I don't get what Archonsod has to do with anything.
Thank you, glad that someone sees my genius. Though I'm a bit embarrassed about how quickly I blew up at Wheem back in 2014. Though he was an insufferable ****.Flin Flon said:Jhessail was right about everything.
Clearly you didn't understand the dog whistling that Anthropoid was doing. He couldn't post actual child pornography, so he posted an anime picture of a clearly underage girl, as an comment to his earlier "wish" that both he and his wife could be transformed to 9 year old physically.kurczak said:I don't get either post.
Here's a genuine question: Do you think that we should, ideologically combat socialists and communists with any less diligence than fashy types, in view of that their ideas can be equally harmful?Jhessail said:
Flin Flon said:
Well, statistically speaking, Marxists are more harmful, most of the time. As a general rule, I think it would be fair to shut down any group that advocates and actively calls for mass violence of any kind. Of which Fascists and Marxists both endorse, in different ways. But at the same time, both groups don't represent any real political threat unless the existing political system is totally incompetent. So I don't really see much point in shutting down either, really.Flin Flon said:
Most Western countries have no explicit legal provisions against the formation of Fascist parties/movements. Even then, Fascism hasn't gained any real foothold at all, anywhere. It floats about in low single-digit % support almost all of the time, and has not represented any real threat to the continuation of polities in their countries. And that's because the emergence of Fascists as a significant political force has always followed the exact same set of prerequisite conditions: Economic collapse/hardship catalysing the emergence of Radical Socialists (generally of International persuasion, such as Marxists) to mainstream power. Fascists emerge as the radical counter-position to the Radical Socialists, and both sides grow by playing off each other, and by picking the disaffected from the political "center". What happened in the financial crisis in Greece is a good example of how it starts, but the downward spiral was stopped by the significant money inflows by the EU into the Greek financial system that prevented a total economic collapse.NUQAR'S Kentucky "Nuqar" James XXL said:Fascism is, by every meaningful definition, an anti-liberal anti-democracy reactionary movement which unites corporatism with political and ethnic violence. It's harmful to any liberal democracy and any clearly fascist party (post-1945) gets banned almost instantly.
That definition is specifically Marxist. There are socialists all over the political spectrum, even right-wing socialists(although left-wing socialists refuse to admit it almost all of the time), and while many are anti-markets, many aren't. We've all fallen into this way of thinking that state-organized economics is somehow socialist and market economics is capitalist, but neither are really the case. One can use markets and be anti-capitalist. One can use the state as an economic entity and be anti-socialist.Flin Flon said:As far as I know, among other things, socialism is the elimination of the free market; that being the most concerning part (whereas social democracy is still capitalistic). Things like market socialism exist but are, apparently, equally terrible.
I don't think it's possible to have a one-size-fits-all policy in these regards. As I stated earlier, a general rule should be that unless there is an explicit call for political violence, little is to be gained from shutting down either, as neither can gain steam unless something is terribly wrong with the status quo. It would be better to spend the time, money, and effort addressing economic shortcomings, and maintaining community health. Any means through which either group can gain traction is taken away from them, then, and as an added benefit; there's no move to the creation of a thought-crime policing state.Do we permit socialists more leeway than fascists in spite of that both have the potential to destroy lives?
Sundeki said:Most Western countries have no explicit legal provisions against the formation of Fascist parties/movements.
Even then, Fascism hasn't gained any real foothold at all, anywhere. It floats about in low single-digit % support almost all of the time