[SUBMOD] Tweaking PoP 3.7 (UPD #45, 2016-12-17, 04:34 PM)

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Go_Khla_Yeh

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Hi Leonion,

Is it possible to add the tweak (an option of dialog) to force the patrol of my own village to give me all its prisonners? (But not in walled fief)

If not what become of these prisoners?


Thank you for all your previous work.
 

Go_Khla_Yeh

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Leonion said:
It's possible but currently I'm not tweaking anything.
Too bad, I just wanted to get their prisoners back. Thank you for answering. But did you completely stop the tweaks?  :ohdear:
 

Leonion

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Currently I'm busy working on Perisno.
I didn't even find time to play PoP 3.8.4, though I wanted to.
 

softgunforever

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this might be a good place to ask this, do you happen to know what text i have to edit and which numbers to decrease building time on town/village upgrades? in the past i just used TweakMB, but that program is so outdated by now, most of the funtions in it does not work witht he newest version of PoP.
 

The Lord7

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I have a tweak for version 3.8.4 I tested myself and it works.
change the relation & honor when you choose to free a defeated lord.
In conversation.txt find the following.(always make a backup before editing!!!)
You_have_fought_well._You_are_free_to_go.  356  3 1 3 936748722493063440 144115188075855892 2 1 2 936748722493063447 1 1 6 936748722493063665 13 360287970189639680 -1 144115188075855892 144115188075855894 NO_VOICEOVER
the red number represent relation change with this lord.
the blue number represent honor you get.
change them to the value you like.
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is there somebody can tell me how to change the +relation with a lord when you grant him a fief? (when you are king of course)
 

Egaldor

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Does the tweak to change my wife clothes still works or it will damage my savefile in sneaky ways?
 
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Looking for a tweak, enabling you to use the Knighthood Order Stronghold like a camp (to drop of troops and prisoners, man them yourself as if it would belong to you)

Step 2 would involve you being able to be attacked by factions who are at war with you even if your not a monarch.
 

Ralyks18

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Elensil the Numenorean said:
Looking for a tweak, enabling you to use the Knighthood Order Stronghold like a camp (to drop of troops and prisoners, man them yourself as if it would belong to you)

Step 2 would involve you being able to be attacked by factions who are at war with you even if your not a monarch.
Thats not a tweak, thats a whole new feature. Its like asking here that a minor faction can not only sack a city, but take it.

Tweaks may happen, but what you suggested and my example are both features, with the lack of a advanced coder (konrad did some great stuff tho, but not hard code), that won't happen. Its not a simple as tweaking a number or adding a new line of text.
 
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Ralyks said:
Elensil the Numenorean said:
Looking for a tweak, enabling you to use the Knighthood Order Stronghold like a camp (to drop of troops and prisoners, man them yourself as if it would belong to you)

Step 2 would involve you being able to be attacked by factions who are at war with you even if your not a monarch.
Thats not a tweak, thats a whole new feature. Its like asking here that a minor faction can not only sack a city, but take it.

Tweaks may happen, but what you suggested and my example are both features, with the lack of a advanced coder (konrad did some great stuff tho, but not hard code), that won't happen. Its not a simple as tweaking a number or adding a new line of text.
I agree with you on step 2.

Step one though is actually tweakable. Similar to the cheat tweaking where you give yourself the fief of some other lord, which is cheating i know.

BUT I feel theres a design error that after the Grandmaster quest you cant do much with the Stronghold... Its supposed to be a HQ for your order aka. you. Since your the Orders Leader.

Meaning theres supposed to be a way to "give" the stronghold/fief after the quest is finished to you.  I remember a fella who did the tweaking with the Noldor town. I think it was Andy years ag when occult meddling aka tweaking was frowned upon.

If someone could point me to the ID of the randomly generated Stronghold fief I might be able to "tweak" it. I still dunno if I will be able to do much but its a start.
Ralyks, theres nothing that cannot be done. Sure the code is not open for public use. But you can "guess" what code does what and then apply and do trial and error testing until its working.


