake given how he handles criticism from his employees).

My guess would be that this is a desperate attempt to drive engagement (we're talking about him after all aren't we?).

 

[DanAngleland]

I'm no fan of Elon Musk but dismissing that alleged stalker incident as immaterial just because he has the money to hire security teams is unreasonable and anti-social. We are all human, it's malicious and provocative to advertise the whereabouts of his plane (regardless of the fact that it is publicly available. In fact many peoples' home addresses - normal, not famous people - are available on the internet for a small fee, and that's perferctly legal. Would you be happy for someone to Tweet your address on the internet?), which apparently led to this stalker incident. It's not alright to potentially put them at risk even if they had a thousand bodyguards, anymore than it's ok to only attempt murder as long as you don't succeed.

I'm not dismissing the possibility that his version of events is exaggerated or even fabricated, he is after all someone who has earned a slightly iffy reputation, but it doesn't sound false to me. In fact at least some of the reporters he has an issue with agreed that they had Tweeted links to the Tweet/Tweeter at the heart of the issue, the person who Tweets the location or website which shows the location of his plane, and that can be seen as aiding the harassment in itself (I think harassment is accurate, as making Musk feel harassed and vulnerable is surely what the person is trying to achieve by spreading awareness of the ability to track Musk).

 

[Mad Vader]

"Anything can be interpreted as anything" - Elon Musk to his fanboys
Look guys, this is a clear cut case, he blocked perfectly fine journalists on very spurious grounds, while lying about their involvement.
Also see: UN statement, EU statement, German statement etc. Don't be behind the curve because you fall for his virtual persona playing a victim.