swadian and rhodok armour with the latest patch

[Bailian]

quick question,

why is it that swdian footmen get tunic over mail at rank 'footman' which is quite low rank, but then rhodoks only get it at rank 'veteren spearman' which is like, one from the highest rank in its troop tree?

is there a difference between the green and red tunics over mail? i fail to understand how its fair on rhodoks if swadia get it so early on in the troop tree

 

[Remedius]

Simple - Swadian footmen are **** and have been for too long - the devs have balanced up an unbalanced area of the game. It's debateable if the docks are underpowered by this adjustment - I don't think personally they needed any nerfing as the docks tend to be a specialised faction anyway and any reduction in strength just makes them less effective. It is fair to say they didn't need an upgrade but a downgrade does seem extreme.

 

[Bailian]

Simple - Swadian footmen are **** and have been for too long - the devs have balanced up an unbalanced area of the game. It's debateable if the docks are underpowered by this adjustment - I don't think personally they needed any nerfing as the docks tend to be a specialised faction anyway and any reduction in strength just makes them less effective. It is fair to say they didn't need an upgrade but a downgrade does seem extreme.

too right the swadians have been balanced, I defended a castle with 230 footmen against a veiger army of 400

 

[LBaeldeth]

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Well, it's hilarious until you have to attack, anyway. So many arrows ... 

 

[saint29]

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Well, it's hilarious until you have to attack, anyway. So many arrows ... 

So many arrows and so few ladders/towers. 

 

[YENKO]

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Well, it's hilarious until you have to attack, anyway. So many arrows ... 

Working as intended: 'Let the stone do the job of men'.Medieval castle-builder motto 
Too bad the Ai sucks at defending castles compared to the player's sieging skills.With a bit of practice, I am now able to easily switch between sword+board and Bow, and can block the Ai bolt, and, while he is reloading I switch and headshot him. Works every time. 

 

[Bailian]

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Well, it's hilarious until you have to attack, anyway. So many arrows ... 

In all fairness, the defenders are supposed to be favoured in terms of defence because they're stationed in a castle, castles are always sieged with more men then are garrisoned in the castle.

But i see your point, it is a bit too favoured, good when you're defending with a struggling army, Bad when you have to train about 500 huscarls to take a castle from a caravan guard.

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Right, but if a recruit gets a lucky headshot at you with a stone, you are ****ed. When autoresolving, you need 500 Huscarls/sergeants/whatever to successfully defend against one peasant woman. Auto-resolving should absolutely be tweaked.

It's ironic you said that, not 2 days ago I was knocked unconscious by a swadian recruit and his throwing arm.

It was however on the battlefield, not in a siege, still annoying though.

 

[LBaeldeth]

Oh, I know it's realistic, intended, etc. for sieges to be so imbalanced in favour of the defender.  It's still really funny to see several hundred enemies patiently march single-file up a lone ladder to get butchered one after the next.

 

[phantom67]

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Well, it's hilarious until you have to attack, anyway. So many arrows ... 

So many arrows and so few ladders/towers. 

Friggen' aye! Sieges need a bit of an overhaul, I was hoping they'd get revamped with Warband, but yer.

Lets hope someone mods it huh? It'd be sweet if there was a way to implement siege weapons like trebuchets and ballistae.

 

[CriticallyAshamed]

In my opinion auto-resolve probably makes attacking sieges easier. Just have more HP than the defenders and hope for a few lucky rolls. If you do it manually you're pretty much guaranteed 15-30 minutes of rage-inducing crossbow headshots and clustertrucking at the top of the ladder.

 

[Flak]

Hmm, I regularly take castles with my roaming party of 40 or less.  And every castle I've taken so far has had a minimum of 250 soldiers stationed in it.

 

[Bailian]

I fended off 1200 Sarranids from Uhhun Castle with 250-ish Vaegirs.  Sieges are hilariously imbalanced in favour of the defender.

Well, it's hilarious until you have to attack, anyway. So many arrows ... 

So many arrows and so few ladders/towers. 

Friggen' aye! Sieges need a bit of an overhaul, I was hoping they'd get revamped with Warband, but yer.

Lets hope someone mods it huh? It'd be sweet if there was a way to implement siege weapons like trebuchets and ballistae.

There is a mod which adds an additional ladder to sieges, but that's not exactly much more satisfying than 1 ladder i guess.

P.s battering rams would be a yes.

Hmm, I regularly take castles with my roaming party of 40 or less.  And every castle I've taken so far has had a minimum of 250 soldiers stationed in it.

Is it a party of 40 Chuck Norris' ?

 

[Jock]

Hmm, I regularly take castles with my roaming party of 40 or less.  And every castle I've taken so far has had a minimum of 250 soldiers stationed in it.

Is it a party of 40 Chuck Norris' ?

I guess he has the A-Team, The Unit, Chuck Norris, Jackie Chan, 007, Tomb Rider, and a bunch of peasants for cannonfodder...

 

[Bailian]

Hmm, I regularly take castles with my roaming party of 40 or less.  And every castle I've taken so far has had a minimum of 250 soldiers stationed in it.

Is it a party of 40 Chuck Norris' ?

I guess he has the A-Team, The Unit, Chuck Norris, Jackie Chan, 007, Tomb Rider, and a bunch of peasants for cannonfodder...

should be its own faction altogether

 

[phantom67]

Hmm, I regularly take castles with my roaming party of 40 or less.  And every castle I've taken so far has had a minimum of 250 soldiers stationed in it.

Screenshot of troops and difficulty please.