[Suggestion] Option to set shields to default team colors for everyone.

[SteveO]

I think there should be an option for people to set the colors to default team colors on their side. 

The selection of custom shields is cool and all but makes it hell to tell who's on your team.  I used to be able to tell at a glance by looking at their shield who was on my team, but now everyone's got differing colors and it's damn hard, especially in the fray, to tell who's who.  I know my teammates have a dot, but the dot isn't always readily visible.


This would only be a client side change.  If people want to keep their pretty colors more power to them, but I'd rather have everyone uniform so I can tell what the hell is going on.

 

[silentdawn]

This would be a good server option to add.

For the record I don't see why its an issue but that could be because of all the fps games I have played. When the difference between friend and foe is a small difference in camo you learn to identify your targets a lot better. Because of such they have found playing most fps games improve your sight.

 

[SteveO]

In most FPS games you're not tearing around the field (cav) or huddled together in one mass (infantry). 

And everyone looks some what different and uniform in some way (IE terrorists in CS all have very identifiable clothing, same for CTs), but here you can have two people on opposite teams colored the same.

 

[Lord Rich]

You just need to look for the floating team symbol above their heads rather than at the shield heraldry. Anyway what did you do about players who had no shield before custom heraldry was added ? Isnt that the same thing.

Cant say I have had any trouble with this and native can also have many different banners on one team without problem.

 

[Yoshi Murasaki]

I had problem with this until I noticed only my allies have that circle above their head.

I don't mind if there's a client option to make shields look the same, but few enemies looking similar to your allies is quite historical in my opinion.

And everyone looks some what different and uniform in some way (IE terrorists in CS all have very identifiable clothing, same for CTs), but here you can have two people on opposite teams colored the same.

Not entirely true, there is one uniform that I always used to take, because it was very similiar to the uniform enemies had. And occasionally they would not recognize me instantly and it gave me faster reaction time.

 

[SteveO]

You just need to look for the floating team symbol above their heads rather than at the shield heraldry.

The shield is more readily available to look at and is drawn from a further distance (and more readily seen) than the little dot.  Also the colorful dots tend to blend in with grass and sky now.

Anyway what did you do about players who had no shield before custom heraldry was added ? Isnt that the same thing.

Well that's one thing that two handers had going for them: they weren't as easily recognized.  I just kept a wide berth until the dot above their head drew in.  If it was missing, then I attacked. 

But most two handed users had some kind of shield on their back as well, so they were still easily identified. 

 

[Teala]

What about people like me that do not play with the floaty emblem thing above players heads(you do realize many people who buy and play will not wish to see that floaty emblem - right?) ?  I for one found it extremely difficult to tell who was on whose side at times when the enemy can pick up shields off fallen friends.  There is no way to tell a Swadian from a Nord if that Swadian picks up a Nord shield.  When I was playing one night all these Swadians came running up behind us and we were like "Oh we have reinforcements cool."  No they weren't.  They were Swadians carrying Nord shields...caught us completely off guard.  Though I commend them on the tactic, it was brilliantly played...it got old after a bit because when they began charging us and we got into melee range it became impossible to tell friend from foe...so something needs to be done.  Either make it so when the enemy picks up a shield it turns into a shield of their type or give us the option to turn off shield emblems and show the opposing sides faction emblem on their shield.

 

[EdwardWellcraft]

Am I the only one who can tell the difference between friend and foe based upon weapons and subtle variations in armor? Not to mention their location relative to you and relative to other allies.

 

[SockMonkeh]

Am I the only one who can tell the difference between friend and foe based upon weapons and subtle variations in armor? Not to mention their location relative to you and relative to other allies.

It's mainly an issue with cavalry.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

I think there should be an option for people to set the colors to default team colors on their side. 

The selection of custom shields is cool and all but makes it hell to tell who's on your team.  I used to be able to tell at a glance by looking at their shield who was on my team, but now everyone's got differing colors and it's damn hard, especially in the fray, to tell who's who.  I know my teammates have a dot, but the dot isn't always readily visible.