Unless the mods ofc. would point me into the right occult direction :grin:

Edit: I will try the first attempt, tweaking via Exporting save & editing it.
http://www.moddb.com/games/mount-blade-warband/downloads/mount-blade-savegame-editor-converter
 

BananaFruit

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Elensil the Numenorean said:
Looking for a tweak, enabling you to use the Knighthood Order Stronghold like a camp (to drop of troops and prisoners, man them yourself as if it would belong to you)

Step 2 would involve you being able to be attacked by factions who are at war with you even if your not a monarch.
Elensil the Numenorean said:
Step one though is actually tweakable.
You are right, as I have shown a few months back.

To implement, open menus.txt and replace the lines 297 - 298 with

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menu_stronghold 4352 {s4} none 13 2202 1 144115188075856141 4 0 200 1 504403158265495619 546 3 504403158265495619 11 4 2320 2 4 1585267068834416550 5 0 546 3 504403158265495619 11 6 31 2 144115188075857203 0 2320 2 4 1585267068834416551 5 0 2320 2 4 1585267068834416552 3 0 2031 1 1441151880758558802 16
 mno_castle_castle  1 31 2 1 0  Go_to_the_castle.  0  .  mno_join_tournament  1 31 2 1 0  Join_the_Order_tournament.  0  .  mno_town_castle  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Go_to_the_Order_castle_hall.  2 2133 2 144115188075856215 1 1 2 936748722493063467 144115188075856141  Door_to_the_castle  mno_town_center  1 31 2 1 0  Take_a_walk_around_the_streets.  0  .  mno_town_tavern  1 31 2 1 0  Visit_the_tavern.  0  .  mno_town_merchant  1 31 2 1 0  Speak_with_the_merchant.  0  .  mno_town_arena  1 31 2 1 0  Enter_the_arena.  0  .  mno_town_dungeon  1 31 2 1 0  Never:_Enter_the_prison.  0  .  mno_castle_inspect  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Take_a_walk_around_the_courtyard.  38 4 0 2133 2 144115188075856068 0 2133 2 144115188075856122 0 521 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856141 10 1261 1 1224979098644774912 1262 0 2133 2 1224979098644774913 40 1650 2 1224979098644774914 144115188075856278 6 3 1224979098644774915 0 1224979098644774914 2147483678 2 1224979098644774913 47 1652 3 1224979098644774916 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 2147485155 1 1224979098644774916 1653 3 1224979098644774917 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 1654 3 1224979098644774918 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 2106 2 1224979098644774917 1224979098644774918 32 2 1224979098644774917 0 1655 3 1224979098644774919 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 1263 3 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774919 2105 2 1224979098644774913 1 3 0 4 0 31 2 144115188075856215 0 2133 2 144115188075856215 1 3 0 1912 1 1 2133 2 1224979098644774920 256 1911 1 792633534417207316 1940 3 792633534417207316 0 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 1 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 2 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 3 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 4 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 5 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 6 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 7 1224979098644774920 1910 1 1224979098644774912 2048 0 3 0  To_the_castle_courtyard.  mno_town_enterprise  1 31 2 1 0  Visit_your_enterprise.  0  .  mno_visit_lady  1 31 2 1 0  Attempt_to_visit_a_lady.  0  .  mno_trade_with_merchants  1 31 2 1 0  Go_to_the_marketplace.  0  .  mno_castle_attack  3 2147485156 1 360287970189639680 200 1 504403158265495619 546 3 504403158265495619 11 4  Launch_the_assault!  1 2060 1 864691128455135380  .  mno_castle_wait  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Rest_here_for_some_time.  5 2133 2 144115188075856033 144115188075856141 2133 2 144115188075856245 144115188075856141 2133 2 144115188075856248 -1 1031 3 168 5 0 2040 0  .  mno_castle_wait  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Manage_the_garrison.  1 2043 1 1  .  mno_town_leave  0  Leave.  2 2133 2 144115188075856069 0 2040 1 0  Leave_Area.
Keep in mind though that no wages are paid for troops in the Order stronghold so this is quite an exploit.
 

Ralyks18

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BananaFruit said:
Elensil the Numenorean said:
Looking for a tweak, enabling you to use the Knighthood Order Stronghold like a camp (to drop of troops and prisoners, man them yourself as if it would belong to you)

Step 2 would involve you being able to be attacked by factions who are at war with you even if your not a monarch.
Elensil the Numenorean said:
Step one though is actually tweakable.
You are right, as I have shown a few months back.

