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The CIA told him lies that he then presented in the UN. He didn't know they were lies and even cut some of their less supported evidence.
Since a lot of this was CIA reports he insisted on sitting the CIA boss next to him when he presented the case - so both the observers would know where is this coming from and for the CIA to assume responsibility. This ended badly for all of them, but he was right to be suspicious.
This is all documented and all you have to do is to read the accounts of what went on behind the scenes.
The big picture was that the neocons in the administration pressured the CIA to find any evidence and even interfered with interpreting the CIA's raw unverified intel, and the CIA under Tenet, compromised its verification processes in order not to lose the President's ear. This ended badly for the CIA which was made the scapegoat and downgraded from the chief intel agency to the rank of other agencies overseen by a new office.
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He knew it was lies. I knew it was lies. Everyone knew. The whole thing was complete bogus.
But if you go by what is 'officially documented', then sure, the CIA fabricated it and is responsible.
Freak accident on set.
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But if you go by what is 'officially documented', then sure, the CIA fabricated it and is responsible.
Freak accident on set.
Alec Baldwin “Discharged” Prop Gun That Killed ‘Rust’ Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins & Injured Director On Set; Actor Questioned And Released – Update
UPDATED with more law enforcement information: The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Department confirmed Thursday night that Alec Baldwin “discharged” the prop gun that killed Rust cinematograp…
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Powell knew that some of the stuff in his speech was based on flimsy evidence and threw out even more material that was feebly sourced, despite Cheney's people (who were behind this) opposition (this is all well-sourced by witnesses who were involved in preparing and fact-checking the speech). He was a moderating force in the administration and he didn't want to play fast and loose with facts, as he ultimately did.
He was determined to do his duty to the President because the alternative was to resign, and soldiers don't do that. Once on board with the White House campaign to sell the war, he got (consciously) compromised, not only in his UN speech, but in selling the war to the American people.
If I had to guess how much he really knew, let's say he hoped some of it was true, because no one really knew what was untrue, as the US intel on Iraq was skimpy.
This is far from what types like Cheney and Rumsfeld were doing, who didn't care about lying to Americans and others, but wanted to get public support for their agenda at any cost.
These people look the same from the outside only if you don't care about nuances and/or are anti-American by default and see all their leaders as war criminals anyway.
Shame about Baldwin, it would have been much funnier if he did that in the middle of Fifth Avenue in NYC in a Trump wig.
He was determined to do his duty to the President because the alternative was to resign, and soldiers don't do that. Once on board with the White House campaign to sell the war, he got (consciously) compromised, not only in his UN speech, but in selling the war to the American people.
If I had to guess how much he really knew, let's say he hoped some of it was true, because no one really knew what was untrue, as the US intel on Iraq was skimpy.
This is far from what types like Cheney and Rumsfeld were doing, who didn't care about lying to Americans and others, but wanted to get public support for their agenda at any cost.
These people look the same from the outside only if you don't care about nuances and/or are anti-American by default and see all their leaders as war criminals anyway.
Shame about Baldwin, it would have been much funnier if he did that in the middle of Fifth Avenue in NYC in a Trump wig.
you're describing war crime, yes. cheney and rumsfeld doing worse does not exonerate powell
not that 2003 was the only time he was guilty of war crimes to begin with
you do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to him
not that 2003 was the only time he was guilty of war crimes to begin with
you do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to him
Now, now now. He only joined the 23rd Infantry Division after the bad stuff, honest! And I'm sure he did a swell job investigating that!
"He was a great guy when he wasn't being **** at his job," isn't the high praise you think it is.
This makes it sound like your only real opposition to Cheney and Rumsfield is that they were too cynical, and if only they had been a bit more introspective and careful it would have been far more acceptable for them to have promoted a crusade on the other side of the world based on schizophrenic evidence.
Unrelated, but it always makes me laugh out loud when I see Colin Powell's face. It's astounding that he gets called "FIRST BLACK SECRETARY OF STATE" when he's literally whiter than Rachel Dolezal even without her makeup. I really wish the one-drop-rule worked the other way, so that I with my 25% non-african heritage could go to rap concerts and eat unseasoned beef and all that other fun stuff you guys get to do.
right? and even leaving that aside as well there's still multiple other instances
@Cyborg Eastern European and @Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
The advantage of posting edgy innuendo is that it's easy and non-commital. It's not intended to convey information anyway, it's basically low-effort mockery.
The advantage of posting edgy innuendo is that it's easy and non-commital. It's not intended to convey information anyway, it's basically low-effort mockery.
you will have to forgive me for not champing at the bit to earnestly argue with someone saying colin ****ing powell, repeated war criminal, was a "great character" etc.
He was a Republican who openly disliked Trump post-2016. There aren't too many of those around, I like him just based on that alone. Yeah, maybe he's a war criminal, but everyone in American politics from the latter half of the 20th century onward qualifies as such based on these definitions. No one's going into that cesspool without getting their hands dirty.
Frankly you are so full of hard left prejudice, you wouldn't know if he was a great character even if Žižek told you so while burning a US flag.
Does he even like Žižek? I haven’t read the guy, I only saw that debate he had with Jordan B Peterson where he seemed pretty tame and critical of the left.
Monty is too much of an extremist to compromise the way Žižek did
you do not, in actual fact, know me.
This is an implicit invitation to something, isn't it?
Hmmmm.
As if he doesn't likely feel bad enough for accidentally killing someone and seriously injuring another, now people are going out of their way to find possibly off-colour tweets of his questioning, of all things, the necessity of police brutality.
Far be it for me to sympathize with an ultra-rich celebrity but what's your point in bringing that up?
**** the internet.
Far be it for me to sympathize with an ultra-rich celebrity but what's your point in bringing that up?
**** the internet.
>mfw I accidentally laugh at death in the news
The way the story was told in most news sources is like a comedy. No matter how you try to spin a news item like "alec baldwin accidentally shoots someone on set", people are going to find it amusing. I personally don't find that old tweet that funny, but acting like this is hurting alec baldwin's feelings personally or that this even matters to most people is a bit silly. Of all the horrifying things in the human psyche to have been unleashed by the demon that is the internet, laughing at one person's tragicomic death is fairly low on the scale.
The way the story was told in most news sources is like a comedy. No matter how you try to spin a news item like "alec baldwin accidentally shoots someone on set", people are going to find it amusing. I personally don't find that old tweet that funny, but acting like this is hurting alec baldwin's feelings personally or that this even matters to most people is a bit silly. Of all the horrifying things in the human psyche to have been unleashed by the demon that is the internet, laughing at one person's tragicomic death is fairly low on the scale.
I don't even know why I find this particular incident to be affecting but there's something in particular I find disturbing about the fact that someone died in a senseless accident and minutes later it's already being spun in all sorts of directions, humorous or no, without the slightest consideration for those involved or the deceased, who mind you, died through no fault of their own. I thought I was pretty misanthropic.
Not to mention the implications of people mobilizing this to try and refute Baldwin's points on gun control or police violence is incredibly sad.
Not to mention the implications of people mobilizing this to try and refute Baldwin's points on gun control or police violence is incredibly sad.