This would only be a client side change.  If people want to keep their pretty colors more power to them, but I'd rather have everyone uniform so I can tell what the hell is going on.

Agreed, as a client side option this would be excellent imo

 

[SteveO]

Am I the only one who can tell the difference between friend and foe based upon weapons and subtle variations in armor? Not to mention their location relative to you and relative to other allies.

People can pick up whatever weapons they want for the most part, and subtle variations in armor is not what I look for nor is it readily distinguishable (subtle, being the key word). 

Location relative to other allies is about the only useful thing that allows for quick identification at the moment.

 

[ScientiaExcelsa]

This is perfect.

 

[Phallas]

OK counter-strike was a bad example, The most repetitive fps game ever!

ONTOP ON!

come on you cannot tell the difference between a Swadian and a kherjit?
A simple glance at the weps and shields is enough to tell which faction is which, not to mention the unique helmets.

Although some choose not too wear their garments. these should be forced.
Also is it realistic to say that in reality the only way of picking out enemies from distance, is their positions.
The banners are a great idea, i don't think i would feel the same about them if i thought people could turn them to default.

 

[SteveO]

A Swadian and a Khergit are obvious.  A Swadian and a Vaegir are not obvious.  A Rhodok and a Swadian carrying a Rhodok shield is not obvious either. 

Also is it realistic to say that in reality the only way of picking out enemies from distance, is their positions.

They still had uniforms to a degree.  Marched as units as well, and shields were colored for their lords. 

There's none of that here.  Everyone more or less has a different colored shield and enemies can have the same shield.  If we're going to argue realism, then those with same colored shields should be on the same side. 

 

[EdwardWellcraft]

A Swadian and a Khergit are obvious.  A Swadian and a Vaegir are not obvious.  A Rhodok and a Swadian carrying a Rhodok shield is not obvious either. 

Also is it realistic to say that in reality the only way of picking out enemies from distance, is their positions.

They still had uniforms to a degree.  Marched as units as well, and shields were colored for their lords. 

There's none of that here.  Everyone more or less has a different colored shield and enemies can have the same shield.  If we're going to argue realism, then those with same colored shields should be on the same side.

Rhodoks are in green or rags. Swadians are in red and nice armors. Vaegirs are in the white or brown leathers. Nords are blue or good leather. Khergits are on horses (lol).

More importantly, allies are running away from the spawn point, enemies are running towards it, and the allies you do recognize will like be engaging the enemy, and enemies to do recognize will be engaging allies.

If you are really having a big problem identifying targets, then you are really having a big problem. I only oppose this as it sort of makes custom heraldry pretty pointless, if people aren't going to see it anyways.

 

[ScientiaExcelsa]

If you are really having a big problem identifying targets, then you are really having a big problem. I only oppose this as it sort of makes custom heraldry pretty pointless, if people aren't going to see it anyways.

Erm, he wants it to be a personal option.  So that the people who are getting confused can see default colors, and everyone else can enjoy their personal heraldry.

 

[EdwardWellcraft]

If you are really having a big problem identifying targets, then you are really having a big problem. I only oppose this as it sort of makes custom heraldry pretty pointless, if people aren't going to see it anyways.

Erm, he wants it to be a personal option.  So that the people who are getting confused can see default colors, and everyone else can enjoy their personal heraldry.

But I want everyone to see all of the beautiful heraldry 

No really though, I don't particularly care, so if the devs want to I say go for it.

 

[SteveO]

More importantly, allies are running away from the spawn point, enemies are running towards it, and the allies you do recognize will like be engaging the enemy, and enemies to do recognize will be engaging allies.

Again this is assuming the two shields aren't colored the same, the dot is visible (turned on, even), and that their armors aren't similar.

But rarely do people buy the more advanced ("shiny") armors due to cost/effectiveness ratio not being worthwhile and most of the middle armors (except the Aketon) are very similar looking with varying shades of....brown.  Totally unique and readily distinguishable.  And this is even assuming they're wearing armor.