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Funny enough, the ones you just posted/quoted. :razz:

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EDIT: I'm a bit confused here about your post involving these helmets. Were you linkim them as examples or as something that should NOT be in this mod? :???:

 
I think so too, but it also has a piece of mail on it for the back of the head.

I think a simpler version of such a helmet should be more common. Would make vikings spot on.
 

Æthelwulf

Master Knight
M&BWBWF&SNW
My point was you didn't have to be so blunt to Ulfr and could of reposted your previous links. Not everybody is as clued up as others and it's far better to have a teachers attitude and want to inform people instead of beating them down about it. People tend to see this as a game first and fore most over being 100% historically accurate and well a friendlier attitude goes a long way. If you had just stated and re-posted your old thread, which to be fare is quite a while ago, remarking on how aspects of his posted Gjermundbu helmet aren't correct then we wouldn't of had a problem and you would of taught somebody something new and made a friend in me.

But you did that anyway by enlightening me to this trove of pictures.

Damn that's quite some scanning you did there. I actually took the Swords of the Viking Age book out from my library last year and it's pure pornography and should be banned. Always been partial to the Abingdon sword myself, oh how I want it. Do you have a particular favourite?

Though I do get sad when ever I look through books like this and see all the various, blades, pommels etc, for I always dream of the day when a game lets me make my own sword by sticking various types together.
 

Helge

Sergeant at Arms
YourStepDad said:
I think so too, but it also has a piece of mail on it for the back of the head.

I think a simpler version of such a helmet should be more common. Would make vikings spot on.

Yes. But the problem is: Helmets without mail (or something) on it for the back of the head looks terrible.

If this problem could be fixed it would be really nice. Long hair + this Helmet (without mail on the back) = Epic look.
 

Helge

Sergeant at Arms
Æthelwulf said:
My point was you didn't have to be so blunt to Ulfr and could of reposted your previous links. Not everybody is as clued up as others and it's far better to have a teachers attitude and want to inform people instead of beating them down about it. People tend to see this as a game first and fore most over being 100% historically accurate and well a friendlier attitude goes a long way. If you had just stated and re-posted your old thread, which to be fare is quite a while ago, remarking on how aspects of his posted Gjermundbu helmet aren't correct then we wouldn't of had a problem and you would of taught somebody something new and made a friend in me.

But you did that anyway by enlightening me to this trove of pictures.

Damn that's quite some scanning you did there. I actually took the Swords of the Viking Age book out from my library last year and it's pure pornography and should be banned. Always been partial to the Abingdon sword myself, oh how I want it. Do you have a particular favourite?

Though I do get sad when ever I look through books like this and see all the various, blades, pommels etc, for I always dream of the day when a game lets me make my own sword by sticking various types together.

This is not the first time for Ulfr. And he have so my post there, but it didn't help him as i see. So i have no patience for him.

"Though I do get sad when ever I look through books like this and see all the various, blades, pommels etc, for I always dream of the day when a game lets me make my own sword by sticking various types together." Sticking various types tpgether?... you can not do this.
 
Helge said:
YourStepDad said:
Not necessarily.

Brytenwalda has a very similar helmet and it looks gorgeous. Might look it up and post a screenshot here.

Do it please.

Bah, it looks more Celtic than I remember, but still, it looks gorgeous, even with the back of the head being bald for the wearer. Minus the decorations, those helmets are of similar shape. Not proposing for this one to be borrowed from Brytenwalda. Just saying a similar one would work in Vikingr. :razz:

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Æthelwulf

Master Knight
M&BWBWF&SNW
Helge said:
Sticking various types tpgether?... you can not do this.

Well you can because it would be a game. I'm not saying that I would customise my sword during the action like you would attach a scope to a gun rail, I'm not saying you would run around sticking this type blade onto a so and so hilt then take a fancy to this quillon I picked up off this chaps sword, remove it and plonk it on mine in real time or after a battle. No that is silly.

But in a persistent game which would allow me to customise my kit, it would represent me wandering down to the local blacksmith, dropping a bag of silver in his hand and saying "make this, like this". Blade, tang, pommel, hilt and all. In a game where you rank and grow wealthy and can then afford the nice more ornate work on your sword and commission shiny new blades. That is what I would like.
 

Helge

Sergeant at Arms
Æthelwulf said:
Helge said:
Sticking various types tpgether?... you can not do this.

Well you can because it would be a game. I'm not saying that I would customise my sword during the action like you would attach a scope to a gun rail, I'm not saying you would run around sticking this type blade onto a so and so hilt then take a fancy to this quillon I picked up off this chaps sword, remove it and plonk it on mine in real time or after a battle. No that is silly.

But in a persistent game which would allow me to customise my kit, it would represent me wandering down to the local blacksmith, dropping a bag of silver in his hand and saying "make this, like this". Blade, tang, pommel, hilt and all. In a game where you rank and grow wealthy and can then afford the nice more ornate work on your sword and commission shiny new blades. That is what I would like.

You missed the point.
 

UlfrTheMighty

Sergeant Knight at Arms
M&BWBWF&SNW
MORE TUNICS, HATS FOR ALL FACTIONS!


more Tunics! some with capes, some with short arms and diffrent colors and patterns.

(feel free too corect me if something is wrong :wink:)

Vikingar
Tunics
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viking-tunic-clothing.jpg
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images
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MeCape.jpg
Hats
thora-s---basic-viking-hat_2.jpg
woolen-hat-barbarian_3.jpg
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Rus:
Tunics
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west+norse+clothing.jpg
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Hats
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wolin%20foto%20gallery%206%5B1%5D.jpg
hat-with-embroidery-from-isle-of-man-cz-3.jpg
hat-with-embroidery-from-isle-of-man-cz-3%5B1%5D.jpg


Engle
Tunics
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i didnt find much for the Godil and Engle. but this is not done yet

EDIT:


Normanz
Tunics
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norman_tunic_footman_1.jpg
woolen-tunic-norman.jpg
medieval-tunic-norman.jpg
parameter
Hats
non as of yet
 
Helge said:
You missed the point.
This, frankly, is the problem. You don't explain. You don't list or link sources. You don't inform. You just write a few words and think that that is that. How, in your opinion, has Æthelwulf missed the point? Explain, talk, discuss, that's what a forum is for! If it's something covered in your thread then quote it and link it.

There isn't anything wrong with Æthelwulf's suggestion or line of thought. We have examples of weapons with blades made in one place and furniture placed on them elsewhere - such as the Wheeler's Type VI, Peterson Type Z found at Wandsworth. We also have finds of furniture found seperate from weapons, such as the rather lovely copper-alloy Saxon lower sword guard from Exeter. We know the people of the time were resourceful and recycled items or put them to new uses, especially with iron or metal items - iron was not cheap! It would not be beyond the skill of a smith to knock the rivets off of the furniture of one weapon with a broken/shattered/bent blade and put them on to a different blade, modifying them to fit if needs be. The important thing is we don't have enough finds to say this was never done and in the few we have there are examples of it having been done. When these sorts of sensible, practical and logical suggestions come up they should be matched to sources to see if there is a reasonable enough argument against it, and if there is an argument against it we have to prove it with primary sources, not the other way round.

[source of finds; Logan Thompson - Ancient Weapons in Britain]
 
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