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She bought her election by bribing tory party members with ludicrous and undeliverable promises.

I get the feeling the main reason they voted for her was that she was a white person they had seen before. Rishi Sunak was basically identical in his rhetoric, i.e. retvrn to thatcherism, lower taxes, lower spending except on the military etc etc. but he was never going to get in because he was brown, and the lib dems and labour have sucked up all the non-openly-racist middle classes.

Right now the Conservative party is at an impasse which I think has to result in a split, otherwise this deadlock will last forever. The thatcherite wing of the party is mostly in control at the top, but the voters are a mix of rural racists and social conservatives who either hate the thatcherite project or are indifferent to it. The people who benefitted from Thatcherism are now living comfortable lives in commuter towns and don't vote much.

And in general the UK seems to be in a terrible political state with a complete lack of competent politicians, conservative or otherwise.

Yeah. and it's been like this basically since 2010, just a long list of unqualified clowns with negative IQ making sweeping decisions every year that cost the public section billions. They reshuffle tory cabinet idiots into roles they have absolutely no experience with. Notoriously Michael Gove was education secretary despite never having gone to a real school, let alone done any teaching. It's very funny to look at the cabinet history of these nonces, they're completely random and unrelated.

Labour is no better, its slowly morphing into the conservative party, except with a signature lack of charisma. Kier Starmer is incredibly unpopular, I really can't see him lasting long as PM if labour wins.
 
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Completely unexpected developments!
I hoped for Truss and her flavor of demented militant incompetence, just to see the UK burn, but that looks less likely now. There's still time though!

Going forward, they should simply give Rishi a go now as he is completely vindicated. Oh, he is still brown colored. Never mind then, just get Gove.

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EDIT looks like Sir Graham Brady is still talking about consulting the membership. The only way that can happen by 28th October is by offering a single candidate.
That's optimistic of you. I bet they will get two choices, but properly vetted and selected in one big and quick round of MP voting.

Kier Starmer is incredibly unpopular, I really can't see him lasting long as PM if labour wins.
Back in the reality, outside of Jacob's bubble.
 
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That's optimistic of you. I bet they will get two choices, but properly vetted and selected in one big and quick round of MP voting.
Any candidate needs 100 mps endorsing their nomination. That may guarantee only one. Better than the idiots suggesting they resurrect Boris.
the main reason they voted for her was that she was a white person
Given the number of anti-immigration BREXIT idiots in the Tory party, I'm sure that influenced some voting.
Going forward, they should simply give Rishi a go now as he is completely vindicated. Oh, he is still brown colored. Never mind then, just get Gove.
Gove won't get 100 backers. Rishi certainly can.
 
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Let's call it now, Rishi and Penny will be put on the ballot and the old gits would choose Penny, because she is upbeat, saucy, vacuous and white. She will be told to form a unity cabinet with all the top Tory dogs, whether they are hardliners or moderates, because they now need all hands on deck to have a chance at the next election after the Truss debacle.
What are her policy priorities? Does she even know?
 
Let's call it now, Rishi and Penny will be put on the ballot and the old gits would choose Penny, because she is upbeat, saucy, vacuous and white. She will be told to form a unity cabinet with all the top Tory dogs, whether they are hardliners or moderates, because they now need all hands on deck to have a chance at the next election after the Truss debacle.
What are her policy priorities? Does she even know?
AFAIK Penny's skills are all inter-personal - someone voters warm to - a communicator rather than a heavy weight who is competent at doing anything. Her stint at the MOD was very brief. IIRC apart from that, she hasn't run anything important. Her lack of association with specific policies is probably seen as a uniting feature to a split party whereas I see it as a vacuum. She's a naval reserve officer, not someone with financial/economic credentials.
Rishi on the other-hand is loathed by the Boris loyalists for undermining Boris when he lost touch with reality. He will also have trouble with the right-wing nutters of the ERG group who backed Liz (and probably still believe the Trussonomic fairy tales).
Doesn't this exactly prove my point?
Kier Starmer lacks charisma. That was unfortunate when he was up against Boris who was all charisma, lies, charm and little substance. Kier's buried the voter's fear of mad left-wing corbinites, but will have difficult times ahead. Inflation outpacing wages squeezes peoples real incomes. Accordingly, there will be quite understandable Union unrest. The nation will understand and support our down-trodden nurses, but will soon tire of the disruptive tactics of other Labour groups whose disproportionate industrial muscle holds the country to ransom. Kier will have a difficult time with the public if he is too closely associated with destructive union action but will have problems with his party's Union backers, if he doesn't endorse and support their worst excesses.
 
