Struge. GREAT BALANCE!!!

[Juliw]

I've mentioned this from day 1. In custom battle they are the weakest nation.. on every category.

in the campaign they are weak because of the following things:
- weak or wrong skill setup (for example druzhinik got 160 bow skill and 60 polearm.. they dont have bows and polearm is their main weapon....) Ulfhander is 2H main, but got 80 in 2h while they got 130 in pole, which again they dont have. They are a tier 5 unit with no armor but have athletics 130 instead of running OP Fast and attacking fast like crazy they are without doubt the worst tier 5 unit in game. (For comparison battanian Fian got 160 athletics and full armor) IMO the ulfhednar or berzerkers should run crazy fast and attack crazy fast as well. It shouldn't be possible to 1 v1 a berzerker, however in my campaign they get easily mowed down by a tier 2-3 unit as if they are a simple recruit. Also because they have no armor they should make zig zag moves with high run speed to have at least some advantages.

- weak gear Tier 5 units severely outclassed in armor compared to other nations, even the Khuzaits which should IMO be mainly light armor have more heavy armor (and even more heavy infantry) than Sturgia (which is supposed to be main heavy infantry class. (Guess the developers really hate the Sturgians..)
- Compared to Battanians and Khuzaits they got to run long distances to replenish... The Khuzaits which should be nomads (Few cities spread across vast distances) got more total fiefs (49 villages,castles, towns) than the sturgians,, which are a settled nation. And all their villages are tightly packed together. Khuzaits got more fiefs in 65% of the landmass the Sturgians got.
- Horses cost no food and can outrun AI lords in wars, resulting in Khuzaits ganking AI lords with 500 vs 100-150 non stop.
- snow doesn't give attrition to enemies, nor does it slow down units...

All in all the Sturgians are by far the weakest faction in the game.. and only by heavy intervention of the player do they survive more than 2 years ingame.

Yea its really frustrating when you want to play as them. I used the Bannerlord Tweaks mod to double the amount of time it takes to build siege camps/weapons, to actually allow the Sturgian armies time to react and travel across their territory before losing a handful of settlements. It had a massive effect and the snowballing stopped immediately. I can recommend it if you're trying to get a sustainable game going as Sturgia.

 

[vrihedd]

Thanks. Very helpful mod)

 

[Cri11e]

Sturgians are supposed to have the best infantry tho?
Khuzait have best cav archers.
vlandia best cav chargers.
aserai best bow archers.

etc etc etc

Wasn't this what Lezalit in warband was speaking of. Each faction their own strength and weakness, but together unbeatable.

 

[TomaSkTemplar]

vrihedd is some sort of russian. You dont win others, you just win lol.

Kyjev Rus ... sure there is bias from westerners that cry from their antislav/sloven racism, but I got used to it and it is funny, westerners think themselves to be uber obviously. The thing with vikings like being cool but the 'eastern europeans' uncool lol. Western racism and hypocrisy at its finest.

custom battles are not well made and Strugy/sturgy or whatever, or Zdrugi have lots of their troops not well made. T4 infantry is bad, T3 ? I dont remember, archers are sheet too. Družinnik ? Archery skill and no 'arch' to shoot from. Tier 2 woodsmen, javelins and nothing ... but there are say vland footmen, with sword and no shield whatsoever. ...

 

[Amon Morell]

The Sturgians are unbalanced, but mine main problem is that the Nevryansk Castle with the settlements Dnin and Nevyansk are to far away from the other Sturgian Castles and Cities.
There should be atleast a land conection from the Nevryansk Castle to the settlement Korsyas on the other side of the sea.

 

[imgran]

The Sturgians are broken because spear infantry is broken. Most of ther faction infantry have spears and other weapons and will use literally anything but a spear. Sturgian line infantry are forced to use the broken spear mechanics and it shows.

 

[durbal]

The Sturgians are unbalanced, but mine main problem is that the Nevryansk Castle with the settlements Dnin and Nevyansk are to far away from the other Sturgian Castles and Cities.
There should be atleast a land conection from the Nevryansk Castle to the settlement Korsyas on the other side of the sea.

That would probably allow Vlandia to steamroll them even harder.

 

[Androme1]

I will shamelessly shill my thread here, since there seems to be some sort of consensus that Sturgia is performing horribly:

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/sturgia-worst-performing-faction-due-to-having-the-worst-troop-tree-liege-ai-economy-and-geography.414479/

I believe I've done a good job of summarizing all of Sturgias problems (but do please post a comment if you think I've missed anything), please support my thread so the thread can catch the attention of the developers!

 

[Midnitewolf]

Yeah Sturgia is in a bad place at the moment. There are without a doubt the weakest faction. I would also say the Aserai feel really weak as well. However due to the fact the don't fight much and I don't think many people play them, I just don't think people have realized how weak the Aserai really are. They actually might be worse off than the Stugians.

Now as to which faction is the most powerful, that goes to Battania. When I have to go up against them, It doesn't matter if it is a field battle or a siege, either way, they always beat the snot out of my troops inflicting double, sometime triple casualties than any other faction. I think a lot of that has to do with their archers but even their infantry and cavalry are tough.

 

[MHLViking]

I feel like when I controll a Sturgian army with use of shield wall and some archers, then gameplay is ok. I feel like I can do well with them, but when AI controll them then there is no easier armys to beat then the Sturgian army.

Atleast that is how I feel it, but maybe im doing just as bad with Sturgia just my mind does not want to admit it when I controll them...