Surrender or die! (?)

[SUNLIGHTBEARD]

This is directed more at the devs if they care to read it so i'll make this as condensed as possible.

I want "surrender or die!" To mean something. I get that NPC lords dont have to play by the slow, tedious  grindy recruitment process we do. I think its flawed but whatever. What bothers me is that when i kick Harlaus' ass with 3 vassals and 400 men in tow i want it to mean something and earn me more than 43 renown and some ****e gear.

I want real, lasting results like real warfare. I want to execute or exile or whatever these ignorant ****-stirring lords so i can move on to bigger and better things. I barely have my party healed up and a fresh batch of recruits leveled past tier 1 before those bastards come back for my hard-earned fiefs, stronger than ever while i'm scrambling to fill ranks.

I'm not trying to criticise. I love M&B. I get glitches happen (some months ago i posted about being 1 faction away from golden throne and empress achievments but 3 lords wouldnt defect or leave so even though i had the entire map i could not win)

I just think the lack of actions available to you regarding the harassment of enemy lords is a major oversight and hope someone takes this into consideration. Thanks.

 

[carlos1879]

Similar it is far too easy for enemy lords to escape. If your army gets beaten you are taken prisoner yet enemy lords seem to get a very high chance of escaping. Fair enough if they retreat but you can knock one out right in your front line's drive his army off with your army holding position around the unconscious lord and he apparently sleepwalks to freedom 9/10.

 

[SUNLIGHTBEARD]

Yes i agree completely. It makes no sense. Though i wouldnt care about that so much if once i finally caught one i could dispose of him and end his bothersome existence.

 

[carlos1879]

Yup especially when its like the situation you described when they are the last member of a faction and have no fiefs but refuse to join someone else or just leave. Wiped out Swadia in an early game and everyone but Count Haringoth either joined another faction or left but he persisted and I kept getting messages "enemy patrols spotted near Uxkhal even though I wasn't at war. Eventually hunted the patrol down and it was count Haringoth on his own. 100+ vs one. Knocked him out he escaped (only logical explanation is he got knocked out and my troops argued so long as to who had to carry him that he woke up and wandered off) eventually took him captive took him prisoner but there is no one to ransom him so he has been sat in a prison tower for months. I assume he will eventually escape and take up his one man siege again.

 

[SUNLIGHTBEARD]

Exactly man. I was 3 khergit vassals away from the goldtier achievements of empress AND golden throne when i just gave up due to this nonsense. I sure wish Taleworlds would address this... or at least acknowledge it.

 

[Cpt. Nemo]

You'll be happy to know that the developers have said the ai will follow the same rules as the player in Bannerlord, and things like surrendering to an overwhelming force will be possible, in addition to heavy losses meaning something to the ai. Unfortunately, I doubt they will be making such changes to Warband.

 

[lolxd]

You should get the PC version, to be honest. You're missing out of good mods out there.

 

[SUNLIGHTBEARD]

Le sigh

 

[carlos1879]

You'll be happy to know that the developers have said the ai will follow the same rules as the player in Bannerlord, and things like surrendering to an overwhelming force will be possible, in addition to heavy losses meaning something to the ai. Unfortunately, I doubt they will be making such changes to Warband.

Great only have to wait till it releases on PC then wait a few more years for it to come to consoles. Can hardly wait