Strong suggest about two hand sword... (read please)

[Eagle114th]

I knew something is definely missing here, so here is my strong suggetion to you. At once when you reached strength of 20 or beyond, you should be able to use two handed sword as single handed, since you would become an incredible barbaric and powerful warrior with monsterous strength of arm. For example, If I have strength of 20 to 25, while becoming pure legendary Berserker warrior, I should be able to use two handed sword or heavy axe as single hand while having shield with me, while crushing upon enemy without mercy!

However, it should be able to be achieved on specific conditions, lets say when I get strength of 20 to 25, with agile of 15 to 20, and thats when I'd unlock the abilities to use two handed weapon as single hand weapon.

That is what have been missing in this Mount and Blade!


Eagle out...

 

[The Pope]

I prefer two handed swords be two handed. Ludicrously large swords being swung around as if they don't weigh anything just looks far too silly for my tastes. If you let someone swing a sledgehammer with one handed, it makes it look like the head is made of foam.

 

[Kevar]

Yeah, it would look too silly. Plus it would be very impractical. If you become that good with a sword, why even need the shield?

 

[Arathiel]

arrows.

 

[Worbah]

If you have a power strike of 5 or greater, or a strenght of 16 or something, you should be able to use the bastard sword in one hand.

 

[The Pope]

I'd agree for the bastard sword. It should have a speed penalty though, as it would still be a lot harder to swing than a normal sword.

 

[Kniggit]

You guys ever notice the broadsword had a two handed hilt? so in a way, we already wield 2 handers....

 

[bewing77]

Bastard swords where also called one and a half hand swords since they where meant to be used with either one or two hands. Most one handed weapons could be used with two hands. Maybe there should be a speed and/or damage bonus if you use a one handed weapon with two hands? But I don't think greatswords should be useable with one hand.

 

[EppuTheHeppu]

It's not very practical to use great swords in one hand, they are cumbersome, clumsier, and slower to use. Not to mention that they were rarely used with one hand (in an effective way).

Some of those two handed swords (and some weapons) could be used with one hand, but they should have huge speed penalty (if possible, should "compare" original weapon speed+strength+weapon handling:Y=X)

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Axes could have somekind of penalty for blocking as they are not so good parrying weapons (wooden shaft, though some were made of various metals), and few days ago, in the arena, I just hate that when one of those NPC fighters runbackwards with a bow or lance, need to drive them into a corner to hold them still...

And for that case, IF you could damage enemy weapon (made of wood) like all spear-type polearms when they try to thrust them towards you... (don't know at all how hard that would be to implement into a game...)

Also could it be possible if you block too many times in one battle, your weapon could get damaged.

 

[Skyrage]

I'd only agree with this idea for the bastard sword...as it COULD be used with one hand as well, if you were strong enough for it and knew what you were doing...but there'd of course have to be requirements in order to wield it with one hand.

 

[Balor]

Well, greatswords were never intended to be used with one hand - if even you are, somehow, strong enough to use them with one hand (I'd say, not past 20, but past 30 STR ) - it will mess up their balance.
Bastards - perhaps. But double STR reqs for this - after all, bastard swords are NOT intended to be used with one hand too. Possible, but not feasible.
Try handling one of them in RL .

 

[Ilex]

Well all great swords weren't that heavy. Of course some were. Check this link: http://www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html. It says that: "Although large, measuring 60-70 in/150-175 cm overall, it was not as hefty as it looked, weighing something of the order of 5-8 lbs/2.3-3.6 kg." Of course they were never meant to be wieldid with 1 hand and thus are not good as 1 handed swords.

 

[alesch]

The problem with using a sword meant for two hands, in one hand is almost never the weight, it's also the balance of the weapon. Two handed weapons have a different center of gravity than one handed weapons, which would make it very awkward to use them in one hand.

 

[Ilex]

Yeap. And if one swinged a twohanded sword with one's one hand, one would not deliver so much damage as one would deliver if one was wielding onehanded sword, for one could not put some much strenght in one's blow. Or that is how I see it.

 

[KnZ]

Well, you can hold a twohander in one had, but it won't be effective. And this is not a matter of strength (I doubt that a hero w/ 20 STR would have problems in swinging some well-balanced 3kg metal piece). The main advantage of a two-hander is (no, not the damage... ) its length, which allows you to hold your enemy away. But when you use two-handed grip, your fighting distance decreases significantly (btw, and your mobility too), and when you practise, you get used to this distance, and you can use it. When you take your two-hander with one hand, your fighting distance increases much. That is bad, and I'll explain why. For example, you're making a low swing (aiming at your enemy's legs), and move your sword so that it won't get stuck in earth. You don't make exact calculations, this your inner distance sense that helps you to do that. And if your sword reach is longer, you will certainly hit nothing but earth, and you'll spend precious time extracting your blade from mud.

Well, that was theory) Don't take it serious, though - this is just how it is in RL, and RL and the game are different things.

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One more thing - two-handers are two-handed to make it comfortable to swing such a long blade, and this means that it would be uncomfortable for you to hold it in one hand. This means a bit decreased damage, strongly decreased speed and many other thing that couldn't be described with the game engine...

 

[Tarrak]

I support the usage of Bastard Swords with one hand at a some point, say a combination of strength and agility, strength fo the power needed, agility for the technical ability, possibly even a Power Strike requirement (like bows). But it must be feasable to use it. The Bastard is the weakest twohanded sword, no need to make it weaker, make this the bonus for focusing on actually being able to use it like that.