To implement, open menus.txt and replace the lines 297 - 298 with

Code:
menu_stronghold 4352 {s4} none 13 2202 1 144115188075856141 4 0 200 1 504403158265495619 546 3 504403158265495619 11 4 2320 2 4 1585267068834416550 5 0 546 3 504403158265495619 11 6 31 2 144115188075857203 0 2320 2 4 1585267068834416551 5 0 2320 2 4 1585267068834416552 3 0 2031 1 1441151880758558802 16
 mno_castle_castle  1 31 2 1 0  Go_to_the_castle.  0  .  mno_join_tournament  1 31 2 1 0  Join_the_Order_tournament.  0  .  mno_town_castle  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Go_to_the_Order_castle_hall.  2 2133 2 144115188075856215 1 1 2 936748722493063467 144115188075856141  Door_to_the_castle  mno_town_center  1 31 2 1 0  Take_a_walk_around_the_streets.  0  .  mno_town_tavern  1 31 2 1 0  Visit_the_tavern.  0  .  mno_town_merchant  1 31 2 1 0  Speak_with_the_merchant.  0  .  mno_town_arena  1 31 2 1 0  Enter_the_arena.  0  .  mno_town_dungeon  1 31 2 1 0  Never:_Enter_the_prison.  0  .  mno_castle_inspect  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Take_a_walk_around_the_courtyard.  38 4 0 2133 2 144115188075856068 0 2133 2 144115188075856122 0 521 3 1224979098644774912 144115188075856141 10 1261 1 1224979098644774912 1262 0 2133 2 1224979098644774913 40 1650 2 1224979098644774914 144115188075856278 6 3 1224979098644774915 0 1224979098644774914 2147483678 2 1224979098644774913 47 1652 3 1224979098644774916 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 2147485155 1 1224979098644774916 1653 3 1224979098644774917 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 1654 3 1224979098644774918 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 2106 2 1224979098644774917 1224979098644774918 32 2 1224979098644774917 0 1655 3 1224979098644774919 144115188075856278 1224979098644774915 1263 3 1224979098644774913 1224979098644774916 1224979098644774919 2105 2 1224979098644774913 1 3 0 4 0 31 2 144115188075856215 0 2133 2 144115188075856215 1 3 0 1912 1 1 2133 2 1224979098644774920 256 1911 1 792633534417207316 1940 3 792633534417207316 0 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 1 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 2 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 3 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 4 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 5 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 6 1224979098644774920 1940 3 792633534417207316 7 1224979098644774920 1910 1 1224979098644774912 2048 0 3 0  To_the_castle_courtyard.  mno_town_enterprise  1 31 2 1 0  Visit_your_enterprise.  0  .  mno_visit_lady  1 31 2 1 0  Attempt_to_visit_a_lady.  0  .  mno_trade_with_merchants  1 31 2 1 0  Go_to_the_marketplace.  0  .  mno_castle_attack  3 2147485156 1 360287970189639680 200 1 504403158265495619 546 3 504403158265495619 11 4  Launch_the_assault!  1 2060 1 864691128455135380  .  mno_castle_wait  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Rest_here_for_some_time.  5 2133 2 144115188075856033 144115188075856141 2133 2 144115188075856245 144115188075856141 2133 2 144115188075856248 -1 1031 3 168 5 0 2040 0  .  mno_castle_wait  1 566 3 504403158265495619 11 5  Manage_the_garrison.  1 2043 1 1  .  mno_town_leave  0  Leave.  2 2133 2 144115188075856069 0 2040 1 0  Leave_Area.
Keep in mind though that no wages are paid for troops in the Order stronghold so this is quite an exploit.
o_O you're like the Leonion of 3.8. Kudos for that

But you'll get all the troops and prisoners that the stronghold comes with? Wow, thats big. Not having to pay wages is another big exploit as well  :iamamoron:
 

Ethreon

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These are great!

If you ever decide to come back, would you consider possible to tweak in a new upgrade to the KO's list - increasing quiver size?
 

Leonion

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Ethreon said:
These are great!

If you ever decide to come back, would you consider possible to tweak in a new upgrade to the KO's list - increasing quiver size?
You can edit quivers with Morgh's editor.
 

madboy

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Can you make a tweak to increase amount of money with tradres in towns? Please :smile: ?
 
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