TALEWORLDS - ENOUGH TO SIMPLIFY STATE NAMES AND LORD TITLES. THIS IS NONSENSE! (VOTE)

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

Yes, I got that but don't think Gerrodot picked up on it.

I don't know about though anyway other then that lets get back to dicussion did you like more when the nobles had their title as part of their name or this one i personally prefer just the name since some dialogue texts looked really weird when stated since that was actually their name like it wasnt their title it was their actual name which i find pretty funny if they do it here hope they actually make it that a title

 

[redmark]

I don't know about though anyway other then that lets get back to dicussion did you like more when the nobles had their title as part of their name or this one i personally prefer just the name since some dialogue texts looked really weird when stated since that was actually their name like it wasnt their title it was their actual name which i find pretty funny if they do it here hope they actually make it that a title

I don't really mind either way on stuff like that. It can add some flavour, but as you say can look odd at times in how a title/name is presented in certain text. Could probably be added with their name above the dialogue panel in those encounters. Can also look a little out of place when a lord changes faction.

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

I don't really mind either way on stuff like that. It can add some flavour, but as you say can look odd at times in how a title/name is presented in certain text. Could probably be added with their name above the dialogue panel in those encounters. Can also look a little out of place when a lord changes faction.

It used to change the name with the faction they joined the odd things were like some quest would be like The The Lord name Or deliver to Lord Lord of city

 

[Gerrodot]

We are looking into titles in dialogues at the moment.

Well, titles of Lord are needed,

What about the names of States that I mentioned above? The Principality of Sturgia, the Kingdom Vlandia, Confederation of tribes Battania sound much more interesting than just Sturge Velandia and so on

it is also good for the difference of fractions, authenticity and their differences


version

Countries:

Calradian Empire (South, North, West)
Principality of Sturgia
Kingdom of Vlandia
Confederation of Tribes of Battania
Aserai Sultanate (or Emirate)
Khuzait Horde (or Kaganate)

Lords:

in Sturgia - Boyarin (leader Grand Duke (Knyaz)
in Vlandia - Count or baron (leader - King)
In Battania - War Chief (leader - Supreme Chief)
In the Empire - Archont (leader - Empress, Senator, Warlord)
in Aserai - Emir (leader - The Sultan, Caliph)
to Khuzait - Noyon, (leader - Khan or analogy of the king among the Huns)

 

[Gerrodot]

Yes, I got that but don't think Gerrodot picked up on it.

Dont worry, I know that some of the titles exist unofficially, this is not at all about this, there is so little text in the game and people say this is strange - the game should be more intense, the more it affects both perception and lore, and we received confirmation from the developers.

And the presence of some text bugs, well, firstly, I don’t think that they are irreparable (the developers didn’t really work with the text - they still rule localizations, but many languages do not exist) and secondly, for the sake of enriching the text, lore, and so on, you can tolerate this,?
I prefer to play text-rich games, and so people complain that it is absolutely bland in the game.☺

 

[roadworker]

Ok im not trying to be disrespectful but are you colorblind or have some sort of it since they all have pretty different colours

i dont mean all the factions. returning to the game to start over over mixes up the empire colors for me. i can remember all the other factions just fine but i really dont give much care for each individual empire faction, so i only memorized their leaders name. well only lucon and rhagaea. i dont remember who the west guy is. i just dont make a mental note of what kind of purple their faction is

 

[Askorti]

I do agree that it would be much better if all the factions and vassals had their proper names and titles. I strongly dislike the simplification. It makes the factions and characters feel more commonoplace.
Who cares about some "Raganvald"? Who is this dirty bloke? Ah, the "Grand Prince Raganvald of the Great Principality of Sturgia"? Nah, just the "Leader of Sturgia"...
Boring, bland, pedestrian.