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2 whole years of 60% of people saying he's doing a bad job, then a sudden spike in the final poll, doesn't really prove that he's being seen as more competent.

I have never personally spoken to anyone who has anything but sneering disdain or total indifference for Starmer. He is probably much more hated than Corbyn, who people just thought was idealistic, ideologically dangerous, or reminded them of the disastrous 1970s. But at the very least Corbyn had a specific project, while it's anyone's guess who Herr Stormer is supposed to appeal to, or what his actual goal is besides "being the adult in the room" while the country collapses around him.
 
Few people love UK politicians :smile:
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Petty Mordant's main advantage is that too few people know enough about her to object to her. Keir's dislike ratings are quite good for a politician 90% of the population know about.
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Few people love UK politicians :smile:
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Damn, didn't know politicians had RPG character sheets :grin:
Least disliked is also a quality, I suppose - but probably reflects the low fame stat.

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Damn, didn't know politicians had RPG character sheets :grin:
Least disliked is also a quality, I suppose - but probably reflects the low fame stat.
You can get them on anyone famous:
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Just reflects what people in the UK think/say.
 
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****, they are going to foist B***s on the UK again, wouldn't they? It's an incredible ****show and the main culprit are Tory party members. The party membership fees are a bargain for the ability to troll the nation with a succession of incompetent hardliners.
 
****, they are going to foist B***s on the UK again, wouldn't they? It's an incredible ****show and the main culprit are Tory party members. The party membership fees are a bargain for the ability to troll the nation with a succession of incompetent hardliners.
Boris is “up for it.” I suspect his intervention will damage Penny’s chances of securing 100 nominations. Rishi already has his 100 and the UK could do with his
Simon French, economist at Panmure Gordon, said the UK would benefit from a “dullness dividend” if the party picked Sunak to replace Truss. Sunak’s allies expect him to keep Jeremy Hunt as his chancellor. He predicted that a team of Sunak and Hunt would close the spread between UK gilts and other sovereign debt held by other G7 countries by 50 basis points, which would equate to a £7bn reduction in the 2026-27 fiscal gap.

My local mp (who I’ve never voted for), Jacob Rees-Mogg, is tweeting #BorisorBust to confirm his disconnect with reality. #Boris&Bust would be more appropriate.
 
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My local mp (who I’ve never voted for), Jacob Rees-Mogg, is tweeting #BorisorBust to confirm his disconnect with reality. #Boris&Bust would be more appropriate.

What's it even like having him as local MP? He's so self-obsessed and dramatic in media appearances that I can't imagine him actually doing anything in real life. Is your area just a hyper-safe seat or does he actually do more outside of that?
 
What's it even like having him as local MP? He's so self-obsessed and dramatic in media appearances that I can't imagine him actually doing anything in real life. Is your area just a hyper-safe seat or does he actually do more outside of that?
14,729 majority - very safe. Despite his lack of judgement, he's diligent when it comes to constituency work (probably sees it as his patrician duty).

BTW Boris may be unintentionally driving up support for Rishi https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...inister-odds-tracker-tory-leadership-contest/

 
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Jacob Rees-Mogg
He acts like his family goes back to the Norman conquest, but apparently all his family's wealth was made by his jou*nalist father and his grandparents were truck drivers and Irish-Americans.
 
He acts like his family goes back to the Norman conquest, but apparently all his family's wealth was made by his jou*nalist father and his grandparents were truck drivers and Irish-Americans.
This is how he projects himself https://www.jacobreesmogg.com/about
It's preferable to pose as established nobility, so, us plebs will pass off his lack of judgement as natural in-breeding. Such a loyal and staunch supporter of the government would have been rewarded with an important cabinet post, if he had any real ability. However, he's been shunted between soft jobs.
 
Is a likely scenario that Sunak is elected and brings in Boris through the back door (i.e. gives him a position)?
 
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