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In totally unrelated news at home last night.
Most recent news: 400 black people having a block party. Some idiots begin doing donuts in the street with their cars around 12:30 AM this morning. One car strikes a person, then another. Ambulance arrives for those people and shooting starts. Apparently rival gangs were on the same turf and over 100 shots were fired. 3 people have died. Black Charlotte policeman expresses frustration, "Over 400 people in the street and not one damn witness." Translation: They know who did the shooting but are afraid to say.
Sad black woman almost broke my heart. With tears in her eyes she said, "Black lives don't seem to matter to other blacks."
 
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It's funny because when I said the modern internet was a cesspit I wasn't thinking of any particular ideology, I was thinking more about people making baseless assumptions and leaping headlong into a vitriol-laced fight over the smallest of provocations. Thank you for an excellent illustration of why I maintain that particular view.
that sounds really horrible :sad:(((((

no one should talk angy about anything at all especially when it's about stuff that actually hurts people, those kinds of things are completely neutral hypotheticals :sad:(((

I hope ur ok bb
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Oh fug. you just ZINGED! me!!


Share and tag all your friends to totally ZING! them! :grin:
- please daddy I want my status quo -
Hoohoohoo wow, nice one my bro. My favorite part is when you took a snippet of my quote and deliberately omitted the one thing this whole debacle is about.

"Allowing people the right to a healthy, happy life and not questioning their very existence? sounds like sum librul bs haha ok sjw enjoy ur self righteousness high"

yeah ok. I think you'll find I can summarize a quote much more effectively :wink: Also, fun fact related to your bs example.

in recent decades we have begun to call our neighbors, loved ones and associates assholes for being racist, especially the ones that refused to listen to more reasonable arguments

and then they...stopped trying to be outwardly racist?? whoa. Could they still be racist in their homes? Probs. But guess what, they're significantly less likely to hurt people out in the open and if we can't change them outright we can at least have that.

it's almost like when enough people make it very clear that something is unacceptable those with tiny egos try to not do that unacceptable thing around them! wow!
Someone here needs an attitude adjustment. Seriously.
will you adjust me, daddy? ;3
I'm actually left wing (member of a socialist party) and support policies that protect the rights of transgender/-sexual people.
Oh good for you! You support political policy! Well shoot I guess that does give you leeway to degrade trans people in your personal life! Because only a real trans ally would say things like "they're turning gender into a fata morgana" or "this patient says she's a woman but 'she' has...snicker...BALL GERMS! hehehe diseases don't care about ur gender identity just like facts don't care about your feelings! haha they're so delusional".

Then you backpedal all of that **** and pretend you're not being a literal ******* right now. If you actually support trans people, not just trans rights but trans people, you're doing a piss-poor job of actually coming across as that and not as literally every single pseudointellectual bigot on the Internet trying to cover their tracks.


It's been Attenborough-levels of captivating watching you all huff each other's farts. Why keep that to yourself, though? There's big money in that.
 
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Cyborg Eastern European

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Damn. Now, it's not as articulate, hard-hitting or well-paced as the ones Jhess used to cook up, but the overall energy is good enough!

So I take it back, I guess we do still have the traffic for it!
 

Vermillion_Hawk

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I hope ur ok bb

Oh yes, just very amused. I could go on about how I wasn't implying that people shouldn't get angry about things they are passionate about, but rather that you've completely misread this situation and are currently digging yourself a hole but I'm now more interested in seeing where you're going with this.
 

Abraxium

@Abraxium Soooo, are we to gather that you've read all that wall of text? That's...commendable.
I have special eyes


Hoohoohoo wow, nice one my bro. My favorite part is when you took a snippet of my quote and deliberately omitted the one thing this whole debacle is about.

"Allowing people the right to a healthy, happy life and not questioning their very existence? sounds like sum librul bs haha ok sjw enjoy ur self righteousness high"

yeah ok. I think you'll find I can summarize a quote much more effectively :wink: Also, fun fact related to your bs example.

in recent decades we have begun to call our neighbors, loved ones and associates assholes for being racist, especially the ones that refused to listen to more reasonable arguments

and then they...stopped trying to be outwardly racist?? whoa. Could they still be racist in their homes? Probs. But guess what, they're significantly less likely to hurt people out in the open and if we can't change them outright we can at least have that.

it's almost like when enough people make it very clear that something is unacceptable those with tiny egos try to not do that unacceptable thing around them! wow!
Might pop a xan blood vessel and forget about her
I thought you were incoherent before, but now it's reaching astronomical levels, you meet the requirements for working as an astronaut? I literally don't know what to make of your post, I have seen spaghetti in more order than your words
 

Яowan

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I think @Adorno's comments do come off as intolerant, or at least lacking in empathy, to trans-rights. And the "I'm actually left wing (member of a socialist party) and support policies that protect the rights of transgender/-sexual people" statement does seem to bear similarities to the "-but I've got a black friend/partner/family member!" statements made by some to downplay the severity of racist remarks.

If you do indeed support trans-rights, start by listening to people - even if they are, or you think they are, being hyperbolic - and ask questions on how to better communicate to avoid this situation in the future.
 
Ask questions that aren't backhanded insults*
You mean like you do sometimes? I'd love to see evidence of whatever it was that you accused me of. It may have been a legitimate question with no connotations whatsoever that you blew up into something from your imagination.
 

Vermillion_Hawk

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I'll also point out that Adorno has a fairly poor understanding of the intricacies of the English language, so I don't think his questions are necessarily malicious.
 

Яowan

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He did, multiple times.

Framing is the issue. Yes, questions were asked, but it did not come across (as a bystander) as if they were listening to the other side - perhaps it is a language barrier, that much is unclear - but the questions struck me as if they were making statements, or framing statements in a fashion that wouldn't be far removed from a case of "how do I say x, but actually it's y".

It appeared to be less about understanding what the other parties feel the appropriate approach is, and understanding what sort of adjustments to their communication and approach could best be made, but instead more about defending the use of mis-gendering.

This may not have been the intention at all, but I think the approach in regards to communication needs some tweaking
 

Evelyn

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Duke
WF&SWBNWVC
You mean like you do sometimes? I'd love to see evidence of whatever it was that you accused me of. It may have been a legitimate question with no connotations whatsoever that you blew up into something from your imagination.

Please read what I wrote more carefully. The questions part refers specifically to Adorno, not you. As for you, it's not what you did, but what you didn't do. Ignoring years worth of harassment and reports and overlooking blatant transphobia and usage of slurs is a great way to lose any and all credibility as a moderator in my eyes, and that is what I mentioned. Like it or not, your turning a blind eye to the situation is part of what allowed this to entrench itself so heavily in our community. You are complicit.
 

Adorno

Bedroom Assassin
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Looking back I see that I mixed up gender and and sex a few times (Kobrag's comment helped).
We don't have a similar distinction in Danish, I think. The word "køn" (etymologically like the english 'kin') applies to both.
Instead we say biological køn (sex) and perceived/social køn (gender).
 

kurczak

Section Moderator
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Framing is the issue. Yes, questions were asked, but it did not come across (as a bystander) as if they were listening to the other side - perhaps it is a language barrier, that much is unclear - but the questions struck me as if they were making statements, or framing statements in a fashion that wouldn't be far removed from a case of "how do I say x, but actually it's y".

It appeared to be less about understanding what the other parties feel the appropriate approach is, and understanding what sort of adjustments to their communication and approach could best be made, but instead more about defending the use of mis-gendering.

This may not have been the intention at all, but I think the approach in regards to communication needs some tweaking
Yes, they could come across as trolling. They could also be interpreted as genuine and after more than a decade of internet-knowing him, I'm 99.999% sure it's the latter.
 
Please read what I wrote more carefully. The questions part refers specifically to Adorno, not you. As for you, it's not what you did, but what you didn't do. Ignoring years worth of harassment and reports and overlooking blatant transphobia and usage of slurs is a great way to lose any and all credibility as a moderator in my eyes, and that is what I mentioned. Like it or not, your turning a blind eye to the situation is part of what allowed this to entrench itself so heavily in our community. You are complicit.
I'm sure you have evidence that you can present to back up your claims. I await evidence of my complicity in something.
 

Evelyn

Goblet
Duke
WF&SWBNWVC
Silence is violence, your complicity lies in your inaction. What, exactly, do you wish for me to furnish as proof? Because I sure as hell am not about to waste my time cataloguing every single instance of transphobia that you happened to just overlook during your tenure.
 
Silence is violence, your complicity lies in your inaction. What, exactly, do you wish for me to furnish as proof? Because I sure as hell am not about to waste my time cataloguing every single instance of transphobia that you happened to just overlook during your tenure.
So,in other words, your imagination ran wild and you cannot provide anything I asked for. How do you prove my inaction? We had several other moderators during the past years of my supposed inaction, Lamb, Caba`drin, Moss, Goker, Llandy, Alene, Mad Dawg. Can you separate my supposed inaction from anyone else's inaction?
What I would prefer is if you said, "Maybe I was mistaken," and then keep your mouth shut in the future.
 
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Dozens of Republican former U.S. national security officials are forming a group that will back Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, people familiar with the effort said, in a further sign that President Donald Trump has alienated some members of his own party.

The group will publicly endorse Biden in the coming weeks and its members plan to campaign for the former vice president who is challenging Trump in the Nov. 3 election, the sources said. It includes at least two dozen officials who served under Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, with dozens more in talks to join, the sources added.
 

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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their inaction renders them also complicit, brutus. 🤷 it's just historically not been a thing that was taken particularly seriously on this forum.
 
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