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

i dont mean all the factions. returning to the game to start over over mixes up the empire colors for me. i can remember all the other factions just fine but i really dont give much care for each individual empire faction, so i only memorized their leaders name. well only lucon and rhagaea. i dont remember who the west guy is. i just dont make a mental note of what kind of purple their faction is

Ah makes sense

 

[Bigamo]

We are looking into titles in dialogues at the moment.

 

[HalfMetalJacket]

Well, titles of Lord are needed,

What about the names of States that I mentioned above? The Principality of Sturgia, the Kingdom Vlandia, Confederation of tribes Battania sound much more interesting than just Sturge Velandia and so on

it is also good for the difference of fractions, authenticity and their differences


version

Countries:

Calradian Empire (South, North, West)
Principality of Sturgia
Kingdom of Vlandia
Confederation of Tribes of Battania
Aserai Sultanate (or Emirate)
Khuzait Horde (or Kaganate)

Lords:

in Sturgia - Boyarin (leader Grand Duke (Knyaz)
in Vlandia - Count or baron (leader - King)
In Battania - War Chief (leader - Supreme Chief)
In the Empire - Archont (leader - Empress, Senator, Warlord)
in Aserai - Emir (leader - The Sultan, Caliph)
to Khuzait - Noyon, (leader - Khan or analogy of the king among the Huns)

Some of those sound a bit off or are a mouthful, but I like the intent.

Confederation of Tribes of Battania in particular. Maybe Confederated Tribes instead? Or something like that.

Their lords should probably just be called Chief, while the leader should be 'High King' since term is mentioned all the time in lore.

 

[dannazgu]

We are looking into titles in dialogues at the moment.

Sorry to disturb you... but, may i ask the titles in the Empire will be? I mean Warlord and Senator is kinda silly, since all they claim is title of Emperor, right? And if some way me managed to gain control of existing factions would we be able to change or will received the previous title of the owner?

I mean

Warlord Garios of Western Empire isn't reassuring, Emperor Garios would be more likely, since he claims the mantle ( and be honest Warlord is too babraric for the Empire)
Senator Lucon of Northern Empire the same as above, since he also claims to be Emperor as well

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

Sorry to disturb you... but, may i ask the titles in the Empire will be? I mean Warlord and Senator is kinda silly, since all they claim is title of Emperor, right? And if some way me managed to gain control of existing factions would we be able to change or will received the previous title of the owner?

I mean

Warlord Garios of Western Empire isn't reassuring, Emperor Garios would be more likely, since he claims the mantle ( and be honest Warlord is too babraric for the Empire)
Senator Lucon of Northern Empire the same as above, since he also claims to be Emperor as well

Well currently a noble of the empire is referred to as an "archon" and the empror of course empror

 

[dannazgu]

Well currently a noble of the empire is referred to as an "archon" and the empror of course empror

Yes, it would be mistake as well..

Archon in greek means King/Leader
The nobles should be called Strategos or Senators (it's much more suitable for the Empire, since they claim based on Byzantines)
Emperors too leaders of the Empire of course

I believe other cultures has it's own titles right

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

Yes, it would be mistake as well..

Archon in greek means King/Leader
The nobles should be called Strategos or Senators (it's much more suitable for the Empire, since they claim based on Byzantines)
Emperors too leaders of the Emperire of course

I believe other cultures has it's own titles right

They do actually they just arent part of their names rn in game these are the titles.

Vlandia-Baron/Baroness

Empire-Archon/Doesn't change between gender

Battania/Chief/i was wrong above battania is actually just chief and does not change between genders

Khuzait/Beg

Aserai/Emir

Sturgia/Chieftain
These are noble titles

Vlandia/King

Battania/High King

Empire/Empror

Khuzait/Khan

Aserai/Sultan

Sturgia/Prince
These are leader titles in the game currently

The Princedom Of Sturgia

The Sultanate Of The Aserai

The Calradian Empire

The Forest Bois Of Battania

The Kingdom Of Vlandia

The Khuzait Khanate
These are the current full names of the kingdoms execpt for battania which is either most likely The Confederation Of Battania or The High Kingdom Of Battania

 

[dannazgu]

They do actually they just arent part of their names rn in game these are the titles.

Vlandia-Baron/Baroness

Empire-Archon/Doesn't change between gender

Battania/Chief/i was wrong above battania is actually just chief and does not change between genders

Khuzait/Beg

Aserai/Emir

Sturgia/Chieftain
These are noble titles

Vlandia/King

Battania/High King

Empire/Empror

Khuzait/Khan

Aserai/Sultan

Sturgia/Prince
These are leader titles in the game currently

The Princedom Of Sturgia

The Sultanate Of The Aserai

The Calradian Empire

The Forest Bois Of Battania

The Kingdom Of Vlandia

The Khuzait Khanate
These are the current full names of the kingdoms execpt for battania which is either most likely The Confederation Of Battania or The High Kingdom Of Battania

on files? I don't look files much... To be honest I don't care much if the title appear or not in the names, I just find silly, except for the King or Emperor and even if they put the royal numbers:

King Derhert I dey Maroc of Vlandia
King Derhert II dey Maroc of Vlandia
Emperor Arenicos I
Emperor Arenicos II

And so on

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

on files? I don't look files much... To be honest I don't care much if the title appear or not in the names, I just find silly, except for the King or Emperor and even if they put the royal numbers:

King Derhert I dey Maroc of Vlandia
King Derhert II dey Maroc of Vlandia
Emperor Arenicos I
Emperor Arenicos II

And so on

Nah you just visit towns if you visit a town ruled by raganvad it says this town is governed by raganvad prince of the strugians its the same for other faction leaders with their titles and vassals for their title they do exist and you can still play around with them the player faction title is decided by you're culture if you are aserai you're nobles will be called emirs and you a sultan

 

[dannazgu]

Nah you just visit towns if you visit a town ruled by raganvad it says this town is governed by raganvad prince of the strugians its the same for other faction leaders with their titles and vassals for their title they do exist and you can still play around with them the player faction title is decided by you're culture if you are aserai you're nobles will be called emirs and you a sultan

I see... Well, this should be a very low priority to be put on the game right now, in my point of view.. There's better things and grander things to work on...
But,like I said...unless the game could follow the royal numerics, I don't care much about it..I hoped this never would be implemented

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

I see... Well, this should be a very low priority to be put on the game right now, in my point of view.. There's better things and grander things to work on...
But,like I said...unless the game could follow the royal numerics, I don't care much about it..I hoped this never would be implemented

I mean like it probably will but there aren't any current starting heir swith the same name as their father so mabye when thats fleshed out a bit more again i just wanted to explain that titles already exist but they just arent pushed down you're throat again these already exist so thats all i wanted to explain as i saw you were interested

 

[dannazgu]

I mean like it probably will but there aren't any current starting heir swith the same name as their father so mabye when thats fleshed out a bit more again i just wanted to explain that titles already exist but they just arent pushed down you're throat again these already exist so thats all i wanted to explain as i saw you were interested

Thanks, I appriciate...I see many threads same as this, I never payed attetion to the title i game..Their clan name is what i used to remeber who's who.
And if they make it good, then maybe will get my interest, we'll see...
I just wanted correct the worng usage for Garios and Lucon on the empire, ppl keep calling him warlord and senator respectively.. Since they claim the Purple (mantle of the Emperor) after Arenicos

 

[HugoTheFrenchMan]

Thanks, I appriciate...I see many threads same as this, I never payed attetion to the title i game..Their clan name is what i used to remeber who's who.
And if they make it good, then maybe will get my interest, we'll see...
I just wanted correct the worng usage for Garios and Lucon on the empire, ppl keep calling him warlord and senator respectively.. Since they claim the Purple (mantle of the Emperor) after Arenicos

Honestly there really isnt a way to make it more then a title if they found a way it would be cool but i think this conversation is over. So see ya!