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Is there a way to find out what exactly each of the different options give when first making your character? I find it real annoying rerolling so many times trying to get specific stats and now knowing which thing gave what.
 
Thanks that really did help. My next question however has to be, why do we start off with the same gear no matter what setup we choose? Was it really so hard to leave each class with their own items? I mean idk about you but I play on 100%+ difficulty and it's kinda hard to kill anything with a weak crossbow with low skill and a broken sword since the smallest group is like 25 units. Tourneys aren't exactly easy to win, not that it even matters since we don't have any real money to bet on ourselves anyways >_< It's a bit crazy lol. I know it's not hard to do melee fights until II have 1k gold, then do a tourney and place two back to back 500 bets and win them which will net me ~12k gold. Btw I'm really liking  the additional options for better. Really, I like doing tourneys but endgame 6k reward wasn't really much at all, atleast with this it has a point.

A concern of mine is the chargers... So yeah I made a jouster and got him a nice heavily armored charger.... I then proceeded to try and solo a group of 27 raiders. Started off charging right at them with my lance ready, couched one of them and did utterly insane damage to the other 2-3 that were near the guy I hit. So I put the lance away and just started trampling them back and forth knocking them out.... I started doing this at level 6, 3-4 battles later I was level 13. I mean common now isn't that a bit overpowered? Granted there is that braced spear thing the AI players ALWAYS do and horses don't really have crap for HP but still... Btw my horse has 55 armor, how the hell are they doing damage to it in general?

I added the siege expansion patch to my game as well, it's rather impressive. Much better than the same mundane thing over and over again so props to the coder for that one.
 
Well, starting equipment is starting equipment - you're gonna get rid of it at the first opportunity anyway; is there any point giving you a cracked hunter's bow rather than a crossbow?

The higher tier horses are powerful, but there are plenty of enemies who'll take you out fairly quickly if you keep it up; for example Rhodoks with their spears & halberds and Khergits whom you can't catch on a charger - like everything there are strengths and weaknesses. You're not going to be happy stomping sea raiders and bandits for long anyway. 

I think in this mod you can play it as an all-conquering maniac with all high-tier troops and equipment and have crazy fun (as long as you have the spondulicks), or you can moderate your behaviour and play a game with more realistic conditions, but at the end of the day that's down to your own choices. The nice thing is that you can do either\both with this mod. Money is seldom a problem. But if you want challenges, it's up to you to enforce the conditions you play under.

Yeah, the Siege Expansion pack is mucho cool too  :smile:
 
I was wondering if it's possible to play "Hero" mode in this mod, ie doing as much as possible with as few troops as possible. In Native I pretty much play solo until I have to recruit people (becoming a vassal etc) but in this one, after importing my level 28 and buying some nice gear, I got totally dominated by a Merc Warband, couldn't even kill one of them.

Also is it even worth importing a character? It seems the starting stats for my newly created were not that far off my level 28.

This mod looks amazing but I fear it's a bit too hardcore for a newb like me ^^
 
Buy better gear, a heavy charger horse, and avoid Merc and Steppe Bandits.
Also, beware of pikemen.

bellyfrog said:
Also is it even worth importing a character? It seems the starting stats for my newly created were not that far off my level 28.

Nah. There IS a difference. Especially since lower-level characters can't wear the best armors, can't use the best swords, etc.
 
Nah. There IS a difference. Especially since lower-level characters can't wear the best armors, can't use the best swords, etc.

Yeah, but if you import a lvl 28 or whatever char, it takes you ages to level up, whereas if you start fresh you level up super fast and get better faster from what I can tell? I could be wrong though this is my first day of playing NE.
 
but he has a point ...
i took 79 damage from a paladin's freaking horse
that's WAY too much damage considering i was wearing lordly plate armor (+20/+80/+20 i guess) and some others heavy stuff

btw. i don't play the last patch, but i don't think it has been changed, right

and about the player's char, it's better to start a new one on this mod then importing
a char lvl 20 from NE has better stats then a lvl 20 from native
 
I deal that much on a regular basis with Riding 10 and a Heavy Charger. Against archers, I don't even lower my shield, just block and trample. Being run over by a horse will damn near kill you, no matter what you're wearing, and that's okay by Brock's rules.
 
i know it's pretty damaging ... but, as it is right now in NE, one can run/ride over hundreds of infantry

not even the all mighty god of the trampling horses could do such a thing

and, putting reality aside, it ruins the game a lot

it is just stupid to see a double line of Einherjar(?) knocked down and almost ALL my rangers getting knocked out by just one - ONE - paladin


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excluding the Khergits, i could control all of calradia using : 1) bow 2)arrow 3)arrow 4)arrow ; some 30-40 paladins
just use the bow to kill eventual horses and eventual spearmen "and that's it guys. go get'em! if you feel like, drop your sword - you won't need it "
 
They really are entirely overpowered. I mean I get how you were trying to make them do decent damage when charging to depict a real life horse charge, and dropping their hp to offset the imbalance. But really they kinds screw over the horses. A spear wall would take care of any charge but honestly I can stand using spears >_>
 
I don't share your opinion(s) about horses.
Sure, you could try and solo most of your skirmishes, but then your men would level up very slowly.
Have you met the Dark Knights yet? You'll need Elite units, then.

Most of the time, I don't even charge. I let my men do the work, because I need them to level up.
I only unleash the cavalry when the ennemy makes contact with my INF/ARCH line, then when the ennemy flees in terror, I call my CAV back and patiently wait for my infantry to finish the job.
In peace time, Elite units are systematically stored into my castles.

Because I need a lot of Elite Halleberdier to confront the Dark Cavalry when the time comes.

And I personnally HATE having my horse killed. Heavy Chargers are damn expensive, so I avoid mindlessly charging Infantry...

 
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