Surrendering

[Demonic Spoon]

Out of curiosity...if there's a battle you know you can't win, is there any point in surrendering? Is the outcome any different than if you were to, say, ride out and die horribly?

 

[The Mercenary]

Out of curiosity...if there's a battle you know you can't win, is there any point in surrendering? Is the outcome any different than if you were to, say, ride out and die horribly?

You get a few kills, you weaken them, you get hurt. If you surrender, you don't do any of that, and you lose your army and your equipment the same way.

 

[InstantBlade]

Surrendering is a stupid thingy in game. Useless like hell. But hey, If you want to roleplay this really cool character that just surrenders everytime he sees the enemy... whatever, it's just plain old stupid.

 

[gavin]

I'm not sure but I guess your companions won't leave you after surrendering. Could be dead wrong, though.

 

[Untitled.]

In earlier versions they did, don't know about 1.003 as I don't play it.

 

[OL 512]

your companions flee like you , you find them looking in the taverns , with the same equipment you gave them...

I only surrender if im with hurry or lazy...

 

[tommylaw]

you should be able to negiotiate terms of surrender if you do choose to lay down your arms

 

[Shik]

Surrendering sucks since it's always unconditional, and has no benefits.

Even the permanent wound system still affects you, even if you surrender and don't fight.

 

[jwac4ever]

Well all of your troops are left alive, if it a later time you want to come and rescue them

 

[The Mercenary]

Well all of your troops are left alive, if it a later time you want to come and rescue them

Listen mate, if I surrender to a force, I'm not going to be able to defeat it. Since I normally stroll around with 150 hardened mercenaries and 100 kingdom troops. So, it's a good assumption that I can't free those troops. Best thing to do is sacrifice all their lives in hopes of weakening the enemy enough that a couple Lords and I can deal with it once I'm free and have my army retrained and resupplied.

 

[Headshot!]

you should be able to negiotiate terms of surrender if you do choose to lay down your arms

I always thought there should be something like this.  There is the option for asking for a lord being besieged in a castle to Surrender, i'd never bothered clicking it before, but I did when they had about 20-30 men left, and lo and behold, HE SURRENDERED.  haha.  the lord mumbled something about letting him and his men go free unharmed, but pah, the local slave trader in Uxkhal was a more fitting prospect, especially for my pocket.

 

[MountainBlade]

I like the idea. What would you negotiate for though? They already let all your men live. It's unlikely that they would leave you any warriors since they'd eventually have to fight them again. And selling your men for your own freedom is a good way to never get anyone to follow you again.

 

[NikkTheTrick]

Well all of your troops are left alive, if it a later time you want to come and rescue them

Listen mate, if I surrender to a force, I'm not going to be able to defeat it. Since I normally stroll around with 150 hardened mercenaries and 100 kingdom troops. So, it's a good assumption that I can't free those troops. Best thing to do is sacrifice all their lives in hopes of weakening the enemy enough that a couple Lords and I can deal with it once I'm free and have my army retrained and resupplied.

Not really. If your force is hopelessly outmatched, chances are you are up against a large number of enemy armies.

Individually, they are much weaker, so you stand a very good chance of later defeating them 1 by 1 (they will disperse once their campaign is over) and getting all those troops back.

 

[Headshot!]

I like the idea. What would you negotiate for though? They already let all your men live. It's unlikely that they would leave you any warriors since they'd eventually have to fight them again. And selling your men for your own freedom is a good way to never get anyone to follow you again.

A very large amount of money, or items maybe?  How about having some (honourable) lords set you free, like the option we as a player have.

Perhaps they could force you to disband your men, and allow you to go free .. this would in their eyes render you helpless, and no longer a threat.

 

[Folcan]

They are bandits and raiders, why would they accept that?
they preffer having prisioners (whatever that they use them for)

 

[tommylaw]

its also ridicolous that 8 looters would not surrender to 40 armed, armoured and mounted men

 

[Krik]

no it's not everyone knows the looters escaped from the mental hospital they think they're invincible...it's just so sad

 

[Longblade]

..Even the permanent wound system still affects you, even if you surrender and don't fight.

What permanent wound system?

 

[Durandal]

its also ridicolous that 8 looters would not surrender to 40 armed, armoured and mounted men

I don't mind. More experience for me =P. Plus, it's fun to wipe them off the map in whatever way you can dream up.

 

[Lord Bryggan]

I wish you could ask the enemy to surrender each time a new battle starts.  I can't handle too big of a battlesizer, so coming up against armies of 1200 or so gets very tedious.  Pretty thrilling at first, but chasing down those pesky last 3 or 4 Khergit skirmishers is very irritating- especially when you've done it ten times before.

After getting 3/4s of your army killed, most people would run or surrender, especially the undisciplined lower tier troops.  I've always been baffled by that lone khergit skirmisher who can run circles around my knights keeps coming back.  If I had a fast horse and all my buddies had been slaughtered, I think I would suddenly remember I had left the oven on at home and get out of there as quick as I can.

Also there is nothing more pathetic than seeing 12 rhodock spearmen bravely advancing on your 57 knights.  "Okay guys, they killed 900 of our best, but I think if we really pull together..."  It takes more time to ride there than it does to kill